I NEED VISTA DRIVERS FOR NVIDIA 8800GTX :!

[schneiderguy]

Originally posted by: Arcada
This thread is a sad state of affairs.
Yet the first result if you search for 8800GTX Vista drivers on Google (unfortunately).

search for "8800gtx vista", this thread is the second result and it uses your post for the preview :Q:Q

 

[imported_RedStar]

"AMD commented that there will be an OpenGL driver when Vista officially launches"

lol. i guess that settles that about whether or not vista is launched. Now we can start complaining about no opengl driver in the cat drivers ...maybe this funny thread can run on for another 400 posts

http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/01/17/...-only-gets-worse-with-vista/page8.html

 

[Ateo]

Originally posted by: RedStar
"AMD commented that there will be an OpenGL driver when Vista officially launches"

lol. i guess that settles that about whether or not vista is launched. Now we can start complaining about no opengl driver in the cat drivers ...maybe this funny thread can run on for another 400 posts

I'm quite sure that some one will cock up a reason for continuing the topic, don't worry
On the bright side the 30th is getting closer and closer

 

[ronnn]

Originally posted by: RedStar
"AMD commented that there will be an OpenGL driver when Vista officially launches"

lol. i guess that settles that about whether or not vista is launched. Now we can start complaining about no opengl driver in the cat drivers ...maybe this funny thread can run on for another 400 posts

http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/01/17/...-only-gets-worse-with-vista/page8.html

I would prefer not to base my reality on amd and nvidia pr, but tis your choice. :beer:

 

[Ateo]

Originally posted by: ronnn
I would prefer not to base my reality on amd and nvidia pr, but tis your choice. :beer:

Did you leave out Microsoft on purpose?
.oO(This is just what I was talking about...)

 

[josh6079]

Again, there's a reason MS setup the Jan. 30 benchmark. It wasn't so other companies could assume individuals would breech that time date and then scurry around trying to meet the demands of those individuals. It was so they would have a clear idea of when support of their product for Vista should be in full existence.

Therefore, if nVidia does not release their Vista driver on or before Jan. 30 and continue to market their product as Vista ready, you will see myself and many others on this board speak out against it.

*cough*

>.>

<.<

 

[Nelsieus]

Originally posted by: josh6079

Again, there's a reason MS setup the Jan. 30 benchmark. It wasn't so other companies could assume individuals would breech that time date and then scurry around trying to meet the demands of those individuals. It was so they would have a clear idea of when support of their product for Vista should be in full existence.

Therefore, if nVidia does not release their Vista driver on or before Jan. 30 and continue to market their product as Vista ready, you will see myself and many others on this board speak out against it.

*cough*

>.>

<.<

Beta versions are officially available, and Gamingphreek, as I'm sure you've seen in his thread, has voiced his disontent on the matter. I, too, speak out against the fact that we don't have WQHL cert yet. While I can't complain there's no support for Vista, I can complain that nVidia is not on top of the ball right now in regards to the issue.

Hopefully AMD is taking notes, though. nVidia had two months for this, and still couldn't get a WHQL cert. driver out in time. AMD will only have about half-that time, so hopefully they'll work extra hard to ensure we're not dealing with similiar issues at that time (though I'm not sure at this point).

Nelsieus

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: Nelsieus

Originally posted by: josh6079

Again, there's a reason MS setup the Jan. 30 benchmark. It wasn't so other companies could assume individuals would breech that time date and then scurry around trying to meet the demands of those individuals. It was so they would have a clear idea of when support of their product for Vista should be in full existence.

Therefore, if nVidia does not release their Vista driver on or before Jan. 30 and continue to market their product as Vista ready, you will see myself and many others on this board speak out against it.

*cough*

>.>

<.<

Beta versions are officially available, and Gamingphreek, as I'm sure you've seen in his thread, has voiced his disontent on the matter. I, too, speak out against the fact that we don't have WQHL cert yet. While I can't complain there's no support for Vista, I can complain that nVidia is not on top of the ball right now in regards to the issue.

