I predict beastiality will be the next boundary to be crossed

[Ichinisan]

Polygamy and beastiality shouldn't be illegal (not saying they should be encouraged either.)

Who, really, is injured by either practice? What harm do they cause?

Morality shouldn't be legislated.

Beastiality has been known to harm the entire human race by allowing certain diseases to be transmitted that otherwise would not have been.


Is OP really comparing homosexuality to beastiality?

 

[middlehead]

It's actually going the opposite direction; more places are realizing that they don't specifically have beastiality illegal right now and are making it so.

 

[MoMeanMugs]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bUoeYAEDUo

 

[SMOGZINN]

The poly thing just seems like a giant legal mess to me.

If there are three partners, how do you decide on important medical decisions if there isn't total agreement?

If one of the wives wants a divorce how do you handle property and shared assets?

So many financial applications and beneficiary forms are setup as a single spouse as the primary with other dependents being available. They would have to be re-written or you'd have to pick your favorite wife

Divorces can be messy enough as it is, I can't even imagine the mess throwing a third into the mix would make.

It is a legal mess, but none of those are unsolvable. In fact there is a large poly community solving those issues right now. If there was a legal will to do so the poly community could readily provide several templates for society to consider.

 

[Newell Steamer]

Don't forget;
- earthquakes
- fire from the skies
- eating children (back from the Crusades,... yet, no gay marriage back then,..)
- murdering Christians (deaths by invading countries count as murder - those non-Christians shouldn't have defended themselves)
- incest and pedophilia (by non-Christians)

 

[Nograts]

I agree with the OP.

It appears that the new marketing scheme for things is:

A) Introduce it 5-10 years prior to the actual generation you plan on targeting.

B) Make it 'bigoted' or 'raysist' or 'unayscaptipable' to be against said topic by the time that generation is 10-15 years old or, able to taint social media.

C) Profit: New generation is now tolerant of whatever you want it to be.

My goal is to make American's donate 25% of their income to the elderly because they lead the way as far as politico kind of bullcrap or what not. 'Insert inspirational message and/or graphic here'. Go ahead and donate a dollar to my gofundme.com website: elevenpog.com/walletfund

Fuckin win bro.

I'll see you all in hell.

 

[JulesMaximus]

homosexuality is now a norm in culture and society.

bestiality is the next frontier.
when will we see hints of it on network/cable tv? or even in major movies?

Um, no. :thumbsdown:

It should be illegal if it isn't already.

 

[Eug]

As others have implied, I think the OP is just trying justify his current lifestyle.

Every baby conceived is a female (any why men have nipples).

Not really. That statement is what happens when reporters dumb down science too much.

 

[Nograts]

Um, no. :thumbsdown:

It should be illegal if it isn't already.

You freaking bigot, how dare you tread on these goat lovers' rights. They're humans and (somewhat kind of goats) but humans after all.

 

[OutHouse]

It is a legal mess, but none of those are unsolvable. In fact there is a large poly community solving those issues right now. If there was a legal will to do so the poly community could readily provide several templates for society to consider.

lets be clear there is a big difference between polygamy and poly. they are different lifestyles and using poly to refer to polygamy confuses people.

 

[nageov3t]

Beastiality has been known to harm the entire human race by allowing certain diseases to be transmitted that otherwise would not have been.


Is OP really comparing homosexuality to beastiality?

in defense of bestiality -- and I never thought I'd ever have to use those words -- if it weren't for our "special" relationship with animals, our European ancestors never would have been able to wipe out the native people in the Americas and none of us would exist today.

 

[OutHouse]

in defense of bestiality -- and I never thought I'd ever have to use those words -- if it weren't for our "special" relationship with animals, our European ancestors never would have been able to wipe out the native people in the Americas and none of us would exist today.

errr what?

 

[SMOGZINN]

I agree with the OP.

It appears that the new marketing scheme for things is:

A) Introduce it 5-10 years prior to the actual generation you plan on targeting.

B) Make it 'bigoted' or 'raysist' or 'unayscaptipable' to be against said topic by the time that generation is 10-15 years old or, able to taint social media.

C) Profit: New generation is now tolerant of whatever you want it to be.

