I remember some asshat complaining about religion threads the other day

[daniel1113]

Originally posted by: Last Rezort

Originally posted by: Ozoned

Originally posted by: Orsorum


And, yes, I noticed that you appeared to talk to yourself. 😕

I think that the boy is handling himself quite well, Considering his condition

I dont get what you mean. I had fun, good for me. Will any of you answer my question? I have read and studied the bible. I went to a christian school. Dont try and side step.

I went to a Christian school for a year, too. And if there was one thing I learned while attending that school, it was that 90% of the students were there either because they were forced by their parents or kicked out of public schools. It is hardly a way of proving that you somehow know Christians and Christianity.

 

[Gunslinger08]

Originally posted by: lobadobadingdong

Originally posted by: daniel1113
Still wasting your time with someone that has the following non-sense in his signature?

Afraid of hell? Looking for a way to justify killing other people?
Join a religion(or become a republican)!

You can trust the government, just ask the indians!

Don't you blame them for being on our land before we got here like the rest of us?

They were just keeping it warm for us.. we so totally called fives on America back in the Pangea days.

 

[Ozoned]

Originally posted by: shilala

Originally posted by: Ozoned

Originally posted by: Last Rezort

Originally posted by: Ozoned
Last Rezort . I am curious...What life altering event caused you to form such a strong opinion against people that profess to believe in some sort of religion?

I went to school and learned how to read.

Was it a religious school by any chance?🙁

No, it was a carpentry school where they drilled a hole in his head and sucked what was left of his "BB in a bathtub" brain out.
You're doing battle with a toaster pastry here, Ozoned. It's futile.

I enjoy Last Rezorts banter. 🙂

 

[Ozoned]

Originally posted by: Engineer

Originally posted by: Ozoned

Originally posted by: Engineer

Originally posted by: Ozoned

Originally posted by: Engineer
My opinion on gays, lesbians, Christians, Muslims, etc. Do your own thing but don't try to force it upon me. Simple as that. You don't bother me...I don't bother you. Live and let live. You try to "force" your views upon me, you can shove them up your....

Wow, are you Paul Harvey?🙂

Ummm.....could be! :Q

😛

Nope, I was informed that you were Nick Gholson.😕

Sorry, don't know who that is. Goes to Yahoo to look...

DOH. It was the guy you were quoting...😱

😱😱😱

I found the edit button. 😛

 

[Ozoned]

Originally posted by: Last Rezort


I dont get what you mean. I had fun, good for me. Will any of you answer my question? I have read and studied the bible. I went to a christian school. Dont try and side step.

What the hell was the question?

 

[Last Rezort]

Originally posted by: joshsquall

Originally posted by: Last Rezort

Originally posted by: joshsquall

Originally posted by: Last Rezort

Originally posted by: daniel1113
ANNUIT COEPTIS = He [God] has favored our undertaking
NOVUS ORDO SECLORUM = A New Order of the World -or- New Order of the Ages
E PLURIBUS UNUM = From many, one

You translated that wrong but good for you anyway.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novus_Ordo_Seclorum

The word seclorum does not mean "secular," as one might assume, but is the genetive (possessive) plural form of the word seculum, meaning generation, century, or age.

I am proved wrong. No answer my question.

There's nothing more feasible about the Christian God. Feasibility is not what religion is about. The issue that every atheist has with religion is that it isn't logical... which is exactly the premise of religion. It's about belief in something larger than the individual, the group, the nation, the world, and the universe, without proof. It's not something you even consciously decide... "hey, that God looks good. *ding* I believe in him." All religions with Gods are faith-based. You either believe, or you don't. You can take logical steps towards belief in each God, but there are no accepted rules of logic which will bring you to a conclusion, God or no God. So either you accept that, or you don't.

Thats all i was looking for. I respect that answer. I just cant stand people like ozone that bring it up all the time and try to shove it down our throats. Its like gay people, i dont hate gay people, i hate fags that try to shove their gayness down peoples throats.
I dont care what you do just keep it to yourself. Stop preaching.

 

[Orsorum]

Originally posted by: daniel1113
I went to a Christian school for a year, too. And if there was one thing I learned while attending that school, it was that 90% of the students were there either because they were forced by their parents or kicked out of public schools. It is hardly a way of proving that you somehow know Christians and Christianity.

How can he prove that he knows Christians and Christianity, then?

