I live in a country that puts babies in cages

[Doc Savage Fan]

On a positive note, what ever the hell that means these days, Dems are getting out and being seen

https://www.tcpalm.com/story/news/l...d-child-migrant-facility-homestead/716253002/

Their intentions are clear...politicize the hell out of this issue and not lift a finger to fix it. This is their golden goose for the upcoming November elections.

 

[vi edit]

I think every single elected democrat needs to group together and get in a national press conference and release a unified response. This is not who we are as a country. This is a policy that is being pushed by the administration and can immediately be stopped by the administration. We will not be used for political leverage and we will not negotiate children's lives for this President's pet projects. This is a stance of humanity and ethics and challenge the President to act appropriately.

They need to sack up as a party and fully make the administration own this.

 

[IronWing]

Their intentions are clear...politicize the hell out of this issue and not lift a finger to fix it. This is their golden goose for the upcoming November elections.

Politizing putting children in detention camps? YOU FASCIST FUCK!

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

Another fascist coward I see. You own this you fascist fuck.

I own this? Thanks for reaffirming that you're about as brain dead as they come.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

Politizing putting children in detention camps? YOU FASCIST FUCK!

I want this fixed you fucking moron.

 

[glenn1]

Of course rational enforcement based on actual needs is an option, don’t be silly. Bikes get stolen every day yet police all over the county don’t devote massive resources to prosecute every bike thief because ‘not enforcing the law is not an option’.

What you really mean is ‘I want you to support my preferred policy’, which isn’t going to happen. Your side can either cave or this can continue through the elections at which point they will be slaughtered and then cave. Your choice.

I'll take that bet. Five months of zero tolerance border control in exchange for a potential loss in the polls (which could have happened anyway) where we'll revert back to catch and release (if Dems can get a veto-proof supermajority); or alternatively cave and revert back to catch and release now five months earlier? That's quite the incentive.

 

[cytg111]

Their intentions are clear...politicize the hell out of this issue and not lift a finger to fix it. This is their golden goose for the upcoming November elections.

BUT BOTH SIDES !!!!1111!!!!

 

[cytg111]

I want this fixed you fucking moron.

Then call your president.

 

[cytg111]

I'll take that bet. Five months of zero tolerance border control in exchange for a potential loss in the polls (which could have happened anyway) where we'll revert back to catch and release (if Dems can get a veto-proof supermajority); or alternatively cave and revert back to catch and release now five months earlier? That's quite the incentive.

How much you wanna bet that the Russia investigation, Stormy Daniels etc is gonna politicise this momentum? With a little luck this is the beginning of the end.

 

[feralkid]

Their intentions are clear...politicize the hell out of this issue and not lift a finger to fix it. This is their golden goose for the upcoming November elections.

Flail on, noble enabler of the mighty baby snatcher!

 

[vi edit]

How much you wanna bet that the Russia investigation, Stormy Daniels etc is gonna politicise this momentum? With a little luck this is the beginning of the end.

If there is any quality this man exhibits, it's that of teflon skin. Nothing seems to stick to him. There are so many controversies that they overpower one another and get lost in the 24 news cycle.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Their intentions are clear...politicize the hell out of this issue and not lift a finger to fix it. This is their golden goose for the upcoming November elections.

The intention is clear. Tear families apart when it's unnecessary to blackmail Democrats. Child abuse as politics. There are solutions to problems but this rests entirely on Trump. That I support rational legislation does not mean I endorse this horror nor that I think it can be done nearly as quickly as reversing this cruelty. Even some Fox people get it

 

[cytg111]

If there is any quality this man exhibits, it's that of teflon skin. Nothing seems to stick to him. There are so many controversies that they overpower one another and get lost in the 24 news cycle.

Yea, but people are watching *now* .. all the people. Now they gotta keep the shitbag sticker stick so people dont take eyes off.

 

[dainthomas]

Their intentions are clear...politicize the hell out of this issue and not lift a finger to fix it. This is their golden goose for the upcoming November elections.

And to think I doubted Republicans could top arresting people in wheelchairs. I underestimated them again.

 

[vi edit]

Yea, but people are watching *now* .. all the people. Now they gotta keep the shitbag sticker stick so people dont take eyes off.

Then he'll just drum up some other controversy and kick the ball to another corner and watch as the press runs towards that. We are being held hostage by roughly 300 people in this country. And that's the 248 house republicans and 51 republican senators that sit on their hands and won't hold this shitbag accountable.

Until they are put to task and get off their asses and stand for what this country represents we willl remain where we are.

 

[UNCjigga]

The $64 question here is "Will Democrats support legislation to actually fix the problem?" I say no.