Hopefully AMD is taking notes, though. nVidia had two months for this, and still couldn't get a WHQL cert. driver out in time. AMD will only have about half-that time, so hopefully they'll work extra hard to ensure we're not dealing with similiar issues at that time (though I'm not sure at this point).

Nelsieus

Wow ... an *admission* nVidia is not on top of the ball right now
:Q

i am Printing this out and Framing it

:shocked:


not really



but *unusual* to be sure


and kinda 'nice' for a change
:thumbsup:

i think nvidia should be cut some slack here ... seriously
it isn't like they aren't working *priority one* on this issue

new OS ... new architecture ... pretty *tough* ... and Vista isn't *perfect* either

 

[josh6079]

Hopefully AMD is taking notes, though. nVidia had two months for this, and still couldn't get a WHQL cert. driver out in time. AMD will only have about half-that time, so hopefully they'll work extra hard to ensure we're not dealing with similiar issues at that time (though I'm not sure at this point).

I agree 100%.

If nVidia is having this much trouble, I don't even want to begin thinking about the kind of trouble DAMiT will have / might be having.

 

[apoppin]

why would DAAMiT have any problems?

this is their 2nd attempt at unified shaders, they worked closely with MS in developing the Vista driver, and no doubt they are writing drivers in the next month or so before r600 is out .. they actually have HW to write the Drivers for ans a 'released' [not Beta] OS

 

[josh6079]

why would DAAMiT have any problems?

Because even on the cards that were their 3rd & 4th attempt with DX9 they still delivered shaky drivers. I myself have only relied on 2 different drivers for my X1900 because all of the rest were either a step backwards in performance or introduced rendering errors in my games.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: josh6079

why would DAAMiT have any problems?

Because even on the cards that were their 3rd & 4th attempt with DX9 they still delivered shaky drivers. I myself have only relied on 2 different drivers for my X1900 because all of the rest were either a step backwards in performance or introduced rendering errors in my games.

when was that ... which cats?

when the x1900 was first released?

i really don't remember too many complaints
[but then i didn't get my x1950p until December]

the *only* think i am saying is that DAAMiT has the r600 HW right now and released Vista -- and over a month to get it right

these *luxuries* nvidia did NOT have

 

[josh6079]

when was that ... which cats?

I primarily used Cat's 6.6 and then just recently upgraded to 6.12 because they were the first ones that gave both a performance boost and didn't introduce rendering errors in my games. Before that I used Cat. 6.3 because that's what came with my card.

Even the Cat. 6.12's have their issues, such as stretching more resolutions than scaling them correctly. I know their vertical scaling maybe better than nVidia's as n7 has showed, but I don't use that.

the *only* think i am saying is that DAAMiT has the r600 HW right now and released Vista -- and over a month to get it right

these *luxuries* nvidia did NOT have

Vista has been accessible for nVidia before the 30th. How else do you think they were able to write beta drivers?

Besides, their DX10 hardware has been out longer thus far and also has a bigger jump at XP support.

You argue that no one should care about Vista right now, yet use it as a pro when for-telling the R600's success? XP is what most gamers are on and nVidia *has* a ~3 month lead in that. When Vista becomes more popular and polished, who's to say if we'll even be discussing R600 and G80? We'll probably be on G81 and R6xx or R7xx.

God I'm speculating again...*gets sick*

 

[nZone]

Originally posted by: tuteja1986
... Nvidia sucks why does it says on the box "VISTA READY " ... WHY THE HELL NVIDIA BRAGS ABOUT VISTA READY WHEN THEY HAVE NO DRIVERS OUT !!!

These babies are going back to the store... ;!

Vista Ready != Vista Certified

 

[Gamingphreek]

Why in the world has this thread been bumped??

 

[Creig]

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
Why in the world has this thread been bumped??

Beats me. But since it has, I'd like to throw this little tidbit out there for those of you who kept insisting that the "Business Edition" is meant for businesses only.

our best guess would be that it will be the Business edition that becomes the enthusiast standard like XP Professional was before it.

