I Just Watched 'Terminator: Salvation"...

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it was pretty good. i don't see what all the bad reviews were about. the only thing that annoyed me was sam worthington's accent going in and out of american to australian accents.

it was badass when arnold showed up.

the latter part of the beginning was the worst part of the movie, in my opinion... but it wasn't bad or anything. it's just that the other parts seemed more like a terminator movie.
 
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PottedMeat

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the only good part was the schwarzenegger cameo. and maybe the giant with its shoulder cannon. the rest was terrible. even terminator 3 was better.
 

ProfJohn

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As a movie it is ok.

As a Terminator movie it sucked, although not as bad as T3.

The last half really sucked. The story being the main problem.
 

KeithTalent

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I thought it was stinky. I enjoyed T3 more than Salvation. I actually rank that series in order 1 > 2 > 3 > 4.

KT
 

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As a movie it is ok.

As a Terminator movie it sucked, although not as bad as T3.

The last half really sucked. The story being the main problem.

lol i kept laughing at the ending of the movie because i was like, "jesus, where have i seen this steel mill terminator thing before? oh, i remember..."
 

Kirby

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gah, it was horrible. worse than 3.

2 > 1 > cold dog shit > 3 > warm dog shit > 4
 

yottabit

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I still don't understand the theories of time travel between the movies anymore.

*SPOILERS*
The first two movies made perfect sense to me (they were also the only two that had anything to do with James Cameron) and I thought they constituted an entire story arc. I thought if they made another movie it would be something like Terminator Salvation that showed the future only, but then they had to muff it up with Terminator 3.

In the first two movies the future is "no fate but what we make" The future isn't predetermined. This is hammered in in Terminator 1. At the end of Terminator 1 you think skynet will never exist because the Terminator failed to kill Sarah Connor. But in the second movie they clearly explain skynet came about because of the left over terminator parts from Terminator 1. This makes sense. Judgement day isn't inevitable, but it just happened to be possible becuase of the previous terminator's venture.

At the end of Terminator 2 Cyberdyne is destroyed, along with ALL remaining terminator parts. So I figured judgement day would never happen.

Then in Terminator 3, they shit on the entire storyline and proclaim that judgement day was inevitable. Huh? Okay, so the future must be predetermined now. I'll buy that.

Then in Terminator Salvation, the future is nothing like the future predicted in Terminator 1 and 2! So if the future IS predetermined, how can it have changed so much from the original flashforwards we saw in the previous movies? John Connor in Terminator Salvation isn't exactly the brave and charismatic leader that brings humanity together from the edge of extinction and helps them learn to fight back against the machines in the camps. He's just an asshole down on his luck who happens to be in the right place at the right time.

That's my real beef with Terminator Salvation. That and the fact that I feel like it doesn't really have a story arc. I mean it basically ends the same way it began, in the grand scheme of things I don't think anything significant happened in the movie. They took out one factory. I thought maybe something epic was going to happen like John Connor dies and Sam Worthington becomes the new leader. That would have been cool in my book. A heart transplant? In ghetto war torn camps as a hospital environment? You know people with heart transplants don't live very long...The Sam Worthington character was a much more valuable asset than John Connor. He can obviously relate to the machines better and I'm sure knows more about them, in addition to being way physically stronger.
 
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It was a good movie with lots of awesome special effects and big explosions. What more can you ask for in an action flick? Some people expect the Terminator series to be some epic sci fi masterpiece, and they'll always be disappointed because since the beginning it's been nothing but a solid action series.
 

guyver01

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it was badass when arnold showed up.

the only good part was the schwarzenegger cameo.

Except... it wasn't Arnie.

Roland Kickinger, who previously portrayed Schwarzenegger in the 2005 film See Arnold Run, was the body double.

Arnold Schwarzenegger's facial likeness was utilized via CGI, with a mold of his face made in 1984 scanned to create the digital makeup
 

fallenangel99

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So.. how was Connor able to interact with a young Kyle Reese (his father). I was confused at this.. then i didnt pay much attention to the entire movie
 

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I thought Sam Worthington was the best part of the whole movie. How terribad was the black guy when he and John Connor were testing out the signal? They drop the flying thing, shoot it w/ rocket launcher, then he says,"It works! It's beautiful!" Worst line delivery I've heard evar.
 
