I just ordered the Phillips Airfryer

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Perknose

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Perhaps I am using my personal taste to cloud my judgement, but the explosion in popularity of greasy fast food cannot be a coincidence in the decline of air poppers that the most lazy would end up with very plain popcorn indeed.

On a personal note, I love my air popper, which I probably did get from a thrift shop. ;) But then, I'm not a big fan of greaseball popcorn. Popcorn is a blank medium, not unlike tofu, which you can spice in a wide variety of ways. One of my favs is a combo of tamari (soy sauce) and nutritional yeast. Another is garlic powder, onion powder, and cayenne pepper.

Similarly, with corn on the cob you can substitute lemon juice and pepper for salt and butter (although I still love the latter as well.)

Somewhere down the line, in a couple of years or so, I'll run across one of these air fryers in a thrift shop and maybe give it a whirl.
 

Dirigible

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Similarly, with corn on the cob you can substitute lemon juice and pepper for salt and butter (although I still love the latter as well.)

Lemon juice and pepper instead of BUTTER?!?!?! D:

You and my mom should hang out. I still have the childhood scars from when she tried to convince me that yoghurt is a good substitute for sour cream. Also: carob. :mad:
 

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Lemon juice and pepper instead of BUTTER?!?!?! D:

You and my mom should hang out. I still have the childhood scars from when she tried to convince me that yoghurt is a good substitute for sour cream. Also: carob. :mad:
yeah, my mom tried that one too. it didn't go well.
 

RossMAN

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So did anyone buy the Big Boss from Neweggflash?

Go here for details on Amex $10 off $50 offer.
 

momeNt

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So far, I've made chicken wings, brauts, chicken thighs, chicken nuggets, hot dogs. Anything that probably comes in a box and can be baked or fried, can be done by the airfryer.

Tried fresh cut potato fries and chips, but I can't seem to get them right or maybe the airfryer just not the right thing for that kind of thing.

Potatoes actually absorb the oil as they are being fried. Chicken with the skin on does not. So it would be impossible to duplicate without actual fat added to the potato. No fat is added to chicken because the skin itself is nothing but fat.
 

Jeraden

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So does food come out like it's actually been fried or is it just oven food with a sprinkle of oil on it?

I'm interested in cooking wings, fries, fish and such and find that using a deep fryer simply uses too much oil. I'm not totally sold on how close the results to deep frying would actually be.

Wings come out awesome in the airfryer. I posted a while back in this thread about how they were good, but I liked the rotisserie better. I made some again last week in the airfryer and I honestly have to say they were the best wings I ever had. I'm not sure what I did differently this time. I made them and then tossed them in some wing sauce I bought and they were better than any wings I got from a wing place.

I also tried sausage links recently in it, and those came out well too. They end up nice and crisp on the outside, and much more evenly cooked than doing them on the stove.

I use it almost every other day for something, it's honestly one of the best kitchen purchases I've ever made. Depending on what you are cooking, I'd say it comes pretty close to what real fried food would be like. Especially things with a skin/resistant to absorbing oil. The advantage of a deepfryer is it instantly seals the outside to prevent oil absorption. The airfryer isn't as instant, so more porous foods will absorb more and not turn out quite the same.
 

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I have the actifrier and its great, $180. This works in the same manner as the mentioned unit. Get the larger size as it's better.
 

Kaido

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Finally bit on one of these. Mine just arrived today, got the Philips AirFryer XL: (p/n HD9240/34)

http://www.usa.philips.com/c-p/HD9240_34/avance-collection-airfryer-xl-with-rapid-air-technology

Since this thread is a couple years old, just a quick synopsis: the term "Air Fryer" is a bit of a misnomer; it's more of a compact convection oven. It basically has a single broiler coil on top & some fans to circulate the air, similar to a TurboChef Oven. They advertise it as a sort of a lightweight fryer, which I guess it can do if you coat the food with a bit of oil, but really it's just a mini oven with fans. Think of it as a high-temp toaster oven with fans to circulate the hot air around. "Mini broiler convection oven" is probably how I'd name it. It has two primary use-case scenarios:

1. Cooking frozen convenience foods in half the time
2. Cooking smaller batches of food quickly & easily

Basically, if you eat a lot of frozen stuff (chicken nuggets, chicken tenders, wings, tater-tots, fries), this is the perfect machine. Dump the food in, hit the button, and enjoy crispy food. Great if you have kids who live off that stuff or enjoy it yourself. While I don't do a lot of packaged foods, I have been doing more with make-ahead freezer meals, so I'm very interested to try this out with those things, as well as with fresh stuff like beef & chicken.

