I need a new Antec Power Supply...

[JEDIYoda]

Originally posted by: ribbon13

Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
Dual 12v rails are a myth...there is no such thing as true dual 12v rails!
All a dual rail rig has is a single 12v that is split into 2.....
You would be better off getting a single 12v rail that has at leasts 24amps...

Actually, this is untrue. They have a place and a time. Dual-railed PSUs appeared in the server market well before the consumer market. The 'seperate gates' allow the seperate CPUs to have rapidly changing load needs without disturbing the power to the other CPUs. It was the solution for real-world examples like this: on single rail PSU CPU0 goes from 0 to 100% usage at the exaxt same moment as CPU1 causing such a rapid current draw the PSU's rail voltage sags too much crashing both CPUs.

actually there really is no such thing as true sepreate 12v rails....
they all originate from the same source....

Yes I agree there is a time and a place....
but with that said.....
very rarely does anybody unless they are booting up many many h/d need to have a true dual rail set up.

But just to have a dual rail set up or to recommend one for regular PC use just becuase...

Thats why many many sibgle rail PSU`s out perform the supposedly dual rails!!

But that was a very good point you made Ribbon!!

 

[maluckey]

JEDIYoda

You are a consumate politician. You change your point of view so rapidly that it's hard to follow. Too bad Kerry couldn't have done as well as you di at this

Now, what is your opinion of Antec? After all, it IS the topic at hand.

 

[maluckey]

Now the Antec EPS +12v don't work with the new DFI boards OR the high-end Tyan boards:

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No answers from Antec as of yet. Perhaps this is a minor thing, perhaps not. Quite a few other PSU's by other manufacturers DO work with those boards (PC Power and Cooling, FSP, OCZ), and some are rated far lower as far as wattage is concerned. I am very interested to hear about Antecs response and actions to fix the issue. I have said to anyone that would listen for over a year and a half, that the cross-loading of some of their PSU's coupled with voltage droop on th +12v line, is a serious issue. I lost two mobos and two vid cards, along with one HDD to sub-par units and false advertising.

 

[JEDIYoda]

maluckey my position has never waivered....

Its real simple....

Show me via links.....proof that PCP&C PSU`s have been made entirely by other companies in the past?

Show mw anywhere that disputes that PCP&C PSU`s are the very best quality wise as well as customer service wise....

Show me via specs where PCP&C drops the ball in anyway......

Your assertaions in prevvious posts assert that PCP&C do not make or aseemble there own PSU`s....

Your assertion that becuase various PSU makers might use say a part from fortron or another part made by Zippy etc is proof that they don`t make there own PSU`s....

Then as far as Ribbon`s cooments concerning Dual rails.....

Under specific applications as was also mention in another thread in C&C.....
by somebody who has 10 h/d.......the dual rails for that person are just what he needed...

With that said...
The things Ribbon says almost 99% of the time have merit and can be backed up with links and facts.

On the other hand as Muluckey posts...there are no links or facts and he doesn`t even appear to care that what he is spouting is all enuendo and baseless diatribe....

I`m being a politician becuase some people you cannot have a intelligent give and take conversation!
Others like Ribbon and many many others its possible to have a give and take and to change your opinion without some "know it all" saying you are being political...

Its obvious some people use these forums to attack and attack and not to try to learn and understand....

I heard what you were saying Mulucky I really did and some has a basis for fact...

But you have let your own personnal bad experiences make you come accross as a buffoon who is only intent on having your own way....

Again its not political to say some points have merit...
Its polite and a grown up way of doing things....

Have a ncie day!!

 

[maluckey]

JEDIYoda

I understand that perhaps English isn't your best language, but here's your information:

FSP-300-60GT is resold by PC Power and Cooling as the Turbo Cool 300 and by California PC Products as their 300W power supplly.

PC Power and Cooling brand (Turbo Cool 400) 400W Rev 2.01 ATX PS2 Power Supply is made by Zippy/Emacs

PS-PCPCX-300W are made by SPI

These models aren't "parts" they are made by their respective companies and sold as PC Power and Coooling.

PC Powr and Cooling, and California PC Products both used to sell a rebadged Magtech 400W ATX power supplies, but ceased when the quality wasn't up to their standards.

Also, the thread is about Antec. If you want to work for PC Power and Cooling, that's fine, but the thread is about ANTEC. I have seen you in ANY thread concerning PSU's, where you REFUSE to discuss the thread topic and go on in your Fanboy way about PC Power and Cooling. Sure, they are very nice PSU's. We get that....

We also get that you bought one....great for you!! Now, if you have nothing to say about Antec, go home and talk to someone about you favorite topic, PC Power and Cooling.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Originally posted by: maluckey
JEDIYoda

I understand that perhaps English isn't your best language, but here's your information:

FSP-300-60GT is resold by PC Power and Cooling as the Turbo Cool 300 and by California PC Products as their 300W power supplly.

PC Power and Cooling brand (Turbo Cool 400) 400W Rev 2.01 ATX PS2 Power Supply is made by Zippy/Emacs

PS-PCPCX-300W are made by SPI

These models aren't "parts" they are made by their respective companies and sold as PC Power and Coooling.

