I Just Watched 'Terminator: Salvation"...

[Sureshot324]

I liked T3 more than salvation. IMO the fun of those movies is watching Terminators set loose on our modern world.

 

[darkxshade]

The only reason I thought T3 was the worst is because the terminator sent back although hotness was a step backwards from the T2000 model.

 

[Aharami]

salvation was pretty bad. bale sucked ass in it

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

nice effects, other than that it was just awful. Nasty stinky garbage

 

[oogabooga]

nice effects, other than that it was just awful. Nasty stinky garbage

Yup, had some nice effects, but as a whole the movie was pretty weak.

 

[SandEagle]

I still don't understand the theories of time travel between the movies anymore.

*SPOILERS*
The first two movies made perfect sense to me (they were also the only two that had anything to do with James Cameron) and I thought they constituted an entire story arc. I thought if they made another movie it would be something like Terminator Salvation that showed the future only, but then they had to muff it up with Terminator 3.

In the first two movies the future is "no fate but what we make" The future isn't predetermined. This is hammered in in Terminator 1. At the end of Terminator 1 you think skynet will never exist because the Terminator failed to kill Sarah Connor. But in the second movie they clearly explain skynet came about because of the left over terminator parts from Terminator 1. This makes sense. Judgement day isn't inevitable, but it just happened to be possible becuase of the previous terminator's venture.

At the end of Terminator 2 Cyberdyne is destroyed, along with ALL remaining terminator parts. So I figured judgement day would never happen.

Then in Terminator 3, they shit on the entire storyline and proclaim that judgement day was inevitable. Huh? Okay, so the future must be predetermined now. I'll buy that.

Then in Terminator Salvation, the future is nothing like the future predicted in Terminator 1 and 2! So if the future IS predetermined, how can it have changed so much from the original flashforwards we saw in the previous movies? John Connor in Terminator Salvation isn't exactly the brave and charismatic leader that brings humanity together from the edge of extinction and helps them learn to fight back against the machines in the camps. He's just an asshole down on his luck who happens to be in the right place at the right time.

That's my real beef with Terminator Salvation. That and the fact that I feel like it doesn't really have a story arc. I mean it basically ends the same way it began, in the grand scheme of things I don't think anything significant happened in the movie. They took out one factory. I thought maybe something epic was going to happen like John Connor dies and Sam Worthington becomes the new leader. That would have been cool in my book. A heart transplant? In ghetto war torn camps as a hospital environment? You know people with heart transplants don't live very long...The Sam Worthington character was a much more valuable asset than John Connor. He can obviously relate to the machines better and I'm sure knows more about them, in addition to being way physically stronger.

theoretically u are a nerd, but a true nerd would know that not all terminator parts were destroyed in the 2nd film.. arnie's arm broke off in the gears, remember. pffft

 

[eits]

theoretically u are a nerd, but a true nerd would know that not all terminator parts were destroyed in the 2nd film.. arnie's arm broke off in the gears, remember. pffft

that part of the movie was huge and had major implications for the future. if i remember correctly, t3 picked up on that part, didn't it? i don't remember... i think i tried blocking lots of that movie out.

 

[purbeast0]

i agree it was an entertaining and enjoyable movie.

most people who review movies just suck at watching movies.

same with 90% of ATOT.

 

[KeithTalent]

There is no way T2 is better than T1 for the simple reason Ed Furlong is in T2 and ruins every scene he is in.

Salvation was just boring.

KT

 

[purbeast0]

theoretically u are a nerd, but a true nerd would know that not all terminator parts were destroyed in the 2nd film.. arnie's arm broke off in the gears, remember. pffft

i have to agree, when i read his reply, i was like 'uh yea there were remnants of arnold in t2 after he died, when he broke his own arm off in the gear things'

sad to see all that effort of a post miss such a big detail.

 

[purbeast0]

There is no way T2 is better than T1 for the simple reason Ed Furlong is in T2 and ruins every scene he is in.

Salvation was just boring.

KT

t2 is much better than t1.

i've seen both of them recently as well and still think this by a mile.

 

[KeithTalent]

t2 is much better than t1.

i've seen both of them recently as well and still think this by a mile.

Yeah I own them both and have watched them recently as well. We started calling him Jar Jar Furlong by the time we got half way through T2. Just awful. Rest of the movie is good, but he ruins it for me. T1 is much more enjoyable.

KT

 

[purbeast0]

i just don't see how Ed Furlong can bother you as much as how terrible EVERYONE'S acting in t1 is.

it is downright atrocious. there is not 1 good acting job in t1.

 

[KeithTalent]

i just don't see how Ed Furlong can bother you as much as how terrible EVERYONE'S acting in t1 is.

it is downright atrocious. there is not 1 good acting job in t1.

The acting is poor, but the overall movie is a dark, B movie and I enjoy that more than T2. It's not thet Furlong's acting is bad, which it is, it's that it is extremely obnoxious. There is a difference between just bad acting and an overall completely obnoxious character.

Anyway, I know I'm in the minority here, but it's just how I feel about the films.

KT

 

[RaiderJ]

I disagree. The premise of the original was close enough to two epic Outer Limits episodes, written by none other than Harlan Ellison, that he sued Orion Pictures & won (well, settled out of court).

I read the wiki for both those episodes, and it's a stretch to say Terminator plagiarized either of those episodes.

