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Originally posted by: soydios

Image looks slightly green, about a stop underexposed, and the out-of-focus part of the plant in the foreground (in front of the in-focus) part is really distracting me.

The sharpness of that combo really comes out in this image, although I'd agree that the OOF part of the plant is distracting. Keep in mind that you don't always need to be shooting wide open, in fact the sharpness of virtually every lens will improve when stopped down a bit. Canon cameras are notorious under-exposers, something to keep in mind when shooting. Always check your histogram.
 

Koing

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Cool camera :)

I was keen on a 1D MkIIn :p but they the 1 series are BEASTS...

Koing
 

angry hampster

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Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
Originally posted by: soydios

Image looks slightly green, about a stop underexposed, and the out-of-focus part of the plant in the foreground (in front of the in-focus) part is really distracting me.

The sharpness of that combo really comes out in this image, although I'd agree that the OOF part of the plant is distracting. Keep in mind that you don't always need to be shooting wide open, in fact the sharpness of virtually every lens will improve when stopped down a bit. Canon cameras are notorious under-exposers, something to keep in mind when shooting. Always check your histogram.

The consumer cams, yes. The 1D-series, no.
 

996GT2

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Originally posted by: swtethan
sharpness?

http://i43.tinypic.com/aujbq1.jpg

check out what i got the other day :p

Actually that shot looks a little bit blurred...perhaps from shooting 1/13 second shutter at 35mm?

You should have bumped the ISO to 200...then you could have gotten a decently hand-holdable shot at around 1/30 sec shutter speed.
 

angry hampster

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Originally posted by: 996GT2
Originally posted by: swtethan
sharpness?

http://i43.tinypic.com/aujbq1.jpg

check out what i got the other day :p

Actually that shot looks a little bit blurred...perhaps from shooting 1/13 second shutter at 35mm?

You should have bumped the ISO to 200...then you could have gotten a decently hand-holdable shot at around 1/30 sec shutter speed.

There's no camera shake in that shot. Looks like the camera was set on the same table as the flash. It just needs some sharpening.
 

996GT2

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Originally posted by: angry hampster
Originally posted by: 996GT2
Originally posted by: swtethan
sharpness?

http://i43.tinypic.com/aujbq1.jpg

check out what i got the other day :p

Actually that shot looks a little bit blurred...perhaps from shooting 1/13 second shutter at 35mm?

You should have bumped the ISO to 200...then you could have gotten a decently hand-holdable shot at around 1/30 sec shutter speed.

There's no camera shake in that shot. Looks like the camera was set on the same table as the flash. It just needs some sharpening.

Well, if its not shake, then he didn't use a small enough aperture. You can clearly see that parts of the lettering are blurred, and that is not something you can fix via sharpening (e.g. the "mode", "+", and "-" buttons). There wasn't enough DoF to cover the entire flash from the looks of it.

OP, did you shoot this in RAW with no sharpening or did you shoot it in JPEG?
 

swtethan

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raw no sharpening :) i just wanted to show off my little addition lol. Ill take one more pic for you guys when i get home. Probably at f/8 with some editing.
 
Oct 27, 2007
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Yet another shot that didn't need to be wide open. Stop your lens down a bit, for the sake of your photographs.

How about some real sample shots? Do you use this camera for anything other than test shots?
 

swtethan

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of course i do take serious pics

http://farm4.static.flickr.com...18672_2f5f3a83f1_b.jpg

I am just waiting on a nice day and my polarizer to really get into it. havent had the best luck lately, woulda had some nice shots on the lake but I found out one of the batteries the guy gave me is dead, bought two more today so they should arrive soon. At least I have the one batt to play around with.
 

soydios

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Originally posted by: swtethan
of course i do take serious pics

http://farm4.static.flickr.com...18672_2f5f3a83f1_b.jpg

I am just waiting on a nice day and my polarizer to really get into it. havent had the best luck lately, woulda had some nice shots on the lake but I found out one of the batteries the guy gave me is dead, bought two more today so they should arrive soon. At least I have the one batt to play around with.

read what I wrote above in this thread:

Originally posted by: soydios

Image looks slightly green, about a stop underexposed, and the out-of-focus part of the plant in the foreground (in front of the in-focus) part is really distracting me.

the image is again a stop (or more) underexposed, still slightly green (although that works for this leafy image), and the excessively bright leaves on the right side distract me from the otherwise pleasing line of the path and tree trunks.
 

