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I got the Holy Ghost today!!!!!

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Originally posted by: Metalloid
Started going to an Apostolic church with my girlfriend about 6 months ago. Got re-baptized in the name of Jesus Christ in February, and have been seeking the Holy Ghost ever since.

Today was the day!!!!

I spent about a half an hour at the alter with all of the church's ministry praying over me. I eventually felt the spirit of God take complete control of me, and I spoke in other tongues as the spirit gave me the ability to.

Christian bashers can flame if they truly find it necessary, but this is the happiest day of my life, and nothing can bring me down right now.

Even if you aren't religious, at least be happy for me. 😀

Um. Wtf man?
 
Originally posted by: FFMCobalt
Originally posted by: notfred
uh... I know I'm not the only one who thinks stories like this sound utterly ridiculous. I know you enjoyed your day and all. But come on, how can anyone with half a brain really beleived you were possessed by spirits... it's about as realistic as "The Excorcist".

apples and oranges


Isnt chaotic a mean one?

I agree chaotic. Crazy man.....
 
Glossolalia

An academic Internet mailing list, "The Linguist List" focused on glossolalia in early 1995.

Some of the subscribers noted that glossolalia had a simple primitive structure, and exhibited much repetition of individual sounds.

One commented that the words spoken within a given church tended to be similar, and unlike the sounds heard within in another congregation.

Another commented that his observations among American churchgoers showed that they "seem to latch onto and then repeat sounds that sound foreign to them, and intersperse the name 'Jesus' in between the sounds."

Still another said that: "there are two continental charismatic traditions - a French one concentrating on melodious spontaneous song and a German/English one concentrating on speech."

A subscriber stated that "Some years ago as an undergraduate, I memorized the first eleven lines to Beowulf. Occasionally I recited them to people (I still do). Once I recited them to a friend from Alabama, and she told me that if I did that back where she came from, folks would say I was speaking in tongues."

The moderator noted that the: "native language of the speaker was a pretty good predictor of the kinds of sounds that would occur in glossolalia; one general pattern was that sounds perceived as generally marking "foreign" speech (whatever that may mean) would occur, while sounds perceived as typical of the native language would not. Thus, for American English speakers, /r/ would be rendered as the alveolar trill, never as the American retroflex; on the other hand, these speakers would not include the low front vowel in their glossolalia, /ae/-as-digraph, because that's perceived as a typically "American" sound for some reason. On the other hand, truly exotic sounds--those not typical of the native language, but that don't happen to be familiar to speakers of the language--would tend not to occur: American English speakers don't produce clicks in their glossolalia."

D.J. James quotes some conclusions of William Samarin: "When the full apparatus of linguistic science comes to bear on glossolalia, this turns out to be only a facade of language ? although at times a very good one indeed. For when we comprehend what language is, we