I was a Christian for three years of my life, I've been agnostic for the past three. I will tell you openly that I saw my faith in a particular light as a Christian and as an ex-Christian, that I do harbor some bitterness towards the faith, largely because I could never just let myself believe. I was a doubter and I still am. That does not preclude me from having first-hand knowledge of Christianity, of having a wide circle of devout Christian friends, or of having some in-depth knowledge of the Christian scriptures.

 

[Last Rezort]

Originally posted by: daniel1113

Originally posted by: Last Rezort

Originally posted by: Ozoned

Originally posted by: Orsorum


And, yes, I noticed that you appeared to talk to yourself. 😕

I think that the boy is handling himself quite well, Considering his condition

I dont get what you mean. I had fun, good for me. Will any of you answer my question? I have read and studied the bible. I went to a christian school. Dont try and side step.

I went to a Christian school for a year, too. And if there was one thing I learned while attending that school, it was that 90% of the students were there either because they were forced by their parents or kicked out of public schools. It is hardly a way of proving that you somehow know Christians and Christianity.

Read your post and tell me how it disproves i know the christian religion.

 

[EatSpam]

Lame. :thumbsdown:

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

Originally posted by: Greyd

In addition your assumption that the Bible was written to show the history from the beginning of the world is wrong. That was NOT the purpose of the Bible. If you had truly studied the Bible in depth - you would know that. Knowing this you would understand why the Bible doesn't detail nature and its occurences - because THATS not the PURPOSE of the Bible. Additionally, some argue that there are "references" to dinosaurs in the Bible (Leviathan) but again the reason you don't see a detailed account of them is the same reason you don't see a detailed account of how people farmed land,etc in the Bible. Because that is NOT the PURPOSE.

Says you. I can show you plenty of Christians that believe exactly what he presumed, so his presumption is not baseless. Obviously, you're entitled to your opinion, just like the Christians I mentioned are entitled to theirs, but you're not entitled to your own facts.

Besides, who are you to decide what the purpose of the Bible is? Isn't that God's call? I'm gonna go out on a little bit of a limb and guess that you're not God, so you don't get to say what the Bible's purpose is.

At any rate, it sure seems like the Bible can be reasonably interpreted in exactly the manner that he presumed, your protestations notwithstanding.

-Garth

 

[conjur]

If there is some supernatural, omniscience, omnipresent, omnipotent being, I seriously doubt he gives a flying fvck about one country on one planet in one solar system of an average galaxy out of the billions out there.

Humans are arrogant creatures.

 

[Ozoned]

Originally posted by: Orsorum

Originally posted by: daniel1113
I went to a Christian school for a year, too. And if there was one thing I learned while attending that school, it was that 90% of the students were there either because they were forced by their parents or kicked out of public schools. It is hardly a way of proving that you somehow know Christians and Christianity.

How can he prove that he knows Christians and Christianity, then?

I was a Christian for three years of my life, I've been agnostic for the past three. I will tell you openly that I saw my faith in a particular light as a Christian and as an ex-Christian, that I do harbor some bitterness towards the faith, largely because I could never just let myself believe. I was a doubter and I still am. That does not preclude me from having first-hand knowledge of Christianity, of having a wide circle of devout Christian friends, or of having some in-depth knowledge of the Christian scriptures.

Shall I post My favorite Orsorum post? 🙂

 

[Last Rezort]

Originally posted by: lobadobadingdong

Originally posted by: daniel1113
Still wasting your time with someone that has the following non-sense in his signature?

Afraid of hell? Looking for a way to justify killing other people?
Join a religion(or become a republican)!

You can trust the government, just ask the indians!

Don't you blame them for being on our land before we got here like the rest of us?

Umm...... you can tell by my sig i dont. Was that supposed to be funny?

 

[Greyd]

Originally posted by: Last Rezort

Originally posted by: daniel1113

Originally posted by: Last Rezort

Originally posted by: Ozoned

Originally posted by: Orsorum


And, yes, I noticed that you appeared to talk to yourself. 😕

I think that the boy is handling himself quite well, Considering his condition

I dont get what you mean. I had fun, good for me. Will any of you answer my question? I have read and studied the bible. I went to a christian school. Dont try and side step.

I went to a Christian school for a year, too. And if there was one thing I learned while attending that school, it was that 90% of the students were there either because they were forced by their parents or kicked out of public schools. It is hardly a way of proving that you somehow know Christians and Christianity.

