Then strap on some dynamite and go blow up a mosque because, as others said above, you are no different than the Islamic wingnuts who do the same thing!
Why do Christian extremists love taking snippets out of the bible to prop up their lame @ss points when it totally obliviates what Jesus was really trying to say?
When all reason fails quote from the bible...the original soundbite! :frown:
"Self-rightousness has to be the most common and least attractive of all human traits", sorry I can't remember who originally said that
You should.
BTW, if I see evangelicals protesting at abortion clinics, I'm going and buying multiple cartons of eggs. Don't interfere with a woman's right under the law, sh1theads.
Yeah she pissed me off in the video. "It's us against them." That is her exact attitude as well. She might as well have just said, if you aren't open to abortion and gay marriage, you are against me. Yet she makes them sound like they are the only ones with the us against them attitude. In any case, that video is whacko. Bush, nor any president should ever be worshipped.
Or she could simply be more politically savvy than Osama.
Anyways, the Hitler Youths were similar... they weren't asked if they were ready to kill, but if they were ready to die (willing to kill is easy, it's the dying part that is hard).
What about people being in an army of salvation? Like the salvation army?
And I'm a soldier in God's army. I go out and fight every day.. except the weapons of my warfare are not carnal, but mighty in God.
You also have to recognize what Jesus was saying too. He says, "If anyone comes to Me, and does not hate his own father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters, yes, and even his own life, he cannot be My disciple. Whoever does not carry his own cross and come after Me cannot be My disciple." Luke 14:26,27
That is the sense of abandonment that we have to have for Him. I would go to Jesus Camp and check out what they're doing. As long as it's biblical I'm okay with it. But if it is not, then rebuking is definitely needed.
While it is very easy to make fun of people for what they're doing, you really don't quite understand what is happening there. The bible says, "Do not give what is holy to dogs, and do not throw your pearls before swine, or they will trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you to pieces."
That is a great example of what Jesus said, in action.
I would like to quote a few lines of dialog from the Jesus Camp trailer: -
"I pledge allegiance to the Christian flag..." - A group of children.
"There are two kinds of people in this world; People who love Jesus, and people who don't." - A supporter.
"Where should we be putting our focus? I'll tell you where our enemies are putting it, they're putting it on the kids." - Pastor Beki Fisher.
"There are people in Palestine taking their kids to camps, like we take our kids to Bible camps, and they're putting hand grenades in their hands." - Pastor Beki Fisher.
"How many of you want to be those who would give up their lives for Jesus?" - Chanted to children.
"We are being trained to be God's army." - A child.
"You are the beginnings of a movement!" - Chanted to children.
"Righteous justice! Righteous justice!" - Children chanting (Allah Ackbar??)
"If the evangelicals vote, they determine the election. -- They've taken over the White House, Congress, the judiciary for a generation." - A critic.
"This is just the tip of the iceberg." - Pastor Beki Fisher.
"This means war! This means war! Are you a part of it or not?!" - Pastor Beki Fisher.
Doesn't sound anything like the Salvation Army to me. They don't preach about their "enemies" or their "war", they don't preach about giving up their lives either, and they certainly don't brainwash children like this.
I don't know about you, but it sounds to me like the leaders of these Jesus Camps are power-tripping psychopaths and a danger to children. Especially this Beki Fisher woman, who needs to learn that gluttony and sloth are sins.
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Yes, you're right. Here's a good example of the feelings of less radical Muslims. Need I mention that pillars of the muslim world; spiritual and national leaders - have said pretty much the same things?
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hooray for brainwashing our kids! but at least they won't grow up and pretend to wear boots of escaping
pontifex
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wow...i just saw video of this Jesus Camp this morning on the news. thats frickin insane!
in one scene the woman was talking about Harry Potter and how he is a warlock and how warlocks are evil and he would have been killed!
Its a fvcking fictional character made for kids!! WTF WTF WTF is wrong with these people?
in one scene the woman was talking about Harry Potter and how he is a warlock and how warlocks are evil and he would have been killed!
Its a fvcking fictional character made for kids!! WTF WTF WTF is wrong with these people?
Yes, the 500-700 in that demonstration are representative for the millions of Muslims in the UK who didn't protest, just like every single US Christian supports Jesus Camp and it's ideals :roll:
What the hell do I care, give them weapons and ship them out. They probably have terrible aim and they will meet their maker faster than you can say righteous irony.
judasmachine
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if you work at a planned parenthood watch out when these kids grow up. atlanta everywhere... very frightening.
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