Anandtech Windows Vista Performance Guide



Wow, pairing a "consumer" grade video card with a "business" grade OS. It boggles the mind. :Q

 

[Gamingphreek]

Originally posted by: Creig

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
Why in the world has this thread been bumped??

Beats me. But since it has, I'd like to throw this little tidbit out there for those of you who kept insisting that the "Business Edition" is meant for businesses only.

our best guess would be that it will be the Business edition that becomes the enthusiast standard like XP Professional was before it.

Anandtech Windows Vista Performance Guide



Wow, pairing a "consumer" grade video card with a "business" grade OS. It boggles the mind. :Q

THat is there opinion. Personally I don't see why enthusists would want the Domain Connection and the Bitlocker as opposed to MCE features...but to each his own.

Lets end this stupid argument now. Vista has been released/launched whatever you want to call it. There are drivers out for all cards for both companies (Not necessarily good). LEt this thread die.

-Kevin

 

[Aikouka]

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
THat is there opinion. Personally I don't see why enthusists would want the Domain Connection and the Bitlocker as opposed to MCE features...but to each his own.

The reasons I could see people not going to Home Premium are:

"Home Premium supports 10 simultaneous peer network connections (compared to 5 in Home Basic)."

For some the lack of full version Remote Desktop is a killer.

I know that even at college as an enthusiast gamer, I used Remote Desktop often while in computer labs as I preferred working on my own machine (mstsc ftw).

Also, we're used to not having MCE features with Windows XP Professional, so people might not miss them or see that you can just download free Open Source versions of Media Center for free. Although you could get VNC for free to solve the Remote Desktop issue.. I don't know any way other than a hack to change the peer network connections issue (I see this being troublesome if you're a host at a LAN, etc).

EDIT:

Here's the source for my quote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Vista#Editions_and_pricing

 

[jrphoenix]

I'm surprised nobody mentioned the write up by Kyle at Link

Quote

The Bottom Line

Windows Vista was not sprung on an unsuspecting NVIDIA last weekend. NVIDIA has known for a great while that WHQL Vista driver support is expected of them. They also know damn well that their enthusiast customer base will not find their current feeble attempts acceptable and that their self-stated ?world-class support? is worth very little right now in terms of Windows Vista. We saw a Beta DX9 SLI driver released today for Vista that equates to putting a Band-Aid on a compound fracture. NVIDIA does not want to have their feet held to the fire for the slap in the face given to its 8800 SLI owners so they are trying their best to deflect that negative attention. There are surely many 7800 and 7900 SLI owners out there that feel slighted by NVIDIA as well. NVIDIA has enjoyed a strong reputation in the past year, much of that tied directly to SLI. NVIDIA not being ready for DX10, Vista, and SLI is a low blow to enthusiasts and gamers that spend the big bucks, and they will remember that for a while.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: josh6079

when was that ... which cats?

I primarily used Cat's 6.6 and then just recently upgraded to 6.12 because they were the first ones that gave both a performance boost and didn't introduce rendering errors in my games. Before that I used Cat. 6.3 because that's what came with my card.

Even the Cat. 6.12's have their issues, such as stretching more resolutions than scaling them correctly. I know their vertical scaling maybe better than nVidia's as n7 has showed, but I don't use that.

the *only* think i am saying is that DAAMiT has the r600 HW right now and released Vista -- and over a month to get it right

these *luxuries* nvidia did NOT have

Vista has been accessible for nVidia before the 30th. How else do you think they were able to write beta drivers?

Besides, their DX10 hardware has been out longer thus far and also has a bigger jump at XP support.

You argue that no one should care about Vista right now, yet use it as a pro when for-telling the R600's success? XP is what most gamers are on and nVidia *has* a ~3 month lead in that. When Vista becomes more popular and polished, who's to say if we'll even be discussing R600 and G80? We'll probably be on G81 and R6xx or R7xx.

