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Vdubchaos

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Heh...same here. I do go through email accounts and texts, and occasionally through their drawers and such. I find some bad things once in a while, but if it's not anything that could damage them or illegal I don't say anything.

For instance, my 13 year old seems to have a fetish for asian porn :D One of those "look the other way" situations.

Do you think he would have this fetish if you didn't allow them internet access/phones etc?

You don't feel that you enabled them to have such fetish?
 

SheHateMe

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Yes, Fritzo. Block your kids from using the Internet and their phones, too.


Put them on total lockdown.
 

Red Storm

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The spying and being secretive I can see people having a problem with. I should've added that we were up front with our son and told him that we had lookout installed so we would know where he was at if we ever wanted to look it up. We have never been given a reason to use it yet, but it's very clear to our son that it's a tool we will use if warranted.

Yeah that's different, you let them know which is the important part. Spying on them without them knowing is treating them like you would a potential enemy, and that's sad to see. From what I've seen and experienced, those kids whose parents tried to secretly spy on them, go through their email and whatnot, those kids were dying to move out and get away from home.
 

Fritzo

Lifer
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Do you think he would have this fetish if you didn't allow them internet access/phones etc?

You don't feel that you enabled them to have such fetish?

When I was that age, we found porn mags with a LOT worse stuff laying around. Teen boys are horny...they'll seek out porn no matter the medium.
 

Vdubchaos

Lifer
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Yes, Fritzo. Block your kids from using the Internet and their phones, too.

Put them on total lockdown.

Not lock down. One first has to realize what kind of a value these things add to your children's lives. To me, they add NONE

My kids have internet access....but they never really use it much....

And phones, they simply don't need and I can't afford (pretty simple). The only reason they want it is because their friends have it.

They are free to use home phone to call their friends.....which they don't do often anyways.

I don't want them to become "phone" zombies like many kids this day and age.....kapish?
 

purbeast0

No Lifer
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Until you are a parent, don't EVER judge another parent.

EVER

You will not know why and I will never be able to explain to you why UNTIL you are a parent. You will just have to trust me on that.

;)

you are so set in your ways that i'm pretty sure being your kid would not be a fun experience.

and yes, i can say this without being a parent, regardless of what you think.
 

Vdubchaos

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you are so set in your ways that i'm pretty sure being your kid would not be a fun experience.

My kids don't feel that way. YOu see, rather than leave them with a phone....or internet....I choose to actually spend time with them.

It's more meaningful and valuable vs BS devices our society forces our children into.

and yes, i can say this without being a parent, regardless of what you think.

Yes, you CAN, but that doesn't mean you have even a REMOTE clue WTF you are talking about (and you don't)

Don't worry, I was JUST LIKE YOU when I didn't have kids.

I will let Louis CK explain it to you, he is better at it (especially at 7:30 or so).....but watch the whole thing (it's worth it)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4u2ZsoYWwJA

Until you are a parent, you simply don't have the slightest clue.
 
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SlitheryDee

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I like this because it is satisfying to finally be able to call teens on at least some of their bullshit, but I don't think it's strictly necessary. There was no such thing as this when pretty much any of us were teens, or the entirety of the preceding human history, and for generations we've been mostly turning out alright. I think that diligent parents calling around to verify their teen's stories largely served the same purpose back in the day though. I didn't get away with too much where my parents didn't figure out I wasn't where I was supposed to be, if not exactly where I was.
 

olds

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Seriously? Everybody lies. Especially teenagers. No amount of punishment can change that.
I understand you can't change it. But what you can do as a parent is teach your children that there are consequences for actions. Most parents fail at this because they are lazy and inconsistent.
 

Tweak155

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I did answer: it's my car, my gas, and I pay for her phone and insurance.



I want her to know I can see her. That way she's not tempted to screw up again. She's adorable but not very bright---she would have no idea that a phone app could do that. I have her believing I installed something in the car, and she has no problem thinking that because I'm always putting gadgets together :)

No offense but you're "grounding" her for lying yet you lied to her too. Not really a good way to go about it if you ask me.

Nope. Don't need any. I have younger sisters. I am also a daughter. I know the game. I also know how stupid parents can be.

Luckily, my mom never put a tracker on me. If I fucked up, she let me fuck up. Punishment would come..but she didn't have to put spyware on my damn phone.


Maybe the OP can try one of those leashes nest time.

Typical "no I'm not but I know" responses. You really can't judge a situation until you're in it, no matter how much you think you know. This is how teenagers think until they hit their 30's + and realize they don't know jack.
 

Tweak155

Lifer
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you are so set in your ways that i'm pretty sure being your kid would not be a fun experience.

and yes, i can say this without being a parent, regardless of what you think.

You can say it all you want, doesn't make you right (or intelligent).

EDIT:

Just so I'm clear, it doesn't make you wrong (or stupid) either. But you can't go dancing around like you're right, because you can't know.
 
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Zstream

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No offense but I'm thinking you would be a terrible parent. One that would probably advocate condom/abortion, drugs, buying alcohol for a party while the child is under 18 all in the name of gaining trust/friendship with your kids?
 

purbeast0

No Lifer
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My kids don't feel that way. YOu see, rather than leave them with a phone....or internet....I choose to actually spend time with them.

It's more meaningful and valuable vs BS devices our society forces our children into.



Yes, you CAN, but that doesn't mean you have even a REMOTE clue WTF you are talking about (and you don't)

Don't worry, I was JUST LIKE YOU when I didn't have kids.

I will let Louis CK explain it to you, he is better at it (especially at 7:30 or so).....but watch the whole thing (it's worth it)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4u2ZsoYWwJA

Until you are a parent, you simply don't have the slightest clue.

um, i didn't say anything about being a parent. i said being a child of someone who is stuck in your ways like you are would not be fun. and yeah i can say that, because i am a child of someone so i have experience being a child.
 

Vdubchaos

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um, i didn't say anything about being a parent. i said being a child of someone who is stuck in your ways like you are would not be fun. and yeah i can say that, because i am a child of someone so i have experience being a child.

You only see ONE perspective, from child's point of view.

It's not even worth discussion ANYTHING Parent related with you.

Watch that video....Start at 6:24
 
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Jaskalas

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College stawman? hahaha.

So, whats the difference between a 16 year old driving her father's car and an 18 year old driving her father's car?

A good question.

OP mentioned driving experience... two years makes a difference at that age, but I'm curious if he'll stop tracking her then. If she's still driving his car, dependence comes with strings attached.

So OP, does this sort of parenting end at 18, even if it's your car, if she still lived at home while going to college? Guess we're curious as to where the line is drawn and maybe why.
 

tfinch2

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um, i didn't say anything about being a parent. i said being a child of someone who is stuck in your ways like you are would not be fun. and yeah i can say that, because i am a child of someone so i have experience being a child.

lulz
 

purbeast0

No Lifer
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You only see ONE perspective, from child's point of view.

It's not even worth discussion ANYTHING Parent related with you.

Watch that video....Start at 6:24

no need to watch a video as i'm not really concerned about it. i just know that having uptight parents who are so black and white would be awful.