I wasn't going to believe you at first but those pics are pretty accurate. Some jackoff pulled an insurance scam/fraud on me at a light...I hit him doing 10mph at the most (including slamming on my brakes at the last second) and did about the same amount of damage to my car. One can only wonder what hitting a stationary, anchored pole would do.
erikistired
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dude your truck got pwned. and you're saying that much damage was just from sliding around a corner?
edit: maybe cars aren't built like they used to be.
I mainly going to try to not get points taking off my license... I don't care about the ticket $ as much as the points.
mugs
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Bottom line is, if you cause an accident you usually get a ticket. It'd be pretty hypocritical of the police to give tickets for speeding but not for causing accidents. You may have felt that your speed was perfectly safe, but the fact that you hit a telephone pole says otherwise.
Sorry dude. Hope your insurance doesn't screw you (rate increase).
Sorry dude. Hope your insurance doesn't screw you (rate increase).
destrekor
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after the OP's update, I actually believe the speed he stated and the damage. Front ends are supposed to buckle to absorb the impact. If it was the front end hitting dead-center with a telephone pole... well that damage makes sense. 15mph + the forward momentum of a trail blazer (or any car on ice), and then the sudden stop from an impact... yea damage won't be light. On dry conditions, the braking is actually slowing the cars forward momentum and thus the impact will be softer. You can slide on ice at 15mph on ice for quite the distance. I've found that out myself.
Knowing the local roads and what they are like after snow/ice storms is excellent, because you can prepare in advance and drive more cautiously... and you find yourself braking MUCH earlier than you would expect. This, sadly, is only after experience, which means you had the problem before. Sadly, sometimes those experiences result in a crash. I think I've been lucky and have avoided a few accidents at the last minute due to knowing how to control my truck when it appears I have no control. Very scary when your rapidly approaching a stopped car!
you don't want points taken off? you'd rather have points? I think your wording might be off, that or your very strange.
Knowing the local roads and what they are like after snow/ice storms is excellent, because you can prepare in advance and drive more cautiously... and you find yourself braking MUCH earlier than you would expect. This, sadly, is only after experience, which means you had the problem before. Sadly, sometimes those experiences result in a crash. I think I've been lucky and have avoided a few accidents at the last minute due to knowing how to control my truck when it appears I have no control. Very scary when your rapidly approaching a stopped car!
you don't want points taken off? you'd rather have points? I think your wording might be off, that or your very strange.
What are you talking about? I am at fault for driving my car? This shit happens in Michigan all the time... my agent told me to fight the ticket even. I am going to fight it and WIN... I talked with some experienced people I know what to do I hope.
The damage looks bad, but clearly shows I was going fast. It was all momentum of the car.
Tell the judge you were going between 15-20 mph, adjusting your slow pace to conditions as needed when you hit a patch of ice.
I'd say considering you got into an accident you probably were going to fast/not paying attention.
Did every other vehicle that went down the hill get into an accident? If not, then you must have been going to fast for conditions. Even if you were only doing 10mph (the damage to your car looks like more then 10mph) then maybe you should have been going 5mph. Just about everyone gets into accidents in sloppy conditions at some point... it happens. Go to court, get it reduced if you can, pay whatever the fine ends up being. You are at fault here.
In my '88 Grand Marquis I went around a corner, which ends up being 90 degrees, but it does it slowly...as in, a large curve. It was a little icy that day, not tooooo bad. I'm used to driving in bad conditions, even in a boat that's real wheel drive, living in Minnesota and all. I was going around 5 mph for that curve.
The car maintained it's velocity once the turn was "complete," meaning I slowly slid to the right. There was nothing I could do. Took a good few seconds for me to hit the ditch.
I had time to try everything in the book. Tapped my breaks, tried to accelerate out of it (not sure of which order
). Sometimes there's nothing you can do to stop the situation, especially depending on your car.
The car maintained it's velocity once the turn was "complete," meaning I slowly slid to the right. There was nothing I could do. Took a good few seconds for me to hit the ditch.
I had time to try everything in the book. Tapped my breaks, tried to accelerate out of it (not sure of which order
). Sometimes there's nothing you can do to stop the situation, especially depending on your car.I also go to MTU. Driving around here in the winter is freaking ridiculous, especially with the steep hills. I pretty much park my Taurus 6 days out of the week and only take it to food shop (walk anywhere else) - since driving is simply not worth the hassle/risk.
If you drive up here in the winter, you pretty much have to expect that your car is going to get banged up. Even with how little I drive my car, I've nearly totaled it twice this winter alone...
JulesMaximus
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I guess you should have bought an SUV, after all, we all know that nothing conquers bad weather like an SUV...
So you think its actually worth the $92/a year for rental coverage up to $600 that you will use once in a blue moon?
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Evadman
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Duh. If you start sliding, you are slowing down less (or providing less friction) then you can without sliding and using the brakes to their fullest potential. What do you think ABS does? It keeps the wheels from locking up, because locking up is bad.
Then, you turned the wheel, which actually makes it worse. You put all the tread on the tires facing a different direction than the best direction for stopping.
If you would have taken your foot off the brake entirely, and turned the wheel back closer to straight you would have been able to recover. Or at least steer away from the obstacle.
Unfortunately, there is not a ticket for 'this guy doesn't know how to drive and should never have gotten a license', the closest one is 'driving too fast for conditions. No matter how you look at this, it is 100% your fault. Well, unless you want to blame God, the Flying Spaghetti Monster, Storm from X-Men or whoever you feel like blaming for the weather.
I didn't look at the damage, so I can't tell if you were going 10 or 100, but assuming you were going 10, I can summarize this entire thread in 2 sentences.
You don't know how to drive in the snow.
You were going too fast for conditions.
Jeff7
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The damage is close to what I'd expect. My dad had a car totaled already shortly after beginning to accelerate at a traffic light - the car ahead of us stopped suddenly when something fell out of the trunk of a van in front of them. We crunched right into the car, and were then ourselves rear-ended. We couldn't have even been moving 10mph, probably closer to 5. The front end was all crunched in. The engine was making a weird noise, and the hood was jammed shut.
I couldn't have said it better. Sometimes even 3 Mph is too fast for conditions especially in REALLY slick conditions. Taking a corner on icey roads? Better take it at less than walking speeds.
GagHalfrunt
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In a one car accident the driver is ALWAYS at fault. You have to be in control of your car. If you hit something you're obviously not in control. Period.
it could have been failure to control...that is a good catch all too.
But yeah, ANYTIME the cops are called there is a 99.9999999999% someone is gonna get a ticket....even if you are by yourself.
But yeah, ANYTIME the cops are called there is a 99.9999999999% someone is gonna get a ticket....even if you are by yourself.
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