I want my kids to go to JESUS CAMP.

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moshquerade

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Originally posted by: NuclearNed
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: NuclearNed
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: NuclearNed
Originally posted by: Ulfhednar
Originally posted by: NuclearNed
5Blessed are the meek,
for they will inherit the earth.
That is exactly what my church taught, not this psychofundie fascist crap.

A lot of Christians don't know what the Bible actually says. Pity.
it's open to interpretation like any book is.

True, but while there are differences of opinion about interpretation among Christians, thats not what I'm getting at. A lot of Christians I know either haven't read the Bible, or their reading comprehension sucks beyond belief.
well something is being interpreted right, because Christians are a pretty good group on the whole.

I totally agree, and I'm glad to be one. But at the same time I have gripes with lots of things that many Christians do.
on that we can agree. :)
except i won't go with "many", but with "some".

 

cbcjs

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No doubt that there are Christians who hold and practice aberrant views (e.g. guy in Utah who got arrested for polygamy)
but this movie makes it seem like what they are portraying is mainstream Christianity.

They (producers/director of this movie) obviously have an agenda and have edited/cut/paste this movie
to promote their "version" of the truth for their own purposes.

Any "thinking" person should be able to see right through this....

my 2 cents
 

Ulfhednar

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Jun 24, 2006
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Originally posted by: cbcjs
No doubt that there are Christians who hold and practice aberrant views (e.g. guy in Utah who got arrested for polygamy)
but this movie makes it seem like what they are portraying is mainstream Christianity.

They (producers/director of this movie) obviously have an agenda and have edited/cut/paste this movie
to promote their "version" of the truth for their own purposes.

Any "thinking" person should be able to see right through this....

my 2 cents
I think that everyone on this forum at least can see that this is not a display of mainstream Christianity, but a bunch of utter whack-jobs brainwashing kids.
 

jagec

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Apr 30, 2004
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Originally posted by: Ulfhednar
This is no different to Al Q. teaching kids to blow themselves up in the name of Allah, this is no different to the false Jihad going on at the moment (they even use words to describe themselves like soldier and war.)

Except that, you know, those kids aren't killing anyone:roll:

The really sad thing about that video is that so many people not only believe the picture painted in that video is an accurate representation of Christianity as a whole, they actually add their own brush strokes as well.

It seems that every day I read this forum, I feverently hope that all of you are just high school kids, and don't hold any positions of actual authority. Because the thinking skills and critical evaluation exhibited on this forum make George W. Bush look like Einstein.
 

kinev

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Originally posted by: NuclearNed
Originally posted by: NuclearNed
Originally posted by: pkananen
Jesus said his followers were in God's army, and they must die for their faith. They are doing as all Christians are called to do. I am not ashamed of this.

Uhh... refresh my memory - in what book and verse did Jesus say this?

Seriously - back up the statement you made.

John 15:18-21

18"If the world hates you, keep in mind that it hated me first. 19If you belonged to the world, it would love you as its own. As it is, you do not belong to the world, but I have chosen you out of the world. That is why the world hates you. 20Remember the words I spoke to you: 'No servant is greater than his master.' If they persecuted me, they will persecute you also. If they obeyed my teaching, they will obey yours also. 21They will treat you this way because of my name, for they do not know the One who sent me.

Not so much saying we have to die for our faith, but that we WILL be persecuted for our faith. Jesus said we'd be persecuted like him. How was he persecuted? He was tortured and killed.

Also, that clip is obviously pretty biased. If they're following the teachings of Jesus at that camp, then they're being taught to be missionaries in Jesus' army, not soldiers. Truth is, missionaries are martyred even today. It's a tough world out there if you share the Gospel. That's probably why they refer to themselves as in an army.

Or, they may be wackos. Can't tell for sure from the (obviously agenda seeking) video.
 

Ulfhednar

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Originally posted by: jagec
Originally posted by: Ulfhednar
This is no different to Al Q. teaching kids to blow themselves up in the name of Allah, this is no different to the false Jihad going on at the moment (they even use words to describe themselves like soldier and war.)
Except that, you know, those kids aren't killing anyone:roll:
Both groups are encouraging children to believe it's right to fight and to die in the name of religion. It's brainwashing on both sides and is absolutely no different, regardless of wether one group is killing anyone and one isn't (yet.)

Originally posted by: jagec
The really sad thing about that video is that so many people not only believe the picture painted in that video is an accurate representation of Christianity as a whole, they actually add their own brush strokes as well.
Sad that you didn't read my previous post. I don't think that anyone here believes this to be an accurate representation of Christianity; I myself am not a Christian, but was raised Christian, so I know that this is nothing short of blasphemy.

Originally posted by: jagec
It seems that every day I read this forum, I feverently hope that all of you are just high school kids, and don't hold any positions of actual authority. Because the thinking skills and critical evaluation exhibited on this forum make George W. Bush look like Einstein.
I have no doubt people think the same of you as someone who is trying to defend these wackos.
 

