I love being a tech-savvy parent >:D

[SheHateMe]

err..that's idiotic.

Trust is one thing. but blind trust is another. you seem to be all for that.

she needs to learn to drive. only way a person gets good is more driving. Allow her to go and show that she deserves it (she did blow that).

How am I for blind trust when I just said he should have stopped letting her drive after she was staying out past curfew and lying?

That would go for anyone in my life, daughter, friend, whatever.

Don't drive my car and not bring it back when I ask you to. And don't lie about where you are in MY car.

Also, replace my gas or you're going to be walking.

Where is the blind trust?

 

[sixone]

If she was already lying to him before and staying out past curfew...why did he continue to let her drive his car?

He said she was a new driver and needed to learn how to operate a car because it could kill her or someone else...yet, she is allowed to drive unsupervised.

OP created his own problems. If you don't trust her with the car, don't let her drive.

I thought your earlier post was sarcastic.

Yes, Fritzo. Block your kids from using the Internet and their phones, too.

Put them on total lockdown.

Guess not.

 

[waggy]

How am I for blind trust when I just said he should have stopped letting her drive after she was staying out past curfew and lying?

That would go for anyone in my life, daughter, friend, whatever.

Don't drive my car and not bring it back when I ask you to. And don't lie about where you are in MY car.

Also, replace my gas or you're going to be walking.

Where is the blind trust?

i agree they should replace the gas and go where they say (oldest learned fast on this. if she had plans and wanted my car i would make sure it was on E hehe)

by blind trust i say that because you bitched when i mentioned "trust but verify". I will trust her to do what she wants vs nto allowing her to go. but i will also make sure she was where she claimed.

 

[SheHateMe]

I thought your earlier post was sarcastic.



Guess not.

Comment was directed towards (and poking fun at) VDub automatically telling Fritz to ban his kids from the internets because he found out his son likes Asian porn.

 

[Vdubchaos]

Comment was directed towards (and poking fun at) VDub automatically telling Fritz to ban his kids from the internets because he found out his son likes Asian porn.

Show me where I said that?

I asked if he believed his child would do this sort of thing if he had no access to begin with.

You are making up things and believing your own lies....

 

[Tweak155]

Comment was directed towards (and poking fun at) VDub automatically telling Fritz to ban his kids from the internets because he found out his son likes Asian porn.

Poking fun in one, but advocating and suggesting in another.

 

[Jeffg010]

She's just not technically inclined. I've GIVEN her the tools to avoid surveillance, and that includes surveillance by me, but there's no interest in trying. She falls back to the stuff her idiot friends use. My disappointment is twofold. First is her not taking an interest in computers, and her privacy/security, and second is for being a follower, and not a leader. Any retard can do what everyone else does. She should be making people bend to her will.

So what you are saying she uses facebook and your disappointed

 

[lxskllr]

So what you are saying she uses facebook and your disappointed

Amongst other things :^D

 

[SheHateMe]

Show me where I said that?

I asked if he believed his child would do this sort of thing if he had no access to begin with.

You are making up things and believing your own lies....

You asked (told) him basically if he was enabling his kids by letting them use the internet.

 

[waggy]

So what you are saying she uses facebook and your disappointed

could be worse. she could be using Google+

 

[Vdubchaos]

You asked (told) him basically if he was enabling his kids by letting them use the internet.

I used the word "do you feel that"

Not told him

Don't twist my words, thanks

 

[SheHateMe]

I used the word "do you feel that"

Not told him

Don't twist my words, thanks

So you suggested that he was enabling by letting them access it.... thats exactly what you did. His kid likes porn, so you ask if his willingness to let them on the internet enabled that fetish.

 

[waggy]

So you suggested that he was enabling by letting them access it.... thats exactly what you did. His kid likes porn, so you ask if his willingness to let them on the internet enabled that fetish.

meh thats a stretch.

 

[Vdubchaos]

So you suggested that he was enabling by letting them access it.

I asked, how he felt about that as a parent. Did he feel guilty etc.

Nothing less/nothing more.

After that, you were saying that they needed to learn the value of something before they were allowed to have it.

No I said....

I don't believe ANYONE (no matter how great of a person hey might be) can appreciate ANYTHING that's given to them. Unless they work for it themselves/see what it takes......it's hard to know/appreciate it/care for it as much.

I don't believe in free bees. People should work for their own things and learn what it takes to get them.

It simply give you a better perspective on life and MORE appreciation for things that you do posses.

I think WAY too many parents hand things over to their children "just because they are my kids".

And before anyone jumps on me, this is MY view/opinion based on what I've learned. Nothing more/nothing less. Take it how you want it.

My kids might get to BORROW my car but they will have to put in their own gas and chip in for insurance etc assuming they are doing well in school and are responsible.

Give me MILLIONS and I will not change my mind.

 

[Rakehellion]

We finally had to tell her we could see her exact location and she freaked out and demanded to know how we could see her. Instead of telling her about Lookout, I said we installed a tracking device in the car for her safety.

You shouldn't have told her. This could have gone on for years with her ending up in all kinds of interesting places.

 

[waggy]

I asked, how he felt about that as a parent. Did he feel guilty etc.

Nothing less/nothing more.



No I said....

I don't believe ANYONE (no matter how great of a person hey might be) can appreciate ANYTHING that's given to them. Unless they work for it themselves/see what it takes......it's hard to know/appreciate it/care for it as much.

I don't believe in free bees. People should work for their own things and learn what it takes to get them.

It simply give you a better perspective on life and MORE appreciation for things that you do posses.

I think WAY too many parents hand things over to their children "just because they are my kids".