All 49 Democrat Senators are supporting SB 3036, the first piece of legislation created to address this crisis. I'd say it's a pretty clean bill--read it yourself and judge: https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/senate-bill/3036/text

While conservatives might decry this bill as "catch and release", nothing in that bill prevents authorities from detaining families at the border, or from detaining and separating illegals already in the interior of the United States (i.e. in cities with adequate resources.) Read it.

Republican Senators have also voiced support for the bill, or at least they had prior to their session with Trump and the introduction of 2 bills in the House. Let's see how things shake out, but I expect Trump will signal his displeasure (read: veto) for any bill that doesn't fund his wall.

 

[SMOGZINN]

Their intentions are clear...politicize the hell out of this issue and not lift a finger to fix it. This is their golden goose for the upcoming November elections.

You blame Democrats for this, when a Republican President did it, a Republican House could pass a bill without a single Democrat vote, and a Republican Senate could make it law without a single Democrat vote. But still you think that it needs to be the Democrats that fix this, because apparently you already know that the Republicans are evil and won't.

 

[dainthomas]

All 49 Democrat Senators are supporting SB 3036, the first piece of legislation created to address this crisis. I'd say it's a pretty clean bill--read it yourself and judge: https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/senate-bill/3036/text

While conservatives might decry this bill as "catch and release", nothing in that bill prevents authorities from detaining families at the border, or from detaining and separating illegals already in the interior of the United States (i.e. in cities with adequate resources.) Read it.

Republican Senators have also voiced support for the bill, or at least they had prior to their session with Trump and the introduction of 2 bills in the House. Let's see how things shake out, but I expect Trump will signal his displeasure (read: veto) for any bill that doesn't fund his wall.

Funny how it went from Mexico paying for the wall to taxpayers should pay for the wall to taxpayers better pay for the wall or I'll keep kidnapping babies.

 

[purbeast0]

Are they using foil as blankets?

https://twitter.com/DavidBegnaud/status/1008704668816560128

 

[vi edit]

Are they using foil as blankets?

https://twitter.com/DavidBegnaud/status/1008704668816560128

Technically it's mylar I think. Space/emergency blankets.

 

[SMOGZINN]

Are they using foil as blankets?

https://twitter.com/DavidBegnaud/status/1008704668816560128

To be fair those are Mylar emergency blankets. They are not very comfortable, but they are very warm.

 

[MomentsofSanity]

Are they using foil as blankets?

https://twitter.com/DavidBegnaud/status/1008704668816560128

Hey. If it's good enough for Ivanka's $5000 dress it's good enough for these kids.

 

[UNCjigga]

You blame Democrats for this, when a Republican President did it, a Republican House could pass a bill without a single Democrat vote, and a Republican Senate could make it law without a single Democrat vote. But still you think that it needs to be the Democrats that fix this, because apparently you already know that the Republicans are evil and won't.

They can't be bothered by facts, like the fact that Donald Trump's "immigration meeting" yesterday was really 5 minutes of Trump ranting, not taking questions or suggestions, and a vague endorsement of 2 bills with no clear direction on which one he'd sign. That was followed by a campaign rally speech that had nothing to do with immigration, a random shot at Mark Sanford, and 10-15 minutes of propaganda photos to make it look like something got done. That's not my spin or Democrats' spin, that's how actual Republicans who were there described the meeting.

And they have the gall to blame Democrats and say they're "milking it as a campaign issue". If anything, Democrats should've been hyping this ever since Sessions announced the policy back in April.

 

[K1052]

It would appear that Trump can stand down AF1 for any trips to Stockholm to collect his Nobel:

Trump no longer 'moral leader of free world': top rights body

US President Donald Trump is "no longer the moral leader of his country or the world", the human rights watchdog, the Council of Europe, said Wednesday amid global outrage over the White House's policy of separating migrant children from their parents.

"What is happening at the (US-Mexico) border where he (Trump) is separating children from their parents is a sign that he is no longer the moral leader of his country or the world," the Council of Europe's secretary general, Thorbjorn Jagland, told Norwegian broadcaster TV2.

"Everything he does excludes him from the role American presidents have always had," Jagland said during a trip to Moscow.

"He can not speak on behalf of the so-called free world."

The Council of Europe is a Strasbourg-based international human rights organisation with 47 signatory states.

Jagland is also one of the five members of the Norwegian Nobel Committee which annually awards the Nobel Peace Prize.

https://au.news.yahoo.com/trump-no-longer-moral-leader-free-world-top-142035527--spt.html

 

[IronWing]

I guess Trump ain't getting his Nobel Prize.