God I'm speculating again...*gets sick*

yeah ... stop speculating

*I* dont' care about Vista ... that's *all* i am arguing in the other thread

*i* dont care about r600 or 8800 either as i will not have either right away and they can be as *buggy as hell* for another year as it doesn't bother me personally ... but i am still *qualified* to discuss them as well as you are

*ALL* i said is the DAAMiT still has at least an extra MONTH to write Drivers for r600 ... in that time and in all the time nvidia was writing drivers for 8800

they have *much longer* because their HW is LATE

feeling better?

 

[Nelsieus]

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: josh6079

when was that ... which cats?

I primarily used Cat's 6.6 and then just recently upgraded to 6.12 because they were the first ones that gave both a performance boost and didn't introduce rendering errors in my games. Before that I used Cat. 6.3 because that's what came with my card.

Even the Cat. 6.12's have their issues, such as stretching more resolutions than scaling them correctly. I know their vertical scaling maybe better than nVidia's as n7 has showed, but I don't use that.

the *only* think i am saying is that DAAMiT has the r600 HW right now and released Vista -- and over a month to get it right

these *luxuries* nvidia did NOT have

Vista has been accessible for nVidia before the 30th. How else do you think they were able to write beta drivers?

Besides, their DX10 hardware has been out longer thus far and also has a bigger jump at XP support.

You argue that no one should care about Vista right now, yet use it as a pro when for-telling the R600's success? XP is what most gamers are on and nVidia *has* a ~3 month lead in that. When Vista becomes more popular and polished, who's to say if we'll even be discussing R600 and G80? We'll probably be on G81 and R6xx or R7xx.

God I'm speculating again...*gets sick*

yeah ... stop speculating

*I* dont' care about Vista ... that's *all* i am arguing in the other thread

*i* dont care about r600 or 8800 either as i will not have either right away and they can be as *buggy as hell* for another year as it doesn't bother me personally ... but i am still *qualified* to discuss them as well as you are

*ALL* i said is the DAAMiT still has at least an extra MONTH to write Drivers for r600 ... in that time and in all the time nvidia was writing drivers for 8800

they have *much longer* because their HW is LATE

feeling better?

But they can't start until the hardware is atleast up to final silicon (or the actual finalized version). You can't really code for hardware that's undergoing respins, tape-outs, etc.

Nelsieus

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: Nelsieus

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: josh6079

when was that ... which cats?

I primarily used Cat's 6.6 and then just recently upgraded to 6.12 because they were the first ones that gave both a performance boost and didn't introduce rendering errors in my games. Before that I used Cat. 6.3 because that's what came with my card.

Even the Cat. 6.12's have their issues, such as stretching more resolutions than scaling them correctly. I know their vertical scaling maybe better than nVidia's as n7 has showed, but I don't use that.

the *only* think i am saying is that DAAMiT has the r600 HW right now and released Vista -- and over a month to get it right

these *luxuries* nvidia did NOT have

Vista has been accessible for nVidia before the 30th. How else do you think they were able to write beta drivers?

Besides, their DX10 hardware has been out longer thus far and also has a bigger jump at XP support.

You argue that no one should care about Vista right now, yet use it as a pro when for-telling the R600's success? XP is what most gamers are on and nVidia *has* a ~3 month lead in that. When Vista becomes more popular and polished, who's to say if we'll even be discussing R600 and G80? We'll probably be on G81 and R6xx or R7xx.

God I'm speculating again...*gets sick*

yeah ... stop speculating

*I* dont' care about Vista ... that's *all* i am arguing in the other thread

*i* dont care about r600 or 8800 either as i will not have either right away and they can be as *buggy as hell* for another year as it doesn't bother me personally ... but i am still *qualified* to discuss them as well as you are

*ALL* i said is the DAAMiT still has at least an extra MONTH to write Drivers for r600 ... in that time and in all the time nvidia was writing drivers for 8800

they have *much longer* because their HW is LATE

feeling better?

But they can't start until the hardware is atleast up to final silicon (or the actual finalized version). You can't really code for hardware that's undergoing respins, tape-outs, etc.

