I love being a tech-savvy parent >:D

[SheHateMe]

Those of us with kids know from general experience that your opinion means precisely jack shit.

Apply that stance to any subject you can have an opinion on in life and realize how stupid that is.



Thanks.


Oh, I have one!

Ive never been bullied so I can't possibly know what it feels like.

Or

Ive never birthed a child so I don't know how difficult childbirth is.



Ya, sure, some of us in this thread don't have kids...that doesn't mean we can't have an opinion on your parenting.

 

[Tweak155]

i'm not saying that law is good or anything, but to say someone's opinion is 100% invalid because they aren't a parent is pretty narrow sighted. now her comparing parenting a child to owning cats ... that is just retarded lol.

but the whole concept of "cant have a valid opinion because you arent a parent" is like saying that we can't have an opinion on who is good/bad in professional sports because we have never played at the professional level, only observed. or we can't say what a good movie or game is because we've never made one, only observed/played them.

if i see a little kid running around in a store screaming his head off and being a total pest and the parent isn't doing anything, that parent is doing a bad job at parenting.

I recall you program for your profession so let's use this as an example.

You write a piece of code in whatever language you're most comfortable with. Me, being a non coder come in and criticize your code. You, being a programmer, detect I'm clearly spouting off opinions that make no sense in regards to proper programming practices or the goal at hand, but I'm not exactly off topic because I've seen other lines of code in other programs (NOTE: Observer) yet never actually wrote one. This is how you sound. Just comes off as arrogant.

 

[Vdubchaos]

I recall you program for your profession so let's use this as an example.

You write a piece of code in whatever language you're most comfortable with. Me, being a non coder come in and criticize your code. You, being a programmer, detect I'm clearly spouting off opinions that make no sense in regards to proper programming practices or the goal at hand, but I'm not exactly off topic because I've seen other lines of code in other programs (NOTE: Observer) yet never actually wrote one. This is how you sound. Just comes off as arrogant.

Well put

He should really watch that Louie CK video hehe

 

[Vdubchaos]

i'll respond to this since i am also a parent. You are of course free to have an opinion on how to parent a child even though you don't have one. Those of us with kids know from general experience that your opinion means precisely jack shit.

It reminds me of a state assemblywoman in california a few years back who didn't have kids, but sponsored an anti-spanking bill. When asked what the merits were for her stance on how to discipline children, she mentioned the fact that she had cats.

rotflmao

 

[purbeast0]

I recall you program for your profession so let's use this as an example.

You write a piece of code in whatever language you're most comfortable with. Me, being a non coder come in and criticize your code. You, being a programmer, detect I'm clearly spouting off opinions that make no sense in regards to proper programming practices or the goal at hand, but I'm not exactly off topic because I've seen other lines of code in other programs (NOTE: Observer) yet never actually wrote one. This is how you sound. Just comes off as arrogant.

depends on what you criticize about it. you can't just make it so black and white to call it a day.

for example, if you looked at my code and saw a function named "f" and then saw a function named "toggleCheckBox" and told me that the function named "f" wasn't very descriptive and you weren't sure what it did, i would tell you that you are absolutely correct and agree with you.

 

[Phoenix86]

How am I for blind trust when I just said he should have stopped letting her drive after she was staying out past curfew and lying?

That would go for anyone in my life, daughter, friend, whatever.

Don't drive my car and not bring it back when I ask you to. And don't lie about where you are in MY car.

Also, replace my gas or you're going to be walking.

Where is the blind trust?

So much irony. OP didn't blindy trust his daughter either.

Also, you realize the curfew was law not a parental one right?

 

[Soundmanred]

I'm starting to think that SheHateMen is Vdubs kid.
That would explain a lot.

 

[SunnyD]

depends on what you criticize about it. you can't just make it so black and white to call it a day.

for example, if you looked at my code and saw a function named "f" and then saw a function named "toggleCheckBox" and told me that the function named "f" wasn't very descriptive and you weren't sure what it did, i would tell you that you are absolutely correct and agree with you.

I would tell him to fuck off since the function "f" was simply to print an f on the screen, and it should be blatantly obvious as to what it does.

 

[rasczak]

OP, I would have told my child that she is being tracked. This way there is an understanding from her side that she should be were she says she will be. If plans change, then she will call you. Now, she will hide where she is by leaving the car or phone at her friends place and driving around circumventing your protocols. I would be straight forward with her and let her know what YOU expect as a parent. Good communication is the key to trust.

 

[Genx87]

I probably wouldnt have made it known you have a way to track her. Instead, punish her for breaking curfew. And prod her into why.