foghorn67

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Dude, guys, dude. He is happy he got his camera. It's obvious, that the first few days are a break in. I'm sure he'll find out what he needs to do to get his best out of the 1Ds pretty soon.
Why the critique on the "hey I got my camera" shots?
 

swtethan

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Originally posted by: foghorn67
Dude, guys, dude. He is happy he got his camera. It's obvious, that the first few days are a break in. I'm sure he'll find out what he needs to do to get his best out of the 1Ds pretty soon.
Why the critique on the "hey I got my camera" shots?

thank you :)
 
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Originally posted by: foghorn67
Dude, guys, dude. He is happy he got his camera. It's obvious, that the first few days are a break in. I'm sure he'll find out what he needs to do to get his best out of the 1Ds pretty soon.
Why the critique on the "hey I got my camera" shots?

I think it's natural to expect something fairly special from someone who just bought a 1-series camera.
 

foghorn67

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Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
Originally posted by: foghorn67
Dude, guys, dude. He is happy he got his camera. It's obvious, that the first few days are a break in. I'm sure he'll find out what he needs to do to get his best out of the 1Ds pretty soon.
Why the critique on the "hey I got my camera" shots?

I think it's natural to expect something fairly special from someone who just bought a 1-series camera.

Have you ever used a 1 series camera?

 

996GT2

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I think this thread is a good example of the statement: the camera doesn't make the pictures, the photographer does. A 1Ds, for all of its virtues, is no better than a Rebel if the person behind the camera doesn't use the 1Ds to its fullest.
 

foghorn67

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Originally posted by: 996GT2
I think this thread is a good example of the statement: the camera doesn't make the pictures, the photographer does. A 1Ds, for all of its virtues, is no better than a Rebel if the person behind the camera doesn't use the 1Ds to its fullest.

How many times do I have to say it? He just got the camera. Give him a bit. Geeesh.

You are ready to make some sort of blanket statement to prove some point even the OP knows about.
Reasons he got 1D: Weather sealing. Perhaps he likes the AF servos better on it too if I were to hazard a guess.

But no...we got to whip out our nanny syndrom.
 

Deadtrees

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Gees, what's all this about?

The guy just got 1ds and he only showed a few sample shots; nothing special but plain sample shots and some people just had to jump on him telling him how he should handle the camera?
By all means, those were just plain sample shots as far as I can see. It's not like he was saying how 1DS shines and his pictures are masterpieces.

BTW, 1DS, though it's still a great camera, isn't all that special as when it first came out. We now have varieties of FF cameras and image processing has gotton much better over the years.
In terms of IQ, I wouldn't expect much from it. Below 5d at its best.


Originally posted by: 996GT2
I think this thread is a good example of the statement: the camera doesn't make the pictures, the photographer does. A 1Ds, for all of its virtues, is no better than a Rebel if the person behind the camera doesn't use the 1Ds to its fullest.

Even if that's the case, in time, the same photographer would bring out better pictures by using a better camera.
 

GrJohnso

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Originally posted by: Deadtrees

Originally posted by: 996GT2
I think this thread is a good example of the statement: the camera doesn't make the pictures, the photographer does. A 1Ds, for all of its virtues, is no better than a Rebel if the person behind the camera doesn't use the 1Ds to its fullest.

Even if that's the case, in time, the same photographer would bring out better pictures by using a better camera.

As noted "In Time", better camera or not, anyone will get better results once they get more familiar with their new gear.... Take two equally good photographers (when measured with same gear), then give one of them all new, better, but notable different gear than he was using previously. Then compare them again... On average, the guy using his old gear will initially get better results than the guy with new superior gear he's still trying to figure out... Of course with a little time and practice the better gear will yield better results, but....

Anyway, back to the OP.... Cool camera, have fun with it! I'm sure you'll enjoy the results you get.... Take your time to play with it in all conditions, good and bad.. It's the work I do in crappy conditions that I learn from the most...
 

Shimmishim

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Originally posted by: 996GT2
Originally posted by: swtethan
its the 1Ds, 11 MP

Yeah I meant Ds. Does it really only go up to ISO 1250 though? If so I'm thinking that's one of the main benefits of a FF sensor (low high ISO noise) gone, since you can't even really select the high ISOs.

I checked the specs on the 1D Mk. I; strange that it goes up to ISO 3200 while the Ds seemingly only goes up to 1250.

you can always underexpose by 1 stop and bring it up in pp which would give you somewhere between ISO2000 and 3200 (not sure what goes between those two).
 

soydios

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as long as people are constructive and not demeaning in their criticism, I don't see the problem with it.