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I upgraded from a celeron 400 to an XP 2000+ and I don't see any difference

OS

Lifer

It's not any faster in windows. And I have those weird stalls again that happen on single cpu systems when the cpu gets bogged down.

I'm utterly unimpressed. It's a shame the old mobo was dying.

 
Then you're a moron or your HD needs a major defragment/format.
Even Helen Keller could tell the difference between a celeron 400 and an XP 2000+
 
Originally posted by: OS
I just did a reformat.

That's not very nice to call a stranger a moron.
It's not very intelligent to say that there isn't a difference between an XP2000+ and a Cele 400. He's right - Hellen Keller would notice a difference.

Rob
 
Right,

So take that XP2000+ machine, but it in a box, and ship it to me! I have a Celeron 400Mhz system I can sent to you! 🙂

-DaFinn

ps. You not serious, right? :Q
 
It's not very intelligent to say that there isn't a difference between an XP2000+ and a Cele 400.
He did not say there isn't a difference between the two, he said he upgraded and saw no difference. Get it? Shall I explain the difference?
I upgraded from a celeron 400 to an XP 2000+ and I don't see any difference
Clearly, there is something 'wrong' with your configuration. Even if you had an old hard drive that was posing a bottleneck, you should see a LITTLE difference. Are you sure that your system is not running in DOS compatibility mode or something?
 
While I do not have a XP 2000, I do have a 400HMhz Celeron o/c to 500Mhz, and a 1.2Ghz Tbird, and a 1Ghz Duron. I can tell the difference. One particullary noticable time is when we are joining the 3 systems in a LAN game of WCIII. Just take a guess which system we wait for to finally join the game? Hint, it aint the Tbird! Perhaps you need to do some things that will use the processor. There would not be noticable differece for email/browesing, but if you load up a modern 3-d game the difference should be obvious.
 
Originally posted by: tcsenter
It's not very intelligent to say that there isn't a difference between an XP2000+ and a Cele 400.
He did not say there isn't a difference, he said he upgraded and saw no difference. Get it? Shall I explain the difference?
I upgraded from a celeron 400 to an XP 2000+ and I don't see any difference
Clearly, there is something 'wrong' with your configuration. Even if you had an old hard drive that was posing a bottleneck, you should see a LITTLE difference. Are you sure that your system is not running in DOS compatibility mode or something?
For all practical purposes, we're discussing this as he sees it; despite the fact that I didn't quote him entirely, the intent of his post was this: I did not perceive a difference between a Celeron 400 and an XP2000+, which is interpreted as: [to me], there is no difference between these two chips. To say so is ignorant or imperceptive at best; it's not a stretch to say that such comments "aren't very intelligent."

No need to play semantic games with me. If it's your prerogative to act like a supercilious jackass, that's fine - but don't condescend to me.

Rob
 
For all practical purposes, we're discussing this as he sees it; despite the fact that I didn't quote him entirely, the intent of his post was this: I did not perceive a difference between a Celeron 400 and an XP2000+, which is interpreted as: [to me], there is no difference between these two chips. To say so is ignorant or imperceptive at best; it's not a stretch to say that such comments "aren't very intelligent."
Wow, that was a very wordy way to say "I interpreted his statement wrongly and I'm a real ass for insulting him based on my erroneous intepretation."

However you wish to cut it, what YOU stated he said and what he said are two entirely different things. You're welcome.
 
Hahaha, I gave my dad my old 550MHz PIII system to replace his Packard Bell 150MHz system, he's saying "I don't see any difference". Very frustrating actually.
 
Originally posted by: tcsenter
For all practical purposes, we're discussing this as he sees it; despite the fact that I didn't quote him entirely, the intent of his post was this: I did not perceive a difference between a Celeron 400 and an XP2000+, which is interpreted as: [to me], there is no difference between these two chips. To say so is ignorant or imperceptive at best; it's not a stretch to say that such comments "aren't very intelligent."
Wow, that was a very wordy way to say "I interpreted his statement wrongly and I'm a real ass for insulting him based on my erroneous intepretation."

However you wish to cut it, what YOU stated he said and what he said are two entirely different things. You're welcome.
Now you're misinterpreting me. Here it is, in simple terms, so you can understand. I wouldn't want you to get confused.
I'm utterly unimpressed. It's a shame the old mobo was dying.
His post was not asking for help; he was stating that there is no perceptible difference between a Celeron 400 and an XP2000. In my book, that's an utterly ignorant thing to say; if you aren't noticing a difference between the two chips, then you should figure out what is wrong with your system. Regardless of the context of the situation, it's "not very intelligent" to say that there is no perceptible difference between such opposites of the CPU spectrum.

