I just watched the whole Serena Williams meltdown.

[HomerJS]

She has a history of problems with the US Open. Take a look. Now every player get an occasional bad call against them but this sequence was all in one match

 

[13Gigatons]

She whined her way through the match, it was horrible to watch.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

She actually pulled out the sexism card. Unbelievable. Men were given conduct violations over TWICE as frequently as women during this years tournament, and pretty much all of the infamous major meltdowns by male players that people have been referencing resulted in violations as well.

But it's not just her behavior, which was a massive embarrassment to the sport. The response to it has been driving me up a wall. Many journalists have called her out properly but FAR to many have produced worthless shit articles defending her tantrum.

and who would have thought - It has been smashingly successful as retards everywhere come to her valiant defense. Good ol "Me Too" movement of rationalizing stupidity and acting like a child in public.

Tennis great Billie Jean King wrote on Twitter: “When a woman is emotional, she’s “hysterical” and she’s penalized for it. When a man does the same, he’s “outspoken” and there are no repercussions. Thank you, @serenawilliams, for calling out this double standard. More voices are needed to do the same.”

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...-treatment-divides-tennis-world-idUSKCN1LP0R4

 

[HomerJS]

and who would have thought - It has been smashingly successful as retards everywhere come to her valiant defense. Good ol "Me Too" movement of rationalizing stupidity and acting like a child in public.



https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...-treatment-divides-tennis-world-idUSKCN1LP0R4

Careful, for certain people that can get you elected President.

Not claiming the emotional tirade was correct, if you examine at the content off her complaints she had a valid point. Try that.

You probably don't watch much tennis. They are plenty of clips of players having meltdowns. Hell, John McEnroe was famous for it and he is one of the all time greats. I don't know why you are singling out Serena.

 

[dasherHampton]

I don't believe the narrative of this situation will ever be resolved to anyone's satisfaction.

Half believe she was mistreated grotesquely (including pretty much all of the sports media), half believe she was out of line.

No middle ground here, and it never will be achieved. Everybody just needs to believe what they want and move on.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

Careful, for certain people that can get you elected President.

Not claiming the emotional tirade was correct, if you examine at the content off her complaints she had a valid point. Try that.

You probably don't watch much tennis. They are plenty of clips of players having meltdowns. Hell, John McEnroe was famous for it and he is one of the all time greats. I don't know why you are singling out Serena.

Look repeating "You stole my points!" and "It's not fair!" after the 50th time isn't going to change the results. It's not like a ref is going to hear a statement after the 50th time and then cave to the demands at that point. Having a meltdown isn't a big deal - it happens, you get emotional, and you smash your racket and cuss someone out for 20 seconds. You get ONE warning, or ONE penalty. You don't continue it point after point, set after set and expect that it won't come and bite you in the ass.

Just knowing that the video in the OP is ~15 minutes of cut-footage showing all the meltdown across the whole time tells you the degree of how pathetic that was.

At some point, sane and rational people would have come to the BASIC UNDERSTANDING of "This isn't helping me. I should stop. I look retarded and am ruining someone else's good playing"

 

[HomerJS]

Look repeating "You stole my points!" and "It's not fair!" after the 50th time isn't going to change the results. It's not like a ref is going to hear a statement after the 50th time and then cave to the demands at that point. Having a meltdown isn't a big deal - it happens, you get emotional, and you smash your racket and cuss someone out for 20 seconds. You get ONE warning, or ONE penalty. You don't continue it point after point, set after set and expect that it won't come and bite you in the ass.

Just knowing that the video in the OP is ~15 minutes of cut-footage showing all the meltdown across the whole time tells you the degree of how pathetic that was.

At some point, sane and rational people would have come to the BASIC UNDERSTANDING of "This isn't helping me. I should stop. I look retarded and am ruining someone else's good playing"

I don't think she realized the "coaching" call was a conduct warning. As I stated previously it isn't enforced for all the other players, why was she treated differently?

Discretion would have called for the ump to call her to the chair, tell her what he saw and say if it happens again, you will be penalized.

BTW - She never cursed at the chair ump.