 

[Vdubchaos]

I'm starting to think that SheHateMen is Vdubs kid.
That would explain a lot.

That's a bit below the belt, don't ya think?

 

[SheHateMe]

I hate men now.


That explains it all.

 

[Tweak155]

depends on what you criticize about it. you can't just make it so black and white to call it a day.

for example, if you looked at my code and saw a function named "f" and then saw a function named "toggleCheckBox" and told me that the function named "f" wasn't very descriptive and you weren't sure what it did, i would tell you that you are absolutely correct and agree with you.

Ok I covered that by you being able to identify I'm not making any sense in the original scenario. I'm the one who doesn't realize I'm not making sense (aka you aren't realizing your comments are off base).

EDIT:

And I quote:

You, being a programmer, detect I'm clearly spouting off opinions that make no sense in regards to proper programming practices or the goal at hand

Your rethort doesn't fall under that description.

 

[GTaudiophile]

So where was she? And do you know the boy?

 

[Vdubchaos]

I hate men now.


That explains it all.

Now the true feeling finally come out.....

God dam men I tell ya

Ok I covered that by you being able to identify I'm not making any sense in the original scenario. I'm the one who doesn't realize I'm not making sense (aka you aren't realizing your comments are off base).

EDIT:

And I quote:

You, being a programmer, detect I'm clearly spouting off opinions that make no sense in regards to proper programming practices or the goal at hand

Your rethort doesn't fall under that description.

I think you gave it a really good try. Unfortunately he will not learn until he has a kid....and even when he does it will take good 5-10 years to realize this.

That's why I don't even bother. One cannot even remotely comprehend.

 

[lxskllr]

EDIT:

And I quote:

You, being a programmer, detect I'm clearly spouting off opinions that make no sense in regards to proper programming practices or the goal at hand

Your rethort doesn't fall under that description.

A non-coder may not know what the hell he's looking at regarding source, but he can criticize the run binary. It can be as subtle as a shitty interface, or as bad as the undocumented feature of having your root drive formatted when when you press an obscure key combination.

 

[GTaudiophile]

I also feel that the punishment was too light.

 

[Mxylplyx]

Apply that stance to any subject you can have an opinion on in life and realize how stupid that is.



Thanks.


Oh, I have one!

Ive never been bullied so I can't possibly know what it feels like.

Or

Ive never birthed a child so I don't know how difficult childbirth is.



Ya, sure, some of us in this thread don't have kids...that doesn't mean we can't have an opinion on your parenting.

Guess what, my 6yr old also has an opinion on my parenting. I give your opinion about as much weight as his. It is quite obvious that your whole perspective on parenting is from that of a child, which is understandable. Trying to convince you otherwise would be like trying to convince a teenage girl that life goes on after her boyfriend dumps her. You just cant possibly understand without perspective., and when you do eventually have children, you can look back at this conversation and laugh at yourself.

 

[SphinxnihpS]

The OP clearly says that he didn't start tracking her until AFTER she had demonstrated a problem following his rules. She wasn't being open and trustful, so tracking her was the right decision.

Never. So pathetic...

 

[Aikouka]

I don't think that it's a downright terrible thing, but I hope that you took the time to mention that you're disappointed that she didn't just tell you what she was doing. I mean... you wouldn't have been pleased, but at least she wasn't doing anything stupid or rather dangerous.

For instance, my 13 year old seems to have a fetish for asian porn One of those "look the other way" situations.

Aw yeah! :awe:

 

[Fritzo]

Apply that stance to any subject you can have an opinion on in life and realize how stupid that is.



Thanks.


Oh, I have one!

Ive never been bullied so I can't possibly know what it feels like.

Or

Ive never birthed a child so I don't know how difficult childbirth is.



Ya, sure, some of us in this thread don't have kids...that doesn't mean we can't have an opinion on your parenting.

You're right: you will never know what any of those situations are truly like unless you experience them. You can only guess based on other people's accounts.

By your logic, you could say "I'm going to be an astronaut because I spoke with Neil Armstrong!"

 

[olds]

LOL at the people "debating" with SheHateMe.

 

[OutHouse]

OP, did she pay for the car or does she pay insurance/gas etc?

Also does she pay for her own phone?





This

OP?

Minor living at home, does not matter if she pays for them or not

 

[OutHouse]

I also feel that the punishment was too light.

Me too. Car and phone would be. Gone

 

[Imp]

I get the feeling she's going to ditch the car ("tracking device" and all) and borrow/use her friends' once they also get cars -- shouldn't be long since you all Americana in the country. Then you'll still know she's dodging you and jig's up.