Supposedly these are pretty popular in Australia & Europe; not really sure why they're not marketed all that much in the U.S. For starters though, I think the cost has something to do with it - the price is horrendous. Philip's largest model, the XL, goes for $350 ($299 on sale sometimes); you can literally get a full-sized flat-top electric oven for $100 more at Home Depot. So the finances don't make a lot of sense to me. They do have sales from time to time & you can score some nice deals online if you look around (Williams Sonoma usually has free shipping plus a 15% off coupon floating around), but still, it's a lot of money for an appliance.

What is nice is (1) it preheats in 3 minutes, and (2) it has fans, which help cook the food faster. The alternative (aside from getting a full-sized convection oven) is getting a convection toaster oven, which typically run about $150. However, after reading reviews, the Air Fryers still cook much faster - about 50% faster, which I'm assuming is due to the smaller size. So if you're usually just cooking for yourself, or for you & say a S.O., the Air Fryer makes more sense because it's pretty zippy. My goal with this was to cook food faster, so I opted for this over the convection toaster oven.

I chose the XL for several reasons. First, the basket design is nice. The XL is made up of three pieces: the appliance itself, the drip pan, and the basket with handle. When you pull on the handle, the entire base slides outs and then you lift the basket up. The pan is also removable for cleaning, and there are several accessories available (racks, grill plate, etc.). This is a lot different than other models where you have to wear oven gloves to handle things. Second, it was their biggest model, which unfortunately isn't saying much. My hand for reference:

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A lot of reviews complained about the even smaller trays on other models & having to do several batches of food to get an adult-sized meal, which is probably the main reason I opted for the XL. The appliance itself is laughably large, basically a giant egg. The performance over time will tell if it deserves a permanent place on my countertop (currently I only keep my toaster oven & blender there), but as I have a tiny galley kitchen with minimal counterspace, probably not. The basket is not very big, so I'll see what works & what doesn't. One thing to note is that you have to make sure you don't stuff it so full that the air can't pass through & properly cook the food.

The temperature range is from 150 to 390F. The manual says it takes 3 minutes to preheat. Operation is pretty simple: set the temperature, set the time, and then it starts cooking. If you don't set the time, it shuts off after 5 minutes. It also turns itself off completely after 30 minutes when no action is taken. Back to heat, it has 9 temperature ranges, all in 30F increments:

1. 150F
2. 180F
3. 210F
4. 240F
5. 270F
6. 300F
7. 330F
8. 360F
9. 390F

The lower temperature options are pretty interesting...I use a dehydrator for stuff like jerky, but turns out you can make it in one of these too:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMa47Z8FOsI

Bunch more recipes from Gabby of Appliances Online Australia on Youtube:

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=gabby+airfryer

As far as accessories go, I did pick up the grill plate, unfortunately priced at $50:

http://www.amazon.com/Philips-HD9911-90-Airfryer-X-Large/dp/B010KCOTCW/

However, it was a highly recommend accessory based on the reviews & recipes I read. My 7" springform pan fits perfectly inside (I use that primarily for cheesecakes in my Instant Pot) & I already have some wire racks that will fit. Very curious to try out baking, especially for stuff like my pre-frozen dinner rolls & cookie dough. I did a first run with a frozen chicken pot pie, it did a good job baking it (even got the crust brown!); came out a lot better than it does in the microwave. I kept checking the temps & actually overcooked the pie by 10 degrees, so it definitely does cook fast!

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Other suggested accessories:

1. Rock salt (Morton ice cream salt) - some of the reviewers suggested putting this on the bottom of the pan to handle food leaks, like fat drippings, so it wouldn't smoke. Then just shake it up once in awhile to distribute.
2. Oven gloves - the unit is a mini oven, so if you need to move it while hot, some oven gloves or potholders are good to have. On the design of the XL, the handle it attached to the basket & lets you slide the pan out, so I haven't had to use them yet.
3. Misto - this is a little ten-buck device that lets you atomize stuff like olive oil into a spray. This is useful for doing low-oil air frying, especially for crisping stuff up.

Two additional things to note: noise & heat. It is pretty noisy. Sounds the same as when a hairdryer or laundry dryer is in the room next to you. Not annoying but fairly loud due to the fans. Also, the heat comes out of the back vent, and it gets fairly hot, like a hair dryer - the underside of my wall-mounted cabinets got pretty warm. I have one open space on my counter without a cabinet above it, so I'll probably be using it either there or on the stovetop due to that heat blow-off.