And before anyone jumps on me, this is MY view/opinion based on what I've learned. Nothing more/nothing less. Take it how you want it.

My kids might get to BORROW my car but they will have to put in their own gas and chip in for insurance etc assuming they are doing well in school and are responsible.

Give me MILLIONS and I will not change my mind.

I agree.

My kids do plenty of things (and they are expensive). the agreement is they Get and keep good grades, do the chores around the house and don't get in trouble.

My daughter wanted a camera. she worked and earned teh $200 for it. Now she is working to get a small cheap camcorder (she wan'ts to make movies)/

Only big things i will pay for is a computer for her (looking for a cheap one now). but thats more for school then anything.

 

[waggy]

You shouldn't have told her. This could have gone on for years with her ending up in all kinds of interesting places.

yeah. i would have saved such info for something really really big.

 

[Vdubchaos]

I agree.

My kids do plenty of things (and they are expensive). the agreement is they Get and keep good grades, do the chores around the house and don't get in trouble.

My daughter wanted a camera. she worked and earned teh $200 for it. Now she is working to get a small cheap camcorder (she wan'ts to make movies)/

Only big things i will pay for is a computer for her (looking for a cheap one now). but thats more for school then anything.

Yep

By the time my kids save enough money to buy "what they wanted last few weeks back" or "what their friends have that they want"........they no longer want it/their interest have changed.

Kids don't really know what they want (it's perfectly normal).

Also when they know what it takes to save money/wait and be patient......they don't want to spend it AT ALL.

I call this "teaching them financial responsibility early on in life".

It's not easy as their friends get $300 Iphones with crazy monthly plans....and new sports cars etc. Then these parents wonder what went wrong when their kid wrapped their sports car around the pole or wasted 4 years of college cause "it's not their money so who gives a shit/I have nothing to lose/YOLO".

That's right, what I said applies to College as well....

Ohh well

 

[waggy]

Yep

By the time my kids save enough money to buy "what they wanted last few weeks back" or "what their friends have that they want"........they no longer want it/their interest have changed.

Kids don't really know what they want (it's perfectly normal).

Also when they know what it takes to save money/wait and be patient......they don't want to spend it AT ALL.

I call this "teaching them financial responsibility early on in life".

It's not easy as their friends get $300 Iphones with crazy monthly plans....and new sports cars etc. Then these parents wonder what went wrong. Ohh well

yeah.



She is in gymnastics she has to buy her own equipment (i pay the monthly bill..fucking expensive) which is grips, chalk, hair ties, and leotards.

it took her 8 months to afford the camera. i thought for sure she would find something else to blow that money on but she saved for it. she picked out a nice 10 megapixal camera and my sister gave her a 32meg card for it.

 

[sixone]

Comment was directed towards (and poking fun at) VDub automatically telling Fritz to ban his kids from the internets because he found out his son likes Asian porn.

Which comment? Because they're pretty similar.

 

[HumblePie]

Frizto,

Don't let any of the idiot haters here tell you how you should raise your kids. You know your kids and your relationship best. For some kids what you did would not have gone over well. For others, it is perfectly acceptable. The trick is knowing you are the parent and how to best handle the situation as needed. Much of that comes from a lifetime of interacting with them as they grew up.

 

[Mxylplyx]

Its not about whether or not she got punished. I responded to people in this thread saying that you can't have an opinion about someone's parenting because you aren't a parent.

As if none of us even did what the OP's daughter did as a teen.

I'll respond to this since I am also a parent. You are of course free to have an opinion on how to parent a child even though you don't have one. Those of us with kids know from general experience that your opinion means precisely jack shit.

It reminds me of a state assemblywoman in California a few years back who didn't have kids, but sponsored an anti-spanking bill. When asked what the merits were for her stance on how to discipline children, she mentioned the fact that she had cats.

 

[Tweak155]

I'll respond to this since I am also a parent. You are of course free to have an opinion on how to parent a child even though you don't have one. Those of us with kids know from general experience that your opinion means precisely jack shit.

It reminds me of a state assemblywoman in California a few years back who didn't have kids, but sponsored an anti-spanking bill. When asked what the merits were for her stance on how to discipline children, she mentioned the fact that she had cats.

Lol what?? I swear...

 

[iRONic]

I love reading this thread. It's painfully obvious to see the division between the "haves" and the "have-not's".

As in the "I have kids" and the "I have not had kids". :biggrin:

I approve of the OP's use of this technology for combating what is a frequent repeat offense of a given privilege with stipulations. For those of you that are yelling "ZOMG HELICOPTAR PARENTZ!!!!" Go read the OP again. Twice.

Heh heh... good post.

 

[purbeast0]

I'll respond to this since I am also a parent. You are of course free to have an opinion on how to parent a child even though you don't have one. Those of us with kids know from general experience that your opinion means precisely jack shit.

It reminds me of a state assemblywoman in California a few years back who didn't have kids, but sponsored an anti-spanking bill. When asked what the merits were for her stance on how to discipline children, she mentioned the fact that she had cats.

i'm not saying that law is good or anything, but to say someone's opinion is 100% invalid because they aren't a parent is pretty narrow sighted. now her comparing parenting a child to owning cats ... that is just retarded lol.

but the whole concept of "cant have a valid opinion because you arent a parent" is like saying that we can't have an opinion on who is good/bad in professional sports because we have never played at the professional level, only observed. or we can't say what a good movie or game is because we've never made one, only observed/played them.

if i see a little kid running around in a store screaming his head off and being a total pest and the parent isn't doing anything, that parent is doing a bad job at parenting.