 

[HomerJS]

Male players coming to her defense

Male Tennis Pros Confirm Serena's Penalty Was Sexist and Admit to Saying Worse on the Court

https://www.yahoo.com/news/male-tennis-pros-confirm-serena-201400668.html


The Latest: Djokovic: Umpire changed course of Serena match

https://www.yahoo.com/news/latest-us-open-champ-osaka-grateful-opportunity-201451120--spt.html

 

[K1052]

The final of the open is probably a bad time to become a stickler for rules/behavior that men have been allowed to, largely, skate on like since forever.

Yes she was technically in the wrong but man did the officials fuck this up and ruin the day for basically everybody because reasons.

 

[HomerJS]

The final of the open is probably a bad time to become a stickler for rules/behavior that men have been allowed to, largely, skate on like since forever.

Yes she was technically in the wrong but man did the officials fuck this up and ruin the day for basically everybody because reasons.

That was her point all along.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

Male players coming to her defense

Male Tennis Pros Confirm Serena's Penalty Was Sexist and Admit to Saying Worse on the Court

https://www.yahoo.com/news/male-tennis-pros-confirm-serena-201400668.html

I don't think she realized the "coaching" call was a conduct warning. As I stated previously it isn't enforced for all the other players, why was she treated differently?

Discretion would have called for the ump to call her to the chair, tell her what he saw and say if it happens again, you will be penalized.

BTW - She never cursed at the chair ump.

Questioning their judgement alone - I don't believe - is in the code of acceptable conduct, is it? Whether you call someone an asshole or say "You cheated and stole my points!" does it really matter? You're questioning their judgement regardless and insulting their authority - of which this ump had quite a history of 30+ years IIRC.

Again, what she REALLY did wrong here wasn't what she said - it was the fact that she would not fucking drop it. 15 minutes of cut footage is CRINGE worthy. You can cite other male players all you want, I challenge you to find an example where a male would keep harassing the ump for that amount of footage. I'll place a bet right now and say it doesn't exist.

At a certain point - especially after she kept harping on after the point loss - I honestly get the suspicion that she knew she was going to lose and was just grabbing for victim culture at that point. Why lose when you can just keep pushing the narrative that the game was rigged?

The ONE ounce of any shot at condemning the ump was when he made the odd-call for coaching. Yes, I agree - based on what everyone is saying that seemed out of the ordinary. But when you act like a baby for the rest of the match that won't help your cause. At the end of the day, the odd-call was a warning - and even if you didn't realize it until the loss of point you STILL could have won if you didn't suck.

 

[HomerJS]

Questioning their judgement alone - I don't believe - is in the code of acceptable conduct, is it? Whether you call someone an asshole or say "You cheated and stole my points!" does it really matter? You're questioning their judgement regardless and insulting their authority - of which this ump had quite a history of 30+ years IIRC.

Again, what she REALLY did wrong here wasn't what she said - it was the fact that she would not fucking drop it. 15 minutes of cut footage is CRINGE worthy. You can cite other male players all you want, I challenge you to find an example where a male would keep harassing the ump for that amount of footage. I'll place a bet right now and say it doesn't exist.

At a certain point - especially after she kept harping on after the point loss - I honestly get the suspicion that she knew she was going to lose and was just grabbing for victim culture at that point. Why lose when you can just keep pushing the narrative that the game was rigged?

The ONE ounce of any shot at condemning the ump was when he made the odd-call for coaching. Yes, I agree - based on what everyone is saying that seemed out of the ordinary. But when you act like a baby for the rest of the match that won't help your cause. At the end of the day, the odd-call was a warning - and even if you didn't realize it until the loss of point you STILL could have won if you didn't suck.

I agree with you about "dropping" it she should have moved on. Most people forget the added pressure of her trying to tie the Grand Slam title record held by Margret Court.

Serena has been on the short end of "literal interpretation" of the rules they don't enforce for everyone else. She had a famous meltdown when a linesperson call a foot fault at a critical moment. She was wrong for cursing at the linesperson but replay showed the call was incorrect.

I notice other male players are coming to her defense and they don't have to do that.

I did feel bad for Naomi Osaka. She was an innocent bystander and seems like a really nice person.

 

[pete6032]

So what are the rules and penalty for such a offense? Does she know what they are or just playing ignorant of the code of conduct?

She knows what the rules are. She alleges that men commit such violations all the time but are rarely assessed a penalty for it, but that when women commit those violations they are almost always assessed, therefore in her eyes the official is sexist.

