I want to join the military

[Xavier434]

Originally posted by: gersson
You mean this?:
http://www.camelspiders.net/la...mel-spider-picture.htm

Haha ya! Those are the bastards!

My buddy also said that out of extreme boredom they would capture these things, put them in a box, and place bets on which would be victorious like cock fights. That was the one and only fun thing he mentioned. He also mentioned troops visiting the infirmary after eggs were laid under their skin while they were asleep.

 

[loup garou]

Originally posted by: gersson
Its funny you mention it cos I already do that the problem is here in Miami everyone is doing it so wages are dirt low. No one pays more than 9 bucks for 10 hour work days and they all like to pay under the table.

Go to New Orleans. There are still tons of roofing/construction jobs (new construction is still thriving although high end real estate market is starting to tank). Lots of good Honduran food if you miss it from roach coaches. And if you're looking for gunplay, violence, and war-torn neighborhoods, take a stroll through Central City.

 

[djheater]

I've heard there's a bonus to sign up OP. You should look into it.

 

[Nebor]

Originally posted by: shocksyde
I'm having trouble understanding why someone would WANT to go to Iraq. I guess that's a P&N thing, though.

I wouldn't go over there for $50k. No way in hell.

I'd go for free. It's a unique situation that we may not see again in our lifetime.

 

[Kwaipie]

Originally posted by: Xavier434

Originally posted by: gersson
You mean this?:
http://www.camelspiders.net/la...mel-spider-picture.htm

Haha ya! Those are the bastards!

My buddy also said that out of extreme boredom they would capture these things, put them in a box, and place bets on which would be victorious like cock fights. That was the one and only fun thing he mentioned. He also mentioned troops visiting the infirmary after eggs were laid under their skin while they were asleep.

shens

 

[Atheus]

What do you get for being a citizen? I lived outside my home country for years and nobody cared if I was a citizen or just a resident or whatever.

 

[Summitdrinker]

also what happens if you go over there and one month later your legs are blown off?

what will happen to ya? get that in writting, good luck with that one

edit: that is get your legs blown off and live

well lets put it this way, if you join the serves go over there and due your time and job, you deserve to be a US citizen. I would respect ya for doing it,......but ???????????? I don't know if I would recommend it

 

[NikolaeVarius]

Watch "Full Metal Jacket" before enlisting

 

[StormRider]

Originally posted by: Quintox
Yeah, I don't think you can be in the US Military unless you are a citizen.

There are lots of non-citizens serving in the US Military now. Some of them have been granted US citizenship after they were killed.

I would rather gersson not do this and hope there are other less dangerous ways for him to become a US citizen.

 

[keird]

I've been in the U.S. Army for a while. During 1994 I remember a roommate that wasn't a U.S. citizen and actually had a green card. It wasn't green though.

If you decide to volunteer for service in the U.S. Army, I think there's an additional $20,000 bonus for quick shippers $40,000 total). Essentially, you would go to basic and AIT most ricky-tic. If you would take some advice, I've got a suggestion or two.

Go Airborne. Get the Airborne option in writing and you'd attend Jump School after AIT. You may decide to make it a career and you'd have wanted to get that school. You would also do well to go to start your career in the 82nd Airborne, but you may be one of the few who really digs the Army and decide to try out for a Ranger Battalion assignment. You might be able to make that choice while you attend jump school. But you must start your career in the Rangers; they hate transplants from other units.

The bottom line is that the Army will keep its obligations specified in your enlistment contract, but you must keep them, as well.

I'm also a medic. If you get a high enough GT score on your ASVAB, check out the Health Care Specialist MOS 68W. It's the best of both worlds; slogging it out with the grunts in the front line units and/or working in air conditioned hospitals with chicks.

 

[Rockinacoustic]

Originally posted by: gersson

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poverty

Ok, thanks for your candor, folks -- Im off for a nice long run

Perhaps not planning to splurge on the '8900GTX' in your sig would be a start

 

[LittleNemoNES]

Originally posted by: Rockinacoustic

Originally posted by: gersson

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poverty

Ok, thanks for your candor, folks -- Im off for a nice long run

Perhaps not planning to splurge on the '8900GTX' in your sig would be a start

haha well, I live with my extended family so we chip in to get some nice things once in a while.

 

[SilthDraeth]

To the OP, and a couple of other people, the military does accept non citizens, and you can gain citizenship this way. I was in basic training with some guys from other countries.

Now to the question, your recruiter should know, or be able to find out for you. But failing that even, the recruiter normally can take you to MEPS (Military Entrance Processing Station). They either fly you down, or drive you there, after you feel out some paperwork for your recruiter. The recruiter sends all that paperwork in, then gets back to you with an answer. He may need more documentation etc from you, or have more papers for you to fill out, or he may come back with a negative answer. Just about everything can be waived though, especially in the Army.

Two year or four year enlistment is ideal, but the Army and any armed forces in the states can recall you back in. You basically sign up for a commitment of 8 years. If you serve 2, then you have 6 years of retainability where they call you, and you have to go back on Active Duty. There is no way around that part of signing up.

But just fill out what your recruiter asks you. Nothing is Final until you go to MEPS and get a medical exam, and then sign up at the MEPS and swear in. You can still back out anytime before the swearing in part.

 

[jadinolf]

Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats
I would bet one must be a US citizen to serve in it's armed forces...

Wrong.