I stand by my original post. What he said wasn't very intelligent; the semantic difference between "I don't see any difference," when coupled with "I'm utterly unimpressed," and the statement "there isn't a difference." What can be implied from his statement - and correctly implied - is that [to him] there is no difference between the chips. This, to me and many others, smacks of ignorance.

Rob
 
Originally posted by: tcsenter
It's not very intelligent to say that there isn't a difference between an XP2000+ and a Cele 400.
He did not say there isn't a difference between the two, he said he upgraded and saw no difference. Get it? Shall I explain the difference?
I upgraded from a celeron 400 to an XP 2000+ and I don't see any difference
Clearly, there is something 'wrong' with your configuration. Even if you had an old hard drive that was posing a bottleneck, you should see a LITTLE difference. Are you sure that your system is not running in DOS compatibility mode or something?

thx.

I'm dead serious while putzing around on my desktop/windows/internet, I don't see any difference. Games like UT do run better now, they don't stall and bottom out, but I'm not really a gamer.

Everything else in my system was semimodern before the upgrade. 20G 7200 (boot), 80G 7200 (swap), 120G 5400, 32mb gtsv. PC133 SDRAM, 768 mb on old mobo, 512 on new one (only two slots on new mobo).

I should mention I actually had dual celerons before. I guess I feel like I wasted money on computing power that I don't see.




 
Originally posted by: Entity


No need to play semantic games with me. If it's your prerogative to act like a supercilious jackass, that's fine - but don't condescend to me.

heh, you're one to talk.

I guess it's ok for you to be a jackass to me, but not for others to be a jackass to you.





 
Originally posted by: OS
Originally posted by: tcsenter
It's not very intelligent to say that there isn't a difference between an XP2000+ and a Cele 400.
He did not say there isn't a difference between the two, he said he upgraded and saw no difference. Get it? Shall I explain the difference?
I upgraded from a celeron 400 to an XP 2000+ and I don't see any difference
Clearly, there is something 'wrong' with your configuration. Even if you had an old hard drive that was posing a bottleneck, you should see a LITTLE difference. Are you sure that your system is not running in DOS compatibility mode or something?

thx.

I'm dead serious while putzing around on my desktop/windows/internet, I don't see any difference. Games like UT do run better now, they don't stall and bottom out, but I'm not really a gamer.

Everything else in my system was semimodern before the upgrade. 20G 7200 (boot), 80G 7200 (swap), 120G 5400, 32mb gtsv. PC133 SDRAM, 768 mb on old mobo, 512 on new one (only two slots on new mobo).

I guess I should mention I actually had dual celerons before. I guess I feel like I wasted money on computing power that I don't see.
Did you only upgrade because of the busted mobo? Regardless of the dual/single situation, you should be noticing a bit more of a difference; there is some bottleneck in your system, but I can't really be sure of what from that post. Your IDE cables are all ATA-100, right? Running XP? 2K?

Sorry if I hijacked your thread at all; I'm reading about semantics, pragmatism, and how we imply meaning in sentences right now (Linguistics course), so it's basically me testing myself so I'll do well in my quiz tomorrow. 😀

Rob
 
Originally posted by: OS
Originally posted by: Entity


No need to play semantic games with me. If it's your prerogative to act like a supercilious jackass, that's fine - but don't condescend to me.

heh, you're one to talk.

I guess it's ok for you to be a jackass to me, but not for others to be a jackass to you.
I said it was ok for him to be a jackass, just not to condescend. 😀

I wasn't trying to be a jackass to you, just a slight bit flippant and snide. It is 1:43AM, after all. 😉

Rob
 
His post was not asking for help;
That is not material to your misinterpretation. It has no bearing on your error. Whether he asked for help or not, is not an issue.
he was stating that there is no perceptible difference between a Celeron 400 and an XP2000.
That is merely your inference, an ill-advised one which does not flow from his actual words. He stated he 'saw no difference', which is a purely subjective communication of his personally unique experience, one which is self-sustaining and not open to disagreement or interpretation, everything else is your own conjecture unsupported by his actual words.

Whether not you find some "implied" meaning in his message, one which goes against the prima fascia literal meaning of his words, is not substantial enough to support insulting him.

As my old professor might say, "Read what they wrote, as the first indication of what they mean, don't take it upon yourself to intepret what they 'really' meant to say, but didn't."
 
Originally posted by: Entity

I said it was ok for him to be a jackass, just not to condescend. 😀

I wasn't trying to be a jackass to you, just a slight bit flippant and snide. It is 1:43AM, after all. 😉

Rob


ok ok, no hard feelings, life goes on, etc.

HDs are on a promise 66. Yeah I know, kind of old, but I don't think the hds are going to saturate 66 mb/s at any rate.



 

oh yeah I'm using 80 conductor ribbons.

I mean, it's nice and smooth right now, but not any moreso than before.

 
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