I received this email from the school today.

Casawi

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Hello Students! I want to give you a brief update on the Michigan Drivers License ruling effective last week. I?ve been in contact with the Michigan Secretary of State?s Office and want to share the clarification I?ve received.

· If you already have a Michigan Driver?s License ? great!

· If it expires, you will NOT be able to renew it until further legislation is passed

· If you have a license from another US state, you may drive on it (as long as it is valid)

If you have a valid (unexpired) driver?s license from one of the countries listed below, you can drive on it ??An international driving permit is not required for residents of these countries to drive in the U.S. However, without an international driving permit, an interpreter may be required to determine the license?s validity if it was not issued in English.?

· Unfortunately, if you do not have a valid driver?s license issued by either Michigan, another US state or one of the countries listed below, you can NOT legally drive while here in Michigan.

Albania
Algeria
Argentina
Australia
Austria
Bahamas
Bangladesh
Barbados
Belgium
Belize
Benin
Botswana
Brazil
Bulgaria
Cambodia
Canada
Central African Rep.
Chile
China (Taiwan)
Colombia
Congo
Congo Democratic Rep.
Costa Rica
Cote d?Ivoire
Cuba
Cyprus
Czech Rep.
Denmark
Dominican Rep.
Ecuador
Egypt
Fiji
Finland
France
France
Gambia
Georgia
Germany
Ghana
Greece
Grenada
Guatemala
Guyana
Haiti
Honduras
Hong Kong
Hungary
Iceland
India
Ireland
Israel
Italy
Jamaica
Japan
Jordan
Korea
Kyrgyz Rep.
Laos
Lebanon
Lesotho
Luxembourg
Macao
Madagascar
Malawi
Malaysia
Mali
Mexico
Nicaragua
Panama
Uruguay

Currently, there is much discussion and controversy over this; however, it is likely to be months before this issue is resolved. We will continue to monitor the situation and keep you informed of any additional changes or clarifications.

This is some serious BS.... Idon't think its real. My country is not on the list and have been drive in this country for 7 year, and my license will expire this year.
Do they expect me to sell my car and ride a bike in the winter?
Is Michigan loosing its mind ?

Update: Email from the school.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

The overwhelming support by universities, business and the legal community has lead to the amended bill that will continue to allow international students and scholars to apply for original driver?s licenses. Today, the Senate passed unanimously (38 - 0) and the House passed almost unanimously (a handful of no votes) legislation that will make clear that those in Michigan legally are eligible for a Michigan drivers license.

House Bill 4505 will now be transmitted to Governor Granholm. We expect her to sign the legislation tomorrow. Since Monday is President's Day (a state holiday) it is likely the earliest the Secretary of State will be able to begin issuing drivers licenses under the new law will be next Tuesday, February 19.

The passed version of HB 4505 can be found here:

http://www.legislature.mi.gov/...bjectName=2007-HB-4505

Please let me know if you have any questions or comments.
 

Casawi

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If this goes down, I will drive illegally and break every got damn rule until I am deported or whatever they wanna do with me.
 

Casawi

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I have no idea how they selected countries. I mean what is the difference between Algeria and Morocco? whatever that what happens when you put idiot in offices to make rules.
 

Casawi

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Originally posted by: tanishalfelven
or you could just use the bus system for a few months and not risk your future.

I work and go to school in two different towns man. I drive like an hour on Mondays and Wed for classes.
 

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I am honestly surprised that they let anyone with a foreign license drive legally in that state. That is scary as hell. I know for a fact that driving in India is nothing like driving in the US.

You can't just go down to the DMV and get a license? The test could not be easier. I don't really know how it works though.
 

Casawi

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Now I regret coming here legally. Because the other 10 friends I came here with, all were here at some point illegally and have their green cards now, they fake or paid for their marriage to get. None of them have a college degree, and here I am, did every got damn thing right ... now you tell me I can't even drive.
 

Casawi

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Originally posted by: ades
I am honestly surprised that they let anyone with a foreign license drive legally in that state. That is scary as hell. I know for a fact that driving in India is nothing like driving in the US.

You can't just go down to the DMV and get a license? The test could not be easier. I don't really know how it works though.

I never drove in my own country, I learned how to drive here. I got my license here when I turned 18 in 2001.
 

ades

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Oh I gotcha. I misread the OP. Come to think of it, that is some BS legislation. Sorry bud.
 

torpid

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If your country is not on the list then you can still get an international driver's permit. That is considered a valid license I believe. The countries listed are ones where the individual country's license is honored in the US.

The weirdest part of this is that you can't renew a license... WTF?!
 

boomerang

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If you're here legally, you should have no problems getting your license renewed. If you'd followed the news, you'd know that this issue was a mis-interpretation of the law by the Michigan Secretary of State and is being corrected.

http://www.detnews.com/apps/pb.../METRO/802060468&imw=Y

If you're not here legally, I have no sympathy for you and suggest you get the hell out of Michigan and the country right now. Go break the law in your own country.
 

torpid

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Wow, that is some serious misrepresentation of fact being sent to the OP based on boomerang's link.
 

BoomerD

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Originally posted by: Casawi
If this goes down, I will drive illegally and break every got damn rule until I am deported or whatever they wanna do with me.

And you will deserve to be deported.

As stupid as this law seems to be, you can't ignore laws without expecting to suffer repercussions if you get caught. It especially bothers me when "visitors" to my country act like they're too fucking good to obey the laws here, even when they don't seem to make sense.
Don't like the laws in this country? LEAVE.
(after all, it's not like we have some obligation to provide an education to citizens of a foreign country, nor make our laws to suit them)
 

destrekor

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I'm not quite sure what that whole thing means, but honestly, I think no foreign licenses should be accepted as a legal driving license. Personally, I feel the law should call for a time period where you can (until your license expires), and then you get a new license.

What is happening with this Michigan case? Are you not permitted to get an international permit or something?

oh, and if you want to claim you will drive illegally and ignore U.S. laws, then GTFO. Seriously. I am in complete agreement with BoomerD's post (up two posts). I will be open with my support for any law that prevents illegals from basically being able to live in this country. It's not hard to get proper paperwork for legal residency.
 

Xavier434

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I am too lazy to find proof but I would not believe that e-mail until you confirm those details. Don't get your panties all tied up in a knot until you really find out for sure what is going on.
 

techs

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This sounds like it is caused by the new anti-terrorism laws. Maybe Michigan hasn't been able to comply yet, or there is some other problem with the system.