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I upgraded from a celeron 400 to an XP 2000+ and I don't see any difference

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Originally posted by: tcsenter
His post was not asking for help;
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That is not material to your misinterpretation. It has no bearing on your error. Whether he asked for help or not, is not an issue.
he was stating that there is no perceptible difference between a Celeron 400 and an XP2000.
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That is merely your inference, an ill-advised one which does not flow from his actual words. He stated he 'saw no difference', which is a purely subjective communication of his personally unique experience, one which is self-sustaining and not open to disagreement or interpretation, everything else is your own conjecture unsupported by his actual words.

Whether not you find some "implied" meaning in his message, one which goes against the prima fascia literal meaning of his words, is not substantial enough to support insulting him.
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I didn't intend to insult him; I have apologized for that already, in my own way. 😀 I said that his words were "not very intelligent," in no way intending to imply that he wasn't.

Regarding the rest of your post, a majority of language is built on inferences. Consequently, other elements of his post - not asking for help, etc. - are relevant to the interpretation of his words. His meaning - especially in light of the "it's a shame" comment - was to say that there is no perceptible difference between these two chips. Such a statement is incorrect.

Had his post merely said:
It's not any faster in windows. And I have those weird stalls again that happen on single cpu systems when the cpu gets bogged down.
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My interpretation would have been different, and assuredly more polite. However, I don't generally deal well with ignorance; I see enough of it on a daily basis that when I post here, I become flippant, and occasionally mean-spirited. For my attitude, an apology is warranted, and has been offered: for an alleged misinterpretation of subjective material, I offer none.

With that in mind, OS, what was the point of this thread?

Rob
 
As my old professor might say, "Read what they wrote, as the first indication of what they mean, don't take it upon yourself to intepret what they 'really' meant to say, but didn't."
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Did your old professor tell you to only read part of what someone wrote, or to take it as a whole? Language is contextual, after all.

Rob
 
Whatever you end up doing, good luck. At the end of properly configurating it, you really should notice a difference, unless you are only running notepad. 😉

Rob
 
You've definitely done something wrong, there's absolutely no doubt about that. My friend has a PII 450 and well, it's horribly slow compared to my 1.4Ghz tbird and even my 600mhz duron.

Having a decent speed hard drive is very helpful, though...I don't think you mentioned what capacity your drive(s) is/are...
 
I have a P2 350 at work, and dual Athlon 1.33GHz at home. Just goofing around in windows, there honestly isn't a perceptible difference. However when multitasking, games, or anything relating to large files or multimedia comes to play, the difference is glaring. It just depends on what you use your computer for.
 

Maxtor DM60 20gig, 7200 rpm, 2mb cache (boot)
WD WD800BB 80 gig, 7200 rpm, 2mb cache (swap)
GF2 GTS-V 32MB DDR

(before)
BP6
768 MB PC133
400(x2)

(after)
ECS K7S5A
512 MB PC133
XP2000+ 133fsb/133mem
 
BP6 768 MB PC133 400(x2)
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Well if you had a dual Celeron 400 setup SMP in Win2K, 7200RPM HDD's and ample RAM, I can see how Windows apps, file browsing (windows explorer), internet browsing and the like would not benefit much at all from an upgrade to a single Athlon XP. I thought you went from a uniprocessor Celeron 400 to your current system.

In any event, I would still format and perform a clean install of Win2k on your existing configuration.

 
I don't know why people find it so hard to comprehend... there really isn't much difference using windows between various speed CPU's... all else equal. There is a difference, just nothing significant. I don't think there's going to be any magic setting / fix that's going to make OS suddenly appreciate the new XP CPU.

I have a laptop that's a PII 366 (66MHz FSB) and a Celeron 850 and a Duron 1GHz system. All running Win2K or XP. I can tell very little difference in the business apps on the three systems--and the dog is the laptop because of it's slow hdd (like 4 RPM!!! 😀 ) Running MS Office, opening a browser window & surfing, listening to MP3's, it's all very low CPU usage to begin with.

Now, fire up a game and the difference becomes clear. Do something w/ multimedia (Compress some MP3's or encode a video) and again--easy to see the difference.

One option for OS -- you've got that ECS motherboard, you can try swapping the PC133 RAM for DDR and see how it helps. Supposedly that makes a big difference. I haven't played w/ a DDR system yet so I can't vouch for that but the extra bandwidth may make things snappier.