PC Powr and Cooling, and California PC Products both used to sell a rebadged Magtech 400W ATX power supplies, but ceased when the quality wasn't up to their standards.

Also, the thread is about Antec. If you want to work for PC Power and Cooling, that's fine, but the thread is about ANTEC. I have seen you in ANY thread concerning PSU's, where you REFUSE to discuss the thread topic and go on in your Fanboy way about PC Power and Cooling. Sure, they are very nice PSU's. We get that....

We also get that you bought one....great for you!! Now, if you have nothing to say about Antec, go home and talk to someone about you favorite topic, PC Power and Cooling.

again I see no links to your dribble and as such no merit or proof of what you have to say......

Its obvious I am dealing with an adult who has a childs mentality or I am dealing with a school child...who obviously cant or has not read the very first post...heres a refresher..

I'm looking at the Antec Truepower 2.0 550W power supply, but it may be too much for my needs.

It will be supporting an AMD 3500, 1) 6800GS, 2 dvd-rw's, 3 HD's and 1GB of memory.
I will be adding another 6800GS down the road and 1 more GB of memory also.

What recommendations would you make for a power supply?

So you chimed in....
Avoid Antec. Not well recieved on Extremesytems.org, nor THG stress test. Their quality has suffered over the last year.

http://www.tomshardware.com/howto/200507111/stresstest-09.html

Even THG gailed the True Power (two of them), which is their better offerings.

has nothing to do with the question he was asking which would you choose...
Not why would you not choose Antec....

Then afew posts later PC_Freak throws it open to suggestions for other brand s of PSU`s....

If not Antec then who?

Thus opening the door....

Again if I was going to buy anything other than PCP&C.....
I would iether get a Seasonic....
An OCZ PSU....
or a Zippy or a Fortron and yes in that order.......
Maybe even a Sin-Tek......

Now since your so sure of yourself....
Then I gather that you have a link or some thing other than second or third hand information......

Since you claim that english is your main language...
I really don`t understand what part of this you don`t understand....
Then I gather that you have a link or some thing other than second or third hand information......

You obviously had alot to say about antec...that was negative..yet what is your response to those who say they love antec.....

PC_Freak opened the door...to all suggestions for a PSU....
I`m sorry but you like make statements without supporting proof as in links...etc....

We are still waiting for your proof.....rofl

People aren`t stoopid they see you for what you are..

You attack my english becuase thats the only way you think you can get me to react...

all you have to do is submit proof of your diatribe and all will be well..if not...then perhaps you need to chill....

and consider yourself uber OWNED!!

 

[thecoolnessrune]

Originally posted by: John
I guess we should boycott Intel too.

You mean people haven't already?

 

[imported_Nacelle]

I like antec for their warrenty. Make sure you have the reciept and they will replace a bad one within 3 years.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Originally posted by: Nacelle
I like antec for their warrenty. Make sure you have the reciept and they will replace a bad one within 3 years.

3 years is a long time to wait for a replacement.......heheeee

 

[ribbon13]

Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
again I see no links to your dribble and as such no merit or proof of what you have to say......

http://www.tdl.com/~netex/cases/ps.html

I will confirm this if you want.

 

[Nocturnal]

If I was going to buy a new system today I'd get the Antec TruePower II 550w PSU.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Originally posted by: ribbon13

Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
again I see no links to your dribble and as such no merit or proof of what you have to say......

http://www.tdl.com/~netex/cases/ps.html

I will confirm this if you want.

Its not a matter of confirming again its just the plain fact that my friend who works for PCP&C has told me that they have never made PSU`s for any other company or under any other names..
Plus when I showed him this article which I was already aware of he stated look and see what PSu`s they mainly push......Zippy...Zippy...Zippy.......with a few others...
Read there interpretation of the best quality.....its slanted biased and based what....
They are a company trying to sell Zippy PSU`s......
of course they would say--Two of their former customers included California PC Products of Hollister, CA, and PC Power and Cooling of Carlsbad, CA

Again......its hard to be convincing when you go to the PCP&C site and you see no putting down by brand of other companies or PSU`s.....
I think you understand...

 

[Shadrack]

I also read that same article.
If I remember correctly the President/CEO of PC Power&Cooling even came out publicly stating that nobody made or marketed any other PSU`s but there own PC Power & Cooling branded PSU`s.

Wish I could find the article,,,,grrrr

 

[maluckey]

You won't find that quote.... Unless it's VERY new. Perhaps they no longer do so. I have several aquaintances, as well as my own eyes that have seen SPI and FSP logos stamped inside PC Power and Cooling units.

This does not mean that PC Power and Cooling isn't a great brand, because they are. They make (as far as I know) their own Turbo Cool 510. I have seen nor heard anything to contradict this. This PSU is quite frankly, awesomely good. It's price is high, but so is the performance.

You could put it (the PC Power and Cooling unit) head to head with any comparable unit and when the dust settles, feel proud to own one.

 

[MadHatt0r]

Seasonic is what i would recommend