Nelsieus

evidently it's *done* ... they got a month ... let's see IF they can get it right

i bet they do

and no one jumped on me for suggesting we cut nvidia *some slack*
:Q

 

[josh6079]

*I* dont' care about Vista ... that's *all* i am arguing in the other thread

In *this* thread you are using Vista as a pro for the R600 to have over the G80 since nVidia didn't have the "luxury" of it. That isn't the case. If it was then nVidia *couldn't* have made any driver for Vista. Not to mention ATi's architecture has just recently became final enough for production and therefore driver programming.

They both have their work cut out for them. It's just that nVidia right now has both hardware and drivers (albeit, beta ones) while ATi has neither.

*i* dont care about r600 or 8800 either as i will not have either right away and they can be as *buggy as hell* for another year as it doesn't bother me personally ... but i am still *qualified* to discuss them as well as you are

Where have I stated you weren't? Or where have I said that I was more "qualified" than you?

For all of the Inq. links and relaying of news you provide - thankyou by the way - your posts do display some kind of care.

*ALL* i said is the DAAMiT still has at least an extra MONTH to write Drivers for r600 ... in that time and in all the time nvidia was writing drivers for 8800

They probably have more than that since I doubt ATi's R600 will be available for purchase in a month. Hopefully I'm wrong.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: josh6079

*I* dont' care about Vista ... that's *all* i am arguing in the other thread

In *this* thread you are using Vista as a pro for the R600 to have over the G80 since nVidia didn't have the "luxury" of it. That isn't the case. If it was then nVidia *couldn't* have made any driver for Vista. Not to mention ATi's architecture has just recently became final enough for production and therefore driver programming.

They both have their work cut out for them. It's just that nVidia right now has both hardware and drivers (albeit, beta ones) while ATi has neither.

Wrong again ... DAAMiT has both ... and i am not pro-anything here ... just comparing

*i* dont care about r600 or 8800 either as i will not have either right away and they can be as *buggy as hell* for another year as it doesn't bother me personally ... but i am still *qualified* to discuss them as well as you are

Where have I stated you weren't? Or where have I said that I was more "qualified" than you?

For all of the Inq. links and relaying of news you provide - thankyou by the way - your posts do display some kind of care.[/quote]So do you appear to have some kind of care in your posts. ... i made a *comment* did it need *analysis*?

*ALL* i said is the DAAMiT still has at least an extra MONTH to write Drivers for r600 ... in that time and in all the time nvidia was writing drivers for 8800

They probably have more than that since I doubt ATi's R600 will be available for purchase in a month. Hopefully I'm wrong.[/quote]

you seem to have trouble tonight *understanding* what i am saying

doesn't *at least an extra month* kinda make your comment really doubly redundant?

more time than at least an extra month?

and only you stipulated *available for purchase* --not me

 

[josh6079]

Wrong again ... DAAMiT has both ...

And they're the only ones that have both. That's kinda my point.

So do you appear to have some kind of care in your posts. ... i made a *comment* did it need *analysis*?

What does this have to do with your claim that nVidia doesn't have the luxuries ATi has had?

If anything nVidia has more luxuries since their products have already been selling, drivers being reviewed by the masses, and a new line-up of budget cards shortly on their way. I just don't see how ATi's supposed *relations* with MS stated in a previous PR justify an advantage that isn't seen anywhere else. Nor do I see how having Vista available for consumers gives a graphic card industry more of an edge when writing drivers for said hardware, especially when such logical consumers as yourself "don't care about Vista" to begin with.

you seem to have trouble tonight *understanding* what i am saying

I know. That's why I'm asking you questions. Why you're all of the sudden typing in bold and coming off abrasive is beyond me.

Part of the reason why I'm confused is because in one thread you're giving reasons as to why not to upgrade to Vista yet. You feel those reasons to be logical and practical - ones that a good consumer can agree with. Yet in this thread you discuss how having said OS out for retail now gives ATi a month advantage in preparing drivers for it when MS have already given them kudos with it. You've displayed your opinion about ATi having more intimancy with MS's Vista in an earlier thread where their PR stated so. Therefore, I don't see how an official launch of an OS already at ATi's disposal and not worthy of upgrading to is any advantage.