Read your post and tell me how it disproves i know the christian religion.

Its not that you don't know aspects of the christian religion - but that you don't know it in depth or well enough to make the claims and assert the arguments/debates that you claim to in your posts.

 

[Gunslinger08]

Originally posted by: Ozoned

Originally posted by: Orsorum

Originally posted by: daniel1113
I went to a Christian school for a year, too. And if there was one thing I learned while attending that school, it was that 90% of the students were there either because they were forced by their parents or kicked out of public schools. It is hardly a way of proving that you somehow know Christians and Christianity.

How can he prove that he knows Christians and Christianity, then?

I was a Christian for three years of my life, I've been agnostic for the past three. I will tell you openly that I saw my faith in a particular light as a Christian and as an ex-Christian, that I do harbor some bitterness towards the faith, largely because I could never just let myself believe. I was a doubter and I still am. That does not preclude me from having first-hand knowledge of Christianity, of having a wide circle of devout Christian friends, or of having some in-depth knowledge of the Christian scriptures.

Shall I post My favorite Orsorum post? 🙂

Please do. I'd like to see it.

 

[Orsorum]

Originally posted by: joshsquall

Originally posted by: Ozoned

Originally posted by: Orsorum

Originally posted by: daniel1113
I went to a Christian school for a year, too. And if there was one thing I learned while attending that school, it was that 90% of the students were there either because they were forced by their parents or kicked out of public schools. It is hardly a way of proving that you somehow know Christians and Christianity.

How can he prove that he knows Christians and Christianity, then?

I was a Christian for three years of my life, I've been agnostic for the past three. I will tell you openly that I saw my faith in a particular light as a Christian and as an ex-Christian, that I do harbor some bitterness towards the faith, largely because I could never just let myself believe. I was a doubter and I still am. That does not preclude me from having first-hand knowledge of Christianity, of having a wide circle of devout Christian friends, or of having some in-depth knowledge of the Christian scriptures.

Shall I post My favorite Orsorum post? 🙂

Please do. I'd like to see it.

Awww, great, now I'm nervous. 😱 That's what I get for posting on here for going on four years now.

 

[Ozoned]

Originally posted by: Last Rezort

Thats all i was looking for. I respect that answer. I just cant stand people like ozone that bring it up all the time and try to shove it down our throats. Its like gay people, i dont hate gay people, i hate fags that try to shove their gayness down peoples throats.
I dont care what you do just keep it to yourself. Stop preaching.[/quote]
If you don't want dogcrap on your shoes, why in the world would you jump into a big steaming pile of it?

 

[Last Rezort]

Originally posted by: Garth

Originally posted by: Greyd

In addition your assumption that the Bible was written to show the history from the beginning of the world is wrong. That was NOT the purpose of the Bible. If you had truly studied the Bible in depth - you would know that. Knowing this you would understand why the Bible doesn't detail nature and its occurences - because THATS not the PURPOSE of the Bible. Additionally, some argue that there are "references" to dinosaurs in the Bible (Leviathan) but again the reason you don't see a detailed account of them is the same reason you don't see a detailed account of how people farmed land,etc in the Bible. Because that is NOT the PURPOSE.

Says you. I can show you plenty of Christians that believe exactly what he presumed, so his presumption is not baseless. Obviously, you're entitled to your opinion, just like the Christians I mentioned are entitled to theirs, but you're not entitled to your own facts.

Besides, who are you to decide what the purpose of the Bible is? Isn't that God's call? I'm gonna go out on a little bit of a limb and guess that you're not God, so you don't get to say what the Bible's purpose is.

At any rate, it sure seems like the Bible can be reasonably interpreted in exactly the manner that he presumed, your protestations notwithstanding.

-Garth

Still, we can prove that the world is millions of years old, and by the bible (or so says a few priests, like the one opening the museum), the world is like only 5000 year old.

 

[Greyd]

Originally posted by: Garth

Originally posted by: Greyd

In addition your assumption that the Bible was written to show the history from the beginning of the world is wrong. That was NOT the purpose of the Bible. If you had truly studied the Bible in depth - you would know that. Knowing this you would understand why the Bible doesn't detail nature and its occurences - because THATS not the PURPOSE of the Bible. Additionally, some argue that there are "references" to dinosaurs in the Bible (Leviathan) but again the reason you don't see a detailed account of them is the same reason you don't see a detailed account of how people farmed land,etc in the Bible. Because that is NOT the PURPOSE.