 
He probably has an old slow @ss 2 gig hard drive and that's the bottle neck on both systems. Or maybe an old Trident video card 🙂
 
Originally posted by: OS
Originally posted by: tcsenter
It's not very intelligent to say that there isn't a difference between an XP2000+ and a Cele 400.
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He did not say there isn't a difference between the two, he said he upgraded and saw no difference. Get it? Shall I explain the difference?
I upgraded from a celeron 400 to an XP 2000+ and I don't see any difference
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Clearly, there is something 'wrong' with your configuration. Even if you had an old hard drive that was posing a bottleneck, you should see a LITTLE difference. Are you sure that your system is not running in DOS compatibility mode or something?
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thx. I'm dead serious while putzing around on my desktop/windows/internet, I don't see any difference. Games like UT do run better now, they don't stall and bottom out, but I'm not really a gamer. Everything else in my system was semimodern before the upgrade. 20G 7200 (boot), 80G 7200 (swap), 120G 5400, 32mb gtsv. PC133 SDRAM, 768 mb on old mobo, 512 on new one (only two slots on new mobo). I should mention I actually had dual celerons before. I guess I feel like I wasted money on computing power that I don't see.
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Dual celery's? what software are you running? I doubt if that second proc got used at all. What is it with people thinking that if they get a SMP system thatthey will see a huge difference. Sorry to burst your bubble guys you won't in, not unless you are runing CAD/Science/ or heavy duty math programs.

 
Ok, here's the problem. The ECS mobo is a POS mobo. The mobo is known to have that little stall he was talking about. The BP6 mobo is a great mobo at its time. I am sure if he swap out the ECS mobo with a better one, he will see a difference. But he still have to run something more intensive than file browsing or playing solitaire.
 
I have a laptop that's a PII 366 (66MHz FSB) and a Celeron 850 and a Duron 1GHz system. All running Win2K or XP. I can tell very little difference in the business apps on the three systems--and the dog is the laptop because of it's slow hdd (like 4 RPM!!! ) Running MS Office, opening a browser window & surfing, listening to MP3's, it's all very low CPU usage to begin with.
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I recently upgraded my parents computer from a Celeron 300a o/c => 450Mhz with 128MB of SDRAM, to a Duron 850 with 256MB of SDRAM, and there was quite a difference. Even my mother noticed a difference right away, it boots faster for one thing. Same [slow] Fujitsu 4500RPM ATA/33 hard drive with 512K buffer. I did zero-write format the HDD and install Windows 98SE minus about 50 freaking programs she had before but never uses. So I think the fresh install had a little to do with it.

Opening very simple documents like a notepad, wordpad, or HTML file is no 'faster', but a lot of other things are.
 
buy a better hard drive. I went from a 1ghz pIII to a 1.8ghz. You would not think there would be much a difference in the speed of the windows desktop, but damn... I gave the 1ghz to my children and playing on it last night I noticed how much slower everything feels.
 
like they said Get at ATA 100 or 133 HD that will noticabilly speed things up. even if its just your boot drive.

Get some DDR ram 256 megs of PC 2100 will Give you the jump im performance you expected 512 would be better.

Make sure you have all the mobo drivers 4 in 1's ect...

check the bios to see if there is an update that possiably fixes something

look for any hardware conflicts also

i upgraded from a T-Bird 800 @ 950 to a XP 1700+ @ 1.g GHz In november of 2001. and WOW i coudl see the diff right away in everything. just running IE and AIM was faster
 
ok well games are a lot faster now that I've thoroughly played with it, but there is that freaking stalling in windows that seriously annoying!! It hangs for a like a second and then it responds again. help!!

make it work, I don't want to drive back out to frys
 
Backup, format, reinstall.

No difference! :Q 😕

BTW (I don't want to start a flame war here), but I am NOT a fan of that ECS mobo. If you bought at Frys, it's not too late to take it back and get a nice Epox 8K5A2+, sell your slow PC133 and get some sweet PC2700. Then, for God's sake, you better notice a difference!!
 
Originally posted by: Vic
Backup, format, reinstall.

No difference! :Q 😕

BTW (I don't want to start a flame war here), but I am NOT a fan of that ECS mobo. If you bought at Frys, it's not too late to take it back and get a nice Epox 8K5A2+, sell your slow PC133 and get some sweet PC2700. Then, for God's sake, you better notice a difference!!
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I already reformatted.

yeah I'm already having problems with this mobo. When I first booted it, it said the battery was dying and I was like wtf, I just got this mobo. And then later I found out that it's actually a common problem from amdmb.com

I'm probably gonna get an 815/tually cel now. I don't want to buy DDR at this price point.



 
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