My goal is to make American's donate 25% of their income to the elderly because they lead the way as far as politico kind of bullcrap or what not. 'Insert inspirational message and/or graphic here'. Go ahead and donate a dollar to my gofundme.com website: elevenpog.com/walletfund

Fuckin win bro.

I'll see you all in hell.

Except there is one thing you are missing, the thing you want people to be tolerant of must be genuinely discriminating. The method you are listed have been tried for any number of things and failed. The reason is that is failed the primary requirement, it must be something that harms people.

 

[nageov3t]

errr what?

it's theorized that a prime reason the Europeans carried (and were resistent) to many diseases while the native Americans weren't (and thus, got wiped out by disease and plagues after the first visits of Europeans (discounting those random viking explorers)) is because Europeans lived much more closely with animals.

 

[JulesMaximus]

You freaking bigot, how dare you tread on these goat lovers' rights. They're humans and (somewhat kind of goats) but humans after all.

Trolling really doesn't become you. :hmm:

 

[vi edit]

It is a legal mess, but none of those are unsolvable. In fact there is a large poly community solving those issues right now. If there was a legal will to do so the poly community could readily provide several templates for society to consider.

It just seems overly complicated and room for a lot of abuse. How about insurance benefits? If a husband has 4 wives that don't work, should his employer be on the hook to cover all 4 of their medical expenses?

I'm not opposed poly relationships on a moral level. If it's consensual and not harming others, more power to you. But it requires so many additional rules and special considerations I just question if it's really the right thing to do on a legal level. Allowing gays to marry really doesn't break any formulas, forms, or concepts of the legal perception of marriage. Adding another spouse in requires the whole system to be rewrote. It's a question of utility for me. It just seems like a giant amount of work for a relatively small population of people.

 

[SMOGZINN]

lets be clear there is a big difference between polygamy and poly. they are different lifestyles and using poly to refer to polygamy confuses people.

Polygamy refers to the legal institute of being able to marry multiple people.
Polyamory refers to the lifestyle choice of loving multiple people.

The polyamous community would like the option to become polygamous.

 

[zinfamous]

Every baby conceived is a female (any why men have nipples). Nature is not perfect and some babies are born having attractions to the same sex.

I never heard of a baby being born that has an innate sexual attraction to an animal.

...so that y chromosome that either is or isn't present at fertilization, never really is present until some yet-undisclosed time in development?

Not sure how you misinterpreted this one so poorly.


I assume what you are trying to say is that all fetus develop "as a female" in the early stages, which is true (the penis is nothing more than an extended clitoris). ...But we also have gills, so you might as well claim that "Every baby conceived is a fish."

Regardless, the blastocyst is either female or male based on the sperm carrying either an x or y...or, well, it does get a bit tricky in some rare cases. But sex is more or less determined at the beginning.

 

[tweakmonkey]

Having sex with people always leads to having sex with animals. Good argument here.

 

[Murloc]

It's actually going the opposite direction; more places are realizing that they don't specifically have beastiality illegal right now and are making it so.

this, animals rights are going strong.

Animals can't choose.

It is a legal mess, but none of those are unsolvable. In fact there is a large poly community solving those issues right now. If there was a legal will to do so the poly community could readily provide several templates for society to consider.

honestly I've never heard about this other than on this forum, I don't think this issue will ever see the light of the day given the small numbers.

 

[DigDog]

kinda hard for a sheep to give consent

 

[glenn1]

it's theorized that a prime reason the Europeans carried (and were resistent) to many diseases while the native Americans weren't (and thus, got wiped out by disease and plagues after the first visits of Europeans (discounting those random viking explorers)) is because Europeans lived much more closely with animals.

There may be only a few centimeters physical distance between your reproductive organs when you're "living closely with animals" compared to "having sex with an animal" but the gap is light years in any other sense.

 

[SMOGZINN]

Having sex with people always leads to having sex with animals. Good argument here.

People are animals too!

 

[SMOGZINN]

honestly I've never heard about this other than on this forum, I don't think this issue will ever see the light of the day given the small numbers.

The numbers are not as small as you would think, they are mostly just still in the closet. The numbers are growing and the coming out movement is starting to gain traction. In the next few years you are going to hear a lot more about it.

 

[Humpy]

Are whales considered animals or fish?

Either way I guess I'm a sick bastard.