ForumMaster

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this is so stupid. it makes americans look like arabs. this is what the arabs do. this is the stupidest camp ever!
 

Ulfhednar

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Originally posted by: ForumMaster
this is so stupid. it makes americans look like extremists. this is what the extremists do. this is the stupidest camp ever!
What is with this obsession with "arab = evil"?

Fixed it for you.
 

loic2003

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yeah, seen this a while back. It's like any religion: breeding ignorance, intolerance and indoctrination of the younger generations, but to a greater level.

Of course it's fvcking retarded, but that's what religion does to people. Any free-thinking, intelligent person who's mentality belongs in this century isn't religious. It's that simple.

I love how loads of them a fat-asses, yet even I know that gluttony is one of the seven deadly sins. Classic A-star with honours hypocritical tards.

I'd gladly ignore all these religious idiots, and concentrate on associating with decent people, but unfortunately many of these vermin are highly vocal with their ideas, much to my disgust. Roll on the islamic-christian war when we can see a healthy reduction in numbers of these fools and see a global rise in average IQ levels...
 

nakedfrog

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Originally posted by: CKent
Originally posted by: Aimster
Now you know how some Muslims are brainwashed into believing that suicide bombings are right.

Some?

Yeah, some. Or are you somehow under the impression that all of them are?
Because let me tell you, there's enough muslims in the world that there'd be a lot more stuff blowing up if they were all were.
 

Ulfhednar

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Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Originally posted by: CKent
Originally posted by: Aimster
Now you know how some Muslims are brainwashed into believing that suicide bombings are right.
Some?
Yeah, some. Or are you somehow under the impression that all of them are?
Because let me tell you, there's enough muslims in the world that there'd be a lot more stuff blowing up if they were all were.
Ignore CKent, he's no different to the extremists. They believe all westerners are evil, and a lot of westerners now believe all Muslims are evil. It's a perpetual cycle of prejudice and hate that won't end until a good many people are killed for no reason.
 

lokiju

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Well at least that author of the book "righteous" isn't biased or anything...

A self professed "secular liberal feminist"
:laugh:
 

OutHouse

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Originally posted by: Ulfhednar
Originally posted by: ForumMaster
this is so stupid. it makes americans look like extremists. this is what the extremists do. this is the stupidest camp ever!
What is with this obsession with "arab = evil"?

Fixed it for you.

when was the last time you saw a Buddhist blow up a vegetable market?
 

Baked

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That ain't jesus camp, it's a fvcking brainwashing cult center. fvcking sick.
 

Ulfhednar

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Originally posted by: Citrix
Originally posted by: Ulfhednar
Originally posted by: ForumMaster
this is so stupid. it makes americans look like extremists. this is what the extremists do. this is the stupidest camp ever!
What is with this obsession with "arab = evil"?

Fixed it for you.
when was the last time you saw a Buddhist blow up a vegetable market?
I've never seen a Muslim blow up a vegetable market either, and I know plenty. I've only ever heard about it in the news.

Maybe it has something to do with the fact that Muslim extremists are in the minority. :roll:
 

Turin39789

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Nov 21, 2000
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Originally posted by: Ulfhednar
Originally posted by: Citrix
Originally posted by: Ulfhednar
Originally posted by: ForumMaster
this is so stupid. it makes americans look like extremists. this is what the extremists do. this is the stupidest camp ever!
What is with this obsession with "arab = evil"?

Fixed it for you.
when was the last time you saw a Buddhist blow up a vegetable market?
I've never seen a Muslim blow up a vegetable market either, and I know plenty. I've only ever heard about it in the news.

Maybe it has something to do with the fact that Muslim extremists are in the minority. :roll:


What!?! You mean extremists are in the minority! You mean every other christian doesn't blow up abortion clinics and shoot doctors who perform abortions?!?!?!

HOLY SCHMOLEY!
 

moshquerade

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Nov 1, 2001
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Originally posted by: Turin39789
Originally posted by: Ulfhednar
Originally posted by: Citrix
Originally posted by: Ulfhednar
Originally posted by: ForumMaster
this is so stupid. it makes americans look like extremists. this is what the extremists do. this is the stupidest camp ever!
What is with this obsession with "arab = evil"?

Fixed it for you.
when was the last time you saw a Buddhist blow up a vegetable market?
I've never seen a Muslim blow up a vegetable market either, and I know plenty. I've only ever heard about it in the news.

Maybe it has something to do with the fact that Muslim extremists are in the minority. :roll:


What!?! You mean extremists are in the minority! You mean every other christian doesn't blow up abortion clinics and shoot doctors who perform abortions?!?!?!

HOLY SCHMOLEY!
generalizations are a bitch aren't they? :laugh:

can i add that every other priest is molesting kids? it's true cause it's mentioned all over messageboards so it has to be true.