I just watched the whole Serena Williams meltdown.

Mayne

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What a crybaby little piece of shit. Good job Serena on looking like the biggest baby on the planet.

just check out this disgraceful performance. It will make your head shake.
 
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dasherHampton

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She actually pulled out the sexism card. Unbelievable. Men were given conduct violations over TWICE as frequently as women during this years tournament, and pretty much all of the infamous major meltdowns by male players that people have been referencing resulted in violations as well.

But it's not just her behavior, which was a massive embarrassment to the sport. The response to it has been driving me up a wall. Many journalists have called her out properly but FAR to many have produced worthless shit articles defending her tantrum.

One writer actually had the stones to title her word soup "There were no winners last night at the Open". Can you fucking believe that?

Yes - there was a winner, you idiot.
 

SKORPI0

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So what are the rules and penalty for such a offense? Does she know what they are or just playing ignorant of the code of conduct?
 

Artorias

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No one should be surprised.

It will be a great moment for the sport when both Williams "athletes" retire.
 

BoomerD

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Why? Why the fuck would ANYONE, least of all a male, watch wimmenz tennis?
 

JulesMaximus

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No one should be surprised.

It will be a great moment for the sport when both Williams "athletes" retire.

I would say that the Williams sisters have done more for women’s tennis worldwide than any other players before them. I’ve probably watched more women’s tennis than men’s since Andre Agassi retired.
 

Linux23

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I watch it because its entertaining. Glad to see one of the roid sisters go down in flames to a superior opponent.
and why is she a roid sister? because of her build or because of her emotional expression in regards to her being treated differently?
 
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PowerEngineer

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I would say that the Williams sisters have done more for women’s tennis worldwide than any other players before them.

True. And while I agree that Serena let herself get a bit out of control, it is pretty obvious that some here are forgetting (or perhaps too young to have experienced) the way that "bad boy" players like Connors and McEnroe used to berate the chair umpire and the linesmen during their matches.
 

BoomerD

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and why is she a roid sister? because of her build or because of her emotional expression in regards to her being treated differently?

Rumors have circulated for years that Serena used steroids and other perfoemance-enhancing drugs...and even had some kind of “theraputic use” waiver. True or not, I don’t know...but her build and demeanor would suggest it is.
 

dasherHampton

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True. And while I agree that Serena let herself get a bit out of control, it is pretty obvious that some here are forgetting (or perhaps too young to have experienced) the way that "bad boy" players like Connors and McEnroe used to berate the chair umpire and the linesmen during their matches.

1) They were almost always penalized for it as well.

2) They may have been angry and may have acted ridiculously, but they were not questioning the integrity of the umpire during the match.

Serena stated multiple times during the match that the umpire "stole a point from her". That's questioning the umpire's impartiality, and is way over the line.

All players in all sports have a 99% chance of getting ejected for that.
 

PowerEngineer

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1) They were almost always penalized for it as well.

2) They may have been angry and may have acted ridiculously, but they were not questioning the integrity of the umpire during the match.

Serena stated multiple times during the match that the umpire "stole a point from her". That's questioning the umpire's impartiality, and is way over the line.

All players in all sports have a 99% chance of getting ejected for that.

Fair points, but for what it's worth I would think that profanities directed at umpires or linesmen should be just as far over the line as suggestions of impartiality.

I also agree with you that the person harmed most by this whole affair is Naomi Osaka, who was clearly outplaying Serena and would have won the title with or without the awarded point and game.

Still, it seems that there are different levels of tolerance here for "bad boys" and "bad girls".
 

HomerJS

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She received a code of conduct penalty for coaching. While its illegal it is not enforced. The chair ump decided to make an example of her.

Later when the network did a split screen it was clear she didn't see her coaches gesture. At that point the chair ump should have warned her of the results for additional conduct penalties. Racket smash was the second resulting in a point penalty. It was clear she didn't realize that would happen.

She accused the chair ump of stealing her point and called him a thief. Again the chair ump had discretion on enforcement and shoes strict enforcement. Some consideration should have been given to her trying to tie the Grand Slam title record. oft of like giving a Jordan rule for tennis. Stars are always afforded additional consideration.

In each case a warning prior to a penalty would have been the more appropriate approach
 

BoomerD

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She received a code of conduct penalty for coaching. While its illegal it is not enforced. The chair ump decided to make an example of her.

Later when the network did a split screen it was clear she didn't see her coaches gesture. At that point the chair ump should have warned her of the results for additional conduct penalties. Racket smash was the second resulting in a point penalty. It was clear she didn't realize that would happen.

She accused the chair ump of stealing her point and called him a thief. Again the chair ump had discretion on enforcement and shoes strict enforcement. Some consideration should have been given to her trying to tie the Grand Slam title record. oft of like giving a Jordan rule for tennis. Stars are always afforded additional consideration.

In each case a warning prior to a penalty would have been the more appropriate approach

So...special treatment? Isn’t that as discriminatory as the sexism she’s accusing the judge of showing
 

HomerJS

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So...special treatment? Isn’t that as discriminatory as the sexism she’s accusing the judge of showing
I wanted equal treatment and that would have been not to enforce for her as well. You know in all sports champions get deference. I don't always like it but why should she be excluded.