Says you. I can show you plenty of Christians that believe exactly what he presumed, so his presumption is not baseless. Obviously, you're entitled to your opinion, just like the Christians I mentioned are entitled to theirs, but you're not entitled to your own facts.

Besides, who are you to decide what the purpose of the Bible is? Isn't that God's call? I'm gonna go out on a little bit of a limb and guess that you're not God, so you don't get to say what the Bible's purpose is.

At any rate, it sure seems like the Bible can be reasonably interpreted in exactly the manner that he presumed, your protestations notwithstanding.

-Garth

Actually it is stated very directly in the Bible - the purpose of the Scriptures. Not my assumption - its what God says. I'm making a very general statement and oversimplifying because there are so many different layers to the general overarching purpose.

Yes people can interpret how they like. But when those interpretations don't coincide with other aspects of the Bible - then you have a problem.

When I studied English in college one thing that always bothered me was the wide berth the department gave to "personal" interpretations of literary works. Yes these interpretation were interesting and insightful and fun. Some of the were very well researched,etc. But when it comes down to it - the author wrote it for a specific reason. Doesn't mean you can't read into it or interpret as you like - but its still not what the author meant.

 

[Last Rezort]

Originally posted by: Ozoned

Originally posted by: Last Rezort

Thats all i was looking for. I respect that answer. I just cant stand people like ozone that bring it up all the time and try to shove it down our throats. Its like gay people, i dont hate gay people, i hate fags that try to shove their gayness down peoples throats.
I dont care what you do just keep it to yourself. Stop preaching.

If you don't want dogcrap on your shoes, why in the world would you jump into a big steaming pile of it?
[/quote]

Like flaming with you? To anoy.

 

[kogase]

Originally posted by: Ozoned

Originally posted by: Last Rezort

Thats all i was looking for. I respect that answer. I just cant stand people like ozone that bring it up all the time and try to shove it down our throats. Its like gay people, i dont hate gay people, i hate fags that try to shove their gayness down peoples throats.
I dont care what you do just keep it to yourself. Stop preaching.

If you don't want dogcrap on your shoes, why in the world would you jump into a big steaming pile of it?
[/quote]

So... what's the big steaming pile you're referring to? A football game? While I'd be inclined to agree with you, I think we'd have different reasons. I still think it's a reasonable expectation, however, that when I jump in a big steaming pile of dog#$!@ I don't come back with my feet covered in bull#$!@.

 

[daniel1113]

Originally posted by: Last Rezort

Originally posted by: Garth

Originally posted by: Greyd

In addition your assumption that the Bible was written to show the history from the beginning of the world is wrong. That was NOT the purpose of the Bible. If you had truly studied the Bible in depth - you would know that. Knowing this you would understand why the Bible doesn't detail nature and its occurences - because THATS not the PURPOSE of the Bible. Additionally, some argue that there are "references" to dinosaurs in the Bible (Leviathan) but again the reason you don't see a detailed account of them is the same reason you don't see a detailed account of how people farmed land,etc in the Bible. Because that is NOT the PURPOSE.

Says you. I can show you plenty of Christians that believe exactly what he presumed, so his presumption is not baseless. Obviously, you're entitled to your opinion, just like the Christians I mentioned are entitled to theirs, but you're not entitled to your own facts.

Besides, who are you to decide what the purpose of the Bible is? Isn't that God's call? I'm gonna go out on a little bit of a limb and guess that you're not God, so you don't get to say what the Bible's purpose is.

At any rate, it sure seems like the Bible can be reasonably interpreted in exactly the manner that he presumed, your protestations notwithstanding.

-Garth

Still, we can prove that the world is millions of years old, and by the bible (or so says a few priests, like the one opening the museum), the world is like only 5000 year old.

Not quite... you are assuming that time is the same for both mortals and God 🙂

 

[Last Rezort]

Originally posted by: Greyd

Originally posted by: Garth

Originally posted by: Greyd

In addition your assumption that the Bible was written to show the history from the beginning of the world is wrong. That was NOT the purpose of the Bible. If you had truly studied the Bible in depth - you would know that. Knowing this you would understand why the Bible doesn't detail nature and its occurences - because THATS not the PURPOSE of the Bible. Additionally, some argue that there are "references" to dinosaurs in the Bible (Leviathan) but again the reason you don't see a detailed account of them is the same reason you don't see a detailed account of how people farmed land,etc in the Bible. Because that is NOT the PURPOSE.

