upsciLLion
Diamond Member
Did you just talk to yourself on an Internet forum?
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I remember some asshat complaining about religion threads the other day
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Did you just talk to yourself on an Internet forum?
lobadobadingdong
Lifer
read all of the tread 😉 and yes I used the wrong phrase, my point is you would you spend the money even if it said in no god can we trust, or Ala protect us? finatics lie on both ends of this retarded constant argument on this forum, when people can say you keep your religion (or lack of) as your religion dictates and I keep my religion (or lack of) as it dictates, and people don't flame others just for spite, then you have something I like to call freedom of religion, free from persicution.
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I went to school and learned how to read.
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Yup
daniel1113
Diamond Member
ANNUIT COEPTIS = He [God] has favored our undertaking
NOVUS ORDO SECLORUM = A New Order of the World -or- New Order of the Ages
E PLURIBUS UNUM = From many, one
EDIT: The word seclorum does not mean "secular," as one might assume, but is the genetive (possessive) plural form of the word seculum, meaning generation, century, or age.
Taken from wikipedia.com, but universally true.
NOVUS ORDO SECLORUM = A New Order of the World -or- New Order of the Ages
E PLURIBUS UNUM = From many, one
EDIT: The word seclorum does not mean "secular," as one might assume, but is the genetive (possessive) plural form of the word seculum, meaning generation, century, or age.
Taken from wikipedia.com, but universally true.
Gunslinger08
Lifer
If it is, then they don't have an explicit right to use it for religious purposes.
However, this can be bypassed by allowing for every religious group who requests a prayer/message over the PA. You may not like Italian food, and they play a blurb for a local Italian joint over the PA. How is this different? People blow up the separation of church and state too much.. this wasn't what it was intended for. It's meant to ensure that an oppressive government can't endorse a particular religion as a required religion of the State.
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No, i asked you a question that you refused to answer, twice, and then stated fact.
Wallydraigle
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Churches shouldn't be allowed to signs on them, that way people who don't believe don't even have to know that they're there. Yesterday I was walking on a public sidewalk and I saw this sign for a church that had times on it to come and worship J---s. It was insulting, how can they cram their beliefs down my throat like that? It had the J word on it and everything.
Also water skiing should be outlawed because it looks like people walking on water. Keep that garbage where it belongs.
Also water skiing should be outlawed because it looks like people walking on water. Keep that garbage where it belongs.
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You translated that wrong but good for you anyway.
KarenMarie
Elite Member
the Constitution does not mention, speak to or ask for a wall of separation of church and state. A judge named Hugo Black put it in a decision he made... Everson vs,. BOE 1947... and others since have used it as a precedence. Teachers put this in the ciriculum and it is taught to ppl as if it were really in the Constitution. But it is not.
daniel1113
Diamond Member
Not according to every true translation. Nice try.
This statement alone shows that you have no idea what you are talking about. If you had even studied 1% of Biblical documents/history/culture and the elements that make up the bible and compared them to the mythos/history and background of greek gods you wouldn't make such a ignorant, blind and fanatical statement.
I can pretty much guarantee that you have neither 1) read the Bible in its entirety even once 2) studied enough of Biblical history to even start making educated conjectures on the Bible/Christianity.
Yes I could sit here and debate such things with you - but from your repsonses it seems you are neither open minded to a true debate or willing to research anything significant behind your lame hypotheses.
Or you can just run real quick to some lame "counter Christian" logic website which claims they know the logical "attacks" against Christianty and try to copy/paste those arguments. For some reason tho - I think trying to have a genuine debate with you would be pointless
Gunslinger08
Lifer
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novus_Ordo_Seclorum
The word seclorum does not mean "secular," as one might assume, but is the genetive (possessive) plural form of the word seculum, meaning generation, century, or age.
Cerpin Taxt
Lifer
This is certainly true, but the problem is that too many Christians like Paul Harvey distort the events which clearly separate church and state into some kind of false, state-led persecution. They shout slogans like "Let God back into the classroom!" -- but no one ever told them they couldn't bring their religions to school with them. They just can't get the teacher to endorse their Christian God in particular, because in doing so they've immediately told little Hazem and little Samir that their gods aren't equally important or welcome. That's not to mention little April who doesn't believe in any god and doesn't want to, but knows enough to know that god-believers look upon her disfavorably. Can't the Paul Harveys of the world put themselves in the others' shoes for a second? Do you think he'd be so eager to send his children to a school where the students were each given prayer rugs, and every day after lunch the teacher stopped class so that everyone could face Mecca and pray Dhuhr?
I'll defend your right to practice your religion in public with equal vigor that I'll defend the rights of students not to have to endure teacher-led prayers that only serve to make them feel like second-class citizens when the prayer is directed to a God that he and his family don't believe in.
-Garth
Wallydraigle
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Twice :Q
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Hmmmmmmmm........ I went to a christian school and yes have read and studied the bible. I also know that by the bible geneoligy the world is little over 5000 years old. Now we can prove that jessus was a real man, but no one can prove his holyness. Unfortunatly in the same way that we can prove jessus we can prove that the people that wrote the greeks scriptures are real also. Though both are real people, neither is proof of a god. The bible is supposed to be a text that states history from the start of the world. They have no mention of dinosours or any of the older animals, species. Why is that?
I have deep religios conversations with people face to face, but i enjoy to flame online. Still, you didnt answer my question.
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