I Just Watched 'Terminator: Salvation"...

[n7]

I found Salvation entertaining, but then again, i don't know the Terminator series all that well.

I really loved Sarah Connor Chronicles though, far more than any of the movies.

Still really disappointed that SCC:T was canceled

 

[KeithTalent]

T1 and T2 are so different it's hard to compare them. With T1 it's easy to see that it's much more low budget but the story is much better and acting isn't terrible. T2 is infinitely higher budget and more about the fx than any acting. No one would think T2 was the sequel if it had a different title cus it's so different from the first. Yes Edward Furlong is annoying as hell and his voice just makes me cringe every time I hear him. I hated him in American History X as well.

Yeah, definitely. Watching them back to back it is particularly evident.

T1 was not a solid action type movie--though that could be b/c of Cameron's limited budget at the time. he probably would have made it much grander if he could.

As it stands, though, it's a classic thriller/chase flick. More tense than it is action-dependent. It's mildly noirish. the sci-fi background is almost negligible.

T2 is more of a straight-up action flick, though. I think T1 and T2 are very, very different types of movies. T1 is better, imo.

T3 is almost the same as T2. not as good, but still way better than that BS new one. blech.

Completely agree all around.

KT

 

[Imp]

I thought Sam Worthington was the part of the whole movie. How terribad was the black guy when he and John Connor were testing out the signal? They drop the flying thing, shoot it w/ rocket launcher, then he says,"It works! It's beautiful!" Worst line delivery I've heard evar.

Oh ya... Totally agree.

Overall, movie was awesome. Went to see it twice in the theatre. Bought it on Blu-ray. No way it beats T1 or T2, but those are classics, so T4 sitting between T3 is pretty damn good.

 

[lokiju]

Bale was the worst part of the movie.

If they could do a recut and exclude all his scenes and only include the Marcus stuff it'd be better.

Also what in the hell was up with him jumping from a helicopter into the ocean and somehow not only getting close enough to a sub he couldn't see but also gaining access to it!?!?!?!? That was the single worst scene in the movie IMO.

Otherwise I was fairly entertained by the movie and would see another follow up in hopes that it'd be better all around.

 

[DaveSimmons]

> Also what in the hell was up with him jumping from a helicopter into the ocean and somehow not only getting close enough to a sub he couldn't see but also gaining access to it!?!?!?!? That was the single worst scene in the movie IMO.

A cassette tape from mom told him where the sub was? (Gah.)

 

[yottabit]

http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/bum-reviews/7348-bumterm

Yotta : My biggest beef with T3 and TS is the stupid hydrogen cell concept. Ahnold in T1 and T2 would have blown sky high

Haha I never even thought about that with the fuel cell, that is pretty funny.

Yes that was a glaring oversight on my part I forgot about the arm that was leftover in the gear (I always picture John Connor throwing that arm into the foundry but he throw's the other one). However the arm I don't see as being very meaningful... the whole plot of the terminator series revolves around creating artificial intelligence. Cyberdyne wasn't reverse engineering the arm to create a neural net processor, they were reverse engineering the chip from the terminator and all the chips were destroyed in T2. I find it hard to believe that they would create sentient life from an arm. I think a more realistic argument would be that maybe the crew didn't destroy all the data at cyberdyne.

Another big gripe I have with T4 is that the future isn't nearly as dark and grim as it is in T1 and T2. I was expecting it to be a hardcore, R rated horror type flick. When I found out it was going to be PG-13 I was so dissapointed. Also, the terminators weren't supposed to be the standing ground army of the robots, only their infiltrators, and they really didn't push that point home at all in T4. They didn't even have a good presence of some of the cool robots like the hunter-killer tanks that you saw so much in the previous ones. Sad day all the way around for me :/

 

[biggestmuff]

Just watched this movie last night. Some of the big action sequences were entertaining and fun to watch, but the movie as a whole was garbage. The Terminator characters were there, but the movie fit the Terminator formula.

Most of the standalone CGI looked really good, but some of it didn't blend well with the actors. I was distracted by several scenes that were obviously shot interior-for-exterior. Pulled me out of the film.

Why was the character Marcus needed? He unintentionally brought Kyle and John together and he helped John gain access to Skynet. Besides that, what was his point? Up until the very end where he

Spoiler

donates his heart to John

, it just felt like Marcus was being introduced in TS to be utilized in the next movie. I expected a turnaround in his character or for Skynet to activate his "kill switch", but it never happened. Marcus just seemed like he didn't have a purpose.

John and Kyle were poor characters. They're supposed to be strong heroes, but once again, they just felt like introductions for use in later movies.

The film's sound wasn't impressive. I got really tired of hearing the Stylus RMX Chaos Buzz effect every time a Terminator was onscreen. It'll be a while before another Terminator movie can top Rydstrom's design for T2.

Elfman's music was forgettable. I can't recall any original cue. Lots of Stormdrum 2, but no memorable rhythmic idea. Only once during the film did I hear the familiar, somber melody that Fiedel wrote but it wasn't allowed to breath and fully develop. I don't really know who should be blamed for that; MC G's directions to Elfman, time constraints, budget?

EDIT: I forgot to add that the worst part of the film was the numerous homages or reflections to the three previous films. We get it already!

http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/bum-reviews/7348-bumterm

Yotta : My biggest beef with T3 and TS is the stupid hydrogen cell concept. Ahnold in T1 and T2 would have blown sky high

The Series 101s in T and T2 were Model 800s. The Series 101 in T3 was a Model 850. I can't explain why the fuel cells were sitting on a table in the Model 800 factory in TS. Oh, yes I can; poor writing.

 

[BudAshes]

Am I the only one who is sick of christian bale? He used to be one of my favorite actors and now I feel like i've oded on his preformances.

 

[dighn]

The Series 101s in T and T2 were Model 800s. The Series 101 in T3 was a Model 850. I can't explain why the fuel cells were sitting on a table in the Model 800 factory in TS. Oh, yes I can; poor writing.

I think it's a different timeline. JC did say Skynet was advancing faster than expected. That's an annoyance I have with sci-fi film/TV featuring time travel - they can pretty much alter continuity whenever they want, rendering everything irrelevant.

Anyway I thought the movie was entertaining. It's bad sci-fi but that's par for the course.