Pros:
* 3-minute preheat time
* Can cut your food cook time in half
* Awesome for finishing off sous vide projects
* Can handle baked goods
* Accessories make it more useful

Cons:
* Enormous size on counter
* Even the largest "XL" model has a relatively small basket
* Horrendously expensive
* Official accessories are stupid expensive too
* Noisy
* Hot air vent from the back makes me worry about my wall-mounted cabinets
* Teflon coatings appear to come off easily with scrubbing (recommend soaking)
* Only works in 30F increments, so you can't dial it in exactly to the degree you want

I have a good 20+ items on my AirFryer to-do list, so I'll report back over the next month or two as I play with it more. It sounded like it would be a great companion to my sous vide projects to get stuff crispy with 360 degrees of heat (Maillard reaction starts at about 285F).

TL;DR: Convection oven appliance preheats in 3 minutes, cuts cook time in half, 150 to 390F temps. Catch is that it's expensive & cooking basket is somewhat small.
 

Kaido

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I threw a piece of beef chuck steak in for 12 minutes @ 390F just to try it out:

(not a burger)

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Not great lighting, it's actually pink inside:

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Not bad:

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It was cooked, and internal temp was correct, but not really any crust on the outside (I like crust). I'll have to try with a bigger, better steak next time.
 

Hugo Drax

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Is it made in china? If it is then the markup on it is insane considering the bill of materials to build them.
 

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I bought one of these a couple of years ago simply because of the raving I saw on the internet. My wife and I absolutely love it. It even rocks for reheating food.

It's the only method I've ever seen for reheating McDonalds french fries. Just three minutes or so and they're like fresh from the restaurant. Hot and perfectly crunchy.
 

MagnusTheBrewer

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I bought one of these a couple of years ago simply because of the raving I saw on the internet. My wife and I absolutely love it. It even rocks for reheating food.

It's the only method I've ever seen for reheating McDonalds french fries. Just three minutes or so and they're like fresh from the restaurant. Hot and perfectly crunchy.
If that's not a solution in search of a problem, I've never seen one.
 

dud

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Just a glorified convection oven hoping to cash in on a cool name.



Agreed. I have a little gadget I bought for $33 at HD that uses air to "fry" (give me a break) about a dozen large drumsticks and some fries at up to 450 degrees. It is our preferred "healthy" cooking method as most of the fat runs out of the food and into the bottom. There is no reason to spend this much on a convection over unless you have a few bucks left over from paying off you $10,000 watch.
 

BUTCH1

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I bought something very much like this at HD about a year ago for a little over $30:

http://www.amazon.com/EWave-Turbo-Glass-Convection-EWGCO1W/dp/B002M3GEQ2


It works very well ...

Yea, I'd imagine the $399 unit has more bells and whistles but it's WAY overpriced. I have a full-sized convection flat-top range that I got at a scratch+dent store for $550, there was nothing wrong with it either as the store owner sold non-damaged stuff as well. What's nice about your unit is the $$ you save on the electric bill, even though my convection oven cuts out a lot of the cooking time your still running a full-sized oven and now the AC has to deal with the added heat load.
 

Kaido

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I tried out this French toast recipe, came out decent:

http://www.5minutesformom.com/107832/airfryer-french-toast-sticks-recipe/

It was basically crispy puffed French toast, had a nice texture, not eggy or bready at all. The only catch is, the stock basket hardly holds enough to even feed one person. Had to do a couple batches. The unit that dud got above looks like it has a much larger capacity.

Next on the list: NY strip steak, sous vide hanger steak, BSCB (pounded into a flatter cutlet), and some puff pastry projects. Also have some misc. frozen stuff to experiment with.
 

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Similarly, with corn on the cob you can substitute lemon juice and pepper for salt and butter (although I still love the latter as well.)

Another option for corn is lime juice, cilantro, a little salt and some chili powder.
 

Kaido

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Cornish hen came out great. For five bucks, waaaaaay better than Subway:

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Also did some cheese blintzes...I have to get used to the timing, stuff cooks FAST - I blew out the bottom of the pastries haha. Pam spray definitely works for helping give things an enhanced crust. I followed a recipe online & sprayed the bird a couple times during cooking. I did have to flip it to get both sides crispy, so it's not really a true 360-degree crisp.
 

zinfamous

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How did I know this thread was bumped by Kaido?

:D

nice bump, though.

These are pretty awesome for small batches of food, ime. A friend's wife uses hers religiously for making Taiwanese 2x-fried popcorn chicken, and dare I say it is probably some of the greatest chicken I have ever eaten.