 

[Synomenon]

That $20000 bonus plus the other $20000 is alot to some. Then if you get shipped to Iraq or Afghanistan you get hazard pay in addition to your regular paycheck. You also get a Cost Of Living Allowance, not sure how much that works though in places like Iraq or Afghanistan.

 

[Number1]

I have read somewhere that there might be a $20K signing bonus. You should look into it.


I hope you can join the army and kik some serious Taliban scumbag but.

Thank you for your service in advance.

 

[CaptnKirk]

Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats
I would bet one must be a US citizen to serve in it's armed forces...

When I was in the Air Force, I had enlisted friends that were from Ireland and Argentina,
citizens of foriegn countries,
doing just as you are describing - trying the military as a doorway to citizenship.

Talk to a recruiter and see what they can arrange for you.
Don't just go Army, check the Marines, Air Force, Navy, and Coast Guard as well.

Did you know that just by crossing the border from the US into Mexico it makes you eligible for being drafted into the Mexican Army?
Makes you think twice about your Cancun vacation.

 

[Itchrelief]

Originally posted by: SilthDraeth
You basically sign up for a commitment of 8 years. If you serve 2, then you have 6 years of retainability where they call you, and you have to go back on Active Duty. There is no way around that part of signing up.

You might as well enlist for 8 years unless you figure we're going to bail out of Iraq in the near future. If you enlist for 2 or something like that, you'll probably just get called back right as you start getting settled into civilian life again.

 

[bwatson283]

Originally posted by: dainthomas

Originally posted by: shocksyde
For the money, are you kidding?

OP: So you're having trouble with your TPS reports? Did you get the memo?

"Hey man, what is this i hear about you having problems with your TPS reports", "ya", "did you get that memo?"

 

[ngvepforever2]

Since you are in TPS status, you are not eligible to enlist in the army. The only privilege that TPS gives you is to be able to work legally and avoid deportation (that's the main reason TPS exists), in some states it also gives you in-state tuition in college. You need to have a greencard or citizenship to legally enlist in the army. With that said, there have been cases, normally during major wars, were even illegal aliens enlisted and after serving they were given citizenship. That can happen still (I remember I read a case in the newspapers a few years back), but if it did it would be a major fluke made by your recruiter (which I believe is very rare since nowadays many government offices are interconnected).

Good luck with whatever you decide to do.

ng

 

[AndrewR]

Originally posted by: shocksyde
I'm having trouble understanding why someone would WANT to go to Iraq. I guess that's a P&N thing, though.

I wouldn't go over there for $50k. No way in hell.

I wanted to go to Iraq, and I did. It's my profession, and that's where the profession of arms is currently being exercised. It's a question of duty, responsibility and sacrifice -- ideas which most Americans don't understand in the least.

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

Originally posted by: AndrewR

Originally posted by: shocksyde
I'm having trouble understanding why someone would WANT to go to Iraq. I guess that's a P&N thing, though.

I wouldn't go over there for $50k. No way in hell.

I wanted to go to Iraq, and I did. It's my profession, and that's where the profession of arms is currently being exercised. It's a question of duty, responsibility and sacrifice -- ideas which most Americans don't understand in the least.

There's also the concept of being successful and well off which certain people don't understand either.

 

[nick1985]

Originally posted by: DLeRium

Originally posted by: AndrewR

Originally posted by: shocksyde
I'm having trouble understanding why someone would WANT to go to Iraq. I guess that's a P&N thing, though.

I wouldn't go over there for $50k. No way in hell.

I wanted to go to Iraq, and I did. It's my profession, and that's where the profession of arms is currently being exercised. It's a question of duty, responsibility and sacrifice -- ideas which most Americans don't understand in the least.

There's also the concept of being successful and well off which certain people don't understand either.

What the hell is that supposed to mean.

 

[AndrewR]

Originally posted by: DLeRium

Originally posted by: AndrewR

Originally posted by: shocksyde
I'm having trouble understanding why someone would WANT to go to Iraq. I guess that's a P&N thing, though.

I wouldn't go over there for $50k. No way in hell.

I wanted to go to Iraq, and I did. It's my profession, and that's where the profession of arms is currently being exercised. It's a question of duty, responsibility and sacrifice -- ideas which most Americans don't understand in the least.

There's also the concept of being successful and well off which certain people don't understand either.

Thank you for proving my point. Welcome to the "Me Generation", and if you wonder why the US is failing when you're a little older and perhaps a smidgen wiser, I hope you'll remember your idiotic post and mindset.

So, since you're so successful, what do you do that is such a benefit to this country?

 

[bGIveNs33]

Originally posted by: AndrewR

Originally posted by: DLeRium

Originally posted by: AndrewR

Originally posted by: shocksyde
I'm having trouble understanding why someone would WANT to go to Iraq. I guess that's a P&N thing, though.

I wouldn't go over there for $50k. No way in hell.

I wanted to go to Iraq, and I did. It's my profession, and that's where the profession of arms is currently being exercised. It's a question of duty, responsibility and sacrifice -- ideas which most Americans don't understand in the least.

There's also the concept of being successful and well off which certain people don't understand either.

Thank you for proving my point. Welcome to the "Me Generation", and if you wonder why the US is failing when you're a little older and perhaps a smidgen wiser, I hope you'll remember your idiotic post and mindset.

So, since you're so successful, what do you do that is such a benefit to this country?

Nothing makes me feel more successful than taking 100klbs of cargo down range..... well, and then going back to germany afterwards is pretty cool too.