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gaidensensei

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As a first timer's movie I think it's passable. But if you're a follower on the Terminator series since the early debuts then yeah that's probably how it's bad. The cyborg was the better of the plot.

Lots of the CGI, special effects etc. I was surprised by CGI arnie too.
First impression of that was "Wtf man, why aren't you taking care of state affairs"
 

DaveSimmons

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John Connor was the terribad part of the movie.

(Acting like he's an oracle of the future) "Take evasive action!"

Duh. No, I'll just cut my speed and fly in a straight line now . . . .

(Still acting like he's an oracle of the future) "Eject!"

Duh. No, I'll just stay in the plane where it's nice and toasty . . . the flames are so pretty!
 

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It was a good movie with lots of awesome special effects and big explosions. What more can you ask for in an action flick? Some people expect the Terminator series to be some epic sci fi masterpiece, and they'll always be disappointed because since the beginning it's been nothing but a solid action series.

I disagree. The premise of the original was close enough to two epic Outer Limits episodes, written by none other than Harlan Ellison, that he sued Orion Pictures & won (well, settled out of court).
 

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Except... it wasn't Arnie.

Roland Kickinger, who previously portrayed Schwarzenegger in the 2005 film See Arnold Run, was the body double.

Arnold Schwarzenegger's facial likeness was utilized via CGI, with a mold of his face made in 1984 scanned to create the digital makeup

And that dude is scary big.
 

theflyingpig

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I thought it was stinky. I actually rank that series in order 1 > 2 > 3 > 4.

KT

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The characters were the worst part. They were all annoying and underdeveloped. The scenes where it focused on the characters were more fake than the big CGI action parts.
 

0roo0roo

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its ok?
you must be kidding, they dumb down skynet to the point where it can't intercept short wave radio transmissions even though its got the mind of the best chess player ever, and has anti grav ships and everything else. its simply ridiculous. the massive levels of arbitrary stupidity are just evidence of lazy and incompetent script writing.


far better writeup of the future scenario and skynet here
http://www.goingfaster.com/term2029/contents.html
actually kinda matches sarah conner chronicles direction actually. far smarter than the silliness of salvation.
 
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t2 > t1 > t4 > t3

agreed about common's line when the radio waves trick worked... pretty confsed about why they didn't use it more or why connor didn't have speakers equipped on his armor or something. i also agree about how t4 didn't look like the post-apocalyptic future depicted in t1/t2, but i was fine with it not looking or being the same. know why? because t1 and t2 were made almost over two decades ago. i wouldn't want to see it, would you? with all that pew-pewing and shit? the setting was 2018... at least make it somewhat realistic. i didn't like the skynet/matrix architect vs neo moment sam worthington had.

t3... i just can't understand wtf. i was so goddamn mad that movie came out. worst casting, scripting, storyline, chronology, plotline, everything...

however, all in all, t4 was entertaining and wasn't as terrible as everyone was saying. not nearly as good as t2 or t1, but way the hell better than that steaming vomit t3 was.
 
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There were some scenes where flames were coming out from strategically placed drums/barrels. Those things were used in old movies for special effects. Looked like old Quake game scene, cheap special effect.

Watched some scenes of Sherlock Holmes, the effects and the scenes looked much better and detailed in it.

t2 was the best. They (director, story writer, etc) should be really ashamed of t3.
 
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TwinsenTacquito

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Whatever complaint anyone has with any of the movies, you guys are just being silly if you think 3 wasn't the worst by far. Maybe you feel Salvation was worse because it offended you recently, but try to remember how bad 3 was. Then forget before you kill yourself.


Here, this will remind you:
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001763/
 

zerocool84

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Salvation sucked bad. Everyone thought it was ganna be awesome cus it had Christian Bale in it but it wasn't.