Eighteen hundred years in the future, two foot soldiers clash on a battlefield. A random energy weapon strikes both and they are hurled into a time vortex. While one soldier is trapped in the matrix of time, the other, Qarlo Clobregnny, materializes on a city street in the year 1964.
Qarlo is soon captured and interrogated by Tom Kagan, a philologist, and his origin is discovered. Qarlo has been trained for one purpose, fighting, and that is all he knows. Progress is made in "taming" him; eventually Qarlo comes to live with the Kagan family.
But the time eddy holding the enemy soldier slowly weakens. Finally he materializes fully and tracks Qarlo to the Kagan home. In a final hand-to-hand battle, Qarlo sacrifices his life to kill the enemy and save the Kagan family.

Trent is a man with no memory of his life before the past ten days. His left hand has been replaced by an advanced computer shaped like his missing hand and protected by some transparent material. Three fingers are missing; the computer tells him they must be reattached before it can tell Trent what is going on. Trent is being hunted by a handful of humanoid aliens called the Kyben; they have the missing appendages. The action takes place in a large rundown office building. In his deadly game of hide-and-seek, he enlists the help of Consuelo Biros (Arlene Martel), a beautiful, frightened woman who works there.
For reasons unknown to him, Trent was sent into the past via a "time mirror", located in the building. A captured Kyben tells Trent that he and they are from a thousand years in the future. In that future, Earth has been conquered by the Kyben, but all the surviving humans except Trent have mysteriously vanished. The aliens are being obliterated by a "radioactive plague" that is killing all intelligent life on the planet, apparently unleashed by the humans in a last-ditch effort to repel the invasion. In a desperate attempt to find a cure for the plague and to extract whatever knowledge is stored in the hand-computer, the Kyben have followed him back in time with the missing fingers.
Eventually, Trent defeats all of his Kyben pursuers (by ripping off the medallion-shaped devices they wear to anchor them in the past), destroys the mirror, and recovers the three fingers. With the computer now whole, he learns the terrible truth: he is not a man, he is a robot. The human survivors have been digitally encoded onto a gold-copper alloy wire wrapped around the solenoid in his thorax. Immune to disease, he must protect his precious cargo for 200 years after the Kyben invasion, by which time the plague will have dissipated. Then he will resurrect the human race.
Tragically, Trent had thought he was a man; he and Consuelo had begun to develop feelings for each other. With the truth revealed, she leaves him, pity mixed with horror in her eyes. Trent is left to face 1,200 years of lonely vigil.

 

[dennilfloss]

How did no one hear the people harvester coming. That thing was insanely loud.

 

[preslove]

theoretically u are a nerd, but a true nerd would know that not all terminator parts were destroyed in the 2nd film.. arnie's arm broke off in the gears, remember. pffft

Bullshit. They disposed of everything.

 

[zerocool84]

The acting is poor, but the overall movie is a dark, B movie and I enjoy that more than T2. It's not thet Furlong's acting is bad, which it is, it's that it is extremely obnoxious. There is a difference between just bad acting and an overall completely obnoxious character.

Anyway, I know I'm in the minority here, but it's just how I feel about the films.

KT

T1 and T2 are so different it's hard to compare them. With T1 it's easy to see that it's much more low budget but the story is much better and acting isn't terrible. T2 is infinitely higher budget and more about the fx than any acting. No one would think T2 was the sequel if it had a different title cus it's so different from the first. Yes Edward Furlong is annoying as hell and his voice just makes me cringe every time I hear him. I hated him in American History X as well.

 

[13Gigatons]

I'm listening to the Terminator Soundtrack heh

 

[zinfamous]

You should have been more disappoint. it wasn't much of a true terminator movie.

T3 was better than that tripe.

 

[zinfamous]

It was a good movie with lots of awesome special effects and big explosions. What more can you ask for in an action flick? Some people expect the Terminator series to be some epic sci fi masterpiece, and they'll always be disappointed because since the beginning it's been nothing but a solid action series.

T1 was not a solid action type movie--though that could be b/c of Cameron's limited budget at the time. he probably would have made it much grander if he could.

As it stands, though, it's a classic thriller/chase flick. More tense than it is action-dependent. It's mildly noirish. the sci-fi background is almost negligible.

T2 is more of a straight-up action flick, though. I think T1 and T2 are very, very different types of movies. T1 is better, imo.

T3 is almost the same as T2. not as good, but still way better than that BS new one. blech.

 

[zinfamous]

Whatever complaint anyone has with any of the movies, you guys are just being silly if you think 3 wasn't the worst by far. Maybe you feel Salvation was worse because it offended you recently, but try to remember how bad 3 was. Then forget before you kill yourself.


Here, this will remind you:
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001763/

I've seen T3 plenty of times. hell, I have it on HD DVD (Was essentially free )

It's so much better than T4. T4 isn't even a Terminator movie. It departs from the central elements of tension and character that make Terminator flicks work: Unstoppable future tech invade the past. Wits and ingenuity needed to overcome outclassed power. Plus, there is no chase in T4. wtf?

 

[zinfamous]

There is no way T2 is better than T1 for the simple reason Ed Furlong is in T2 and ruins every scene he is in.

Salvation was just boring.

KT

John Conner in T3 > other John Conners.
Furlong sucked donkey wang.

there you go.

 

[TheStu]

John Conner goodness rating

Sarah Conner Season 2 > TS > Sarah Conner Season 1 > T3 > T2

I think that Salvation would have been a little bit cooler if John Conner was just a voice on the radio until the end. You know you keep hearing him, and the sort of reverence that those kids show for him, 'that guy on the radio that knows whats up' and all the rebels could be guided by him or something.

 

[fustercluck]

I thought it was really entertaining. I had low expectations for it and was pleasantly surprised, lots of action, plus I like Sam Worthington.