Says you. I can show you plenty of Christians that believe exactly what he presumed, so his presumption is not baseless. Obviously, you're entitled to your opinion, just like the Christians I mentioned are entitled to theirs, but you're not entitled to your own facts.

Besides, who are you to decide what the purpose of the Bible is? Isn't that God's call? I'm gonna go out on a little bit of a limb and guess that you're not God, so you don't get to say what the Bible's purpose is.

At any rate, it sure seems like the Bible can be reasonably interpreted in exactly the manner that he presumed, your protestations notwithstanding.

-Garth

Actually it is stated very directly in the Bible - the purpose of the Scriptures. Not my assumption - its what God says. I'm making a very general statement and oversimplifying because there are so many different layers to the general overarching purpose.

Yes people can interpret how they like. But when those interpretations don't coincide with other aspects of the Bible - then you have a problem.

When I studied English in college one thing that always bothered me was the wide berth the department gave to "personal" interpretations of literary works. Yes these interpretation were interesting and insightful and fun. Some of the were very well researched,etc. But when it comes down to it - the author wrote it for a specific reason. Doesn't mean you can't read into it or interpret as you like - but its still not what the author meant.

Well enlighten us, what has god told you? Wait......

 

[Greyd]

Originally posted by: Last Rezort

Originally posted by: Garth

Originally posted by: Greyd

In addition your assumption that the Bible was written to show the history from the beginning of the world is wrong. That was NOT the purpose of the Bible. If you had truly studied the Bible in depth - you would know that. Knowing this you would understand why the Bible doesn't detail nature and its occurences - because THATS not the PURPOSE of the Bible. Additionally, some argue that there are "references" to dinosaurs in the Bible (Leviathan) but again the reason you don't see a detailed account of them is the same reason you don't see a detailed account of how people farmed land,etc in the Bible. Because that is NOT the PURPOSE.

Says you. I can show you plenty of Christians that believe exactly what he presumed, so his presumption is not baseless. Obviously, you're entitled to your opinion, just like the Christians I mentioned are entitled to theirs, but you're not entitled to your own facts.

Besides, who are you to decide what the purpose of the Bible is? Isn't that God's call? I'm gonna go out on a little bit of a limb and guess that you're not God, so you don't get to say what the Bible's purpose is.

At any rate, it sure seems like the Bible can be reasonably interpreted in exactly the manner that he presumed, your protestations notwithstanding.

-Garth

Still, we can prove that the world is millions of years old, and by the bible (or so says a few priests, like the one opening the museum), the world is like only 5000 year old.

Dating using Scriptures is an EXTREMELY hotly debated topic. There are many different camps even in the Christian community. There are numerous theories that support both the "young" and "old" world hypothesis.

On that aspect - I'm still studying and researching.

 

[Last Rezort]

Originally posted by: daniel1113

Originally posted by: Last Rezort

Originally posted by: Garth

Originally posted by: Greyd

In addition your assumption that the Bible was written to show the history from the beginning of the world is wrong. That was NOT the purpose of the Bible. If you had truly studied the Bible in depth - you would know that. Knowing this you would understand why the Bible doesn't detail nature and its occurences - because THATS not the PURPOSE of the Bible. Additionally, some argue that there are "references" to dinosaurs in the Bible (Leviathan) but again the reason you don't see a detailed account of them is the same reason you don't see a detailed account of how people farmed land,etc in the Bible. Because that is NOT the PURPOSE.

Says you. I can show you plenty of Christians that believe exactly what he presumed, so his presumption is not baseless. Obviously, you're entitled to your opinion, just like the Christians I mentioned are entitled to theirs, but you're not entitled to your own facts.

Besides, who are you to decide what the purpose of the Bible is? Isn't that God's call? I'm gonna go out on a little bit of a limb and guess that you're not God, so you don't get to say what the Bible's purpose is.

At any rate, it sure seems like the Bible can be reasonably interpreted in exactly the manner that he presumed, your protestations notwithstanding.

-Garth

Still, we can prove that the world is millions of years old, and by the bible (or so says a few priests, like the one opening the museum), the world is like only 5000 year old.

Not quite... you are assuming that time is the same for both mortals and God 🙂

Im not, the preacher is. I did not come up with this. Through bible geneoligy, the world that we know it, starting with adam and eve, is 5000 years old.