 

[Red Storm]

Congrats to Naomi Osaka.

 

[HomerJS]

a good synopsis IMO. Umpire forgetting his true role in the game

https://www.washingtonpost.com/spor...f4f84429666_story.html?utm_term=.5c41b2251571

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

a good synopsis IMO. Umpire forgetting his true role in the game

https://www.washingtonpost.com/spor...f4f84429666_story.html?utm_term=.5c41b2251571

Look, come on have a sense of rational thinking. You can call it a power play for the coaching call, fine. History shows that criticism to be valid. Anything else? No. Absolutely fucking not.

But when she keeps harassing him, what is he supposed to do? He can't change the score and you can't make demands to the ump. So she just keeps harassing him with stupid statements - is he supposed to say "She is probably an emotional woman, so I shouldn't penalize her any further even though she is constantly making code of conduct violations 50 times every 2 min"?

 

[13Gigatons]

Margaret Court believes being outplayed by Naomi Osaka led to Serena Williams' meltdown in Saturday's dramatic US Open final.

https://www.sportingnews.com/au/ten...-row-margaret-court/6g5h76a6g2of1euhlivjzbz60

 

[13Gigatons]

I hope Naomi Osaka wins a few more titles.

 

[gorcorps]

Margaret Court believes being outplayed by Naomi Osaka led to Serena Williams' meltdown in Saturday's dramatic US Open final.

https://www.sportingnews.com/au/ten...-row-margaret-court/6g5h76a6g2of1euhlivjzbz60

Of course that's why... did anybody else think otherwise? Williams wouldn't have acted like that if she was winning, I'm pretty convinced of that.

 

[Jon-T]

She received a code of conduct penalty for coaching. While its illegal it is not enforced. The chair ump decided to make an example of her.

Later when the network did a split screen it was clear she didn't see her coaches gesture. At that point the chair ump should have warned her of the results for additional conduct penalties. Racket smash was the second resulting in a point penalty. It was clear she didn't realize that would happen.

She accused the chair ump of stealing her point and called him a thief. Again the chair ump had discretion on enforcement and shoes strict enforcement. Some consideration should have been given to her trying to tie the Grand Slam title record. oft of like giving a Jordan rule for tennis. Stars are always afforded additional consideration.

In each case a warning prior to a penalty would have been the more appropriate approach

She did not receive a penalty for coaching, she revived a warning. It went exactly as you said it should, a warning.

After that she went full stupid and started racking up penalties.

Again she received a a warning not a penalty for coaching, ump just said "hey, cut that out". If you want to change the facts of the story and tell everyone that she was penalized for coaching please leave OT and go back to P&N where you behavior is more appreciated.

 

[HomerJS]

She did not receive a penalty for coaching, she revived a warning. It went exactly as you said it should, a warning.

After that she went full stupid and started racking up penalties.

Again she received a a warning not a penalty for coaching, ump just said "hey, cut that out". If you want to change the facts of the story and tell everyone that she was penalized for coaching please leave OT and go back to P&N where you behavior is more appreciated.

1st code of conduct violation is the warning. 2nd is a point penalty. She took the "coaching" accusation as a personal insult because not enforced on others and focused in on that thereby losing awareness of the first conduct violation. What you refer to as a "warning" is not the same as a code of conduct "warning"

Networks did a split screen showing she didn't even see her coaches gesture.

 

[NetWareHead]

Networks did a split screen showing she didn't even see her coaches gesture.

Moot point. The penalty is levied against the player for a code violation by the coach. It keeps the coach well behaved and following the rules.

 

[FerrelGeek]

Upskirt

They were spankies under those itty bitty skirts. Nothing to see there, son.

 

[sandorski]

They were spankies under those itty bitty skirts. Nothing to see there, son.

To the Young, that's enough.

 

[FerrelGeek]

She robbed Osaka of her biggest moment, what a bitch.

Not just her, but the people who ran the tournament. The awards ceremony was deplorable. Pretty much brow-beating Osaka into apologizing for beating Williams. But remember, Asians are almost as far down the racial ladder as white people. I'm glad that the Williams sisters obliterated to color barrier in tennis, don't get me wrong. But any respect I had for her is gone with her poor entitled little me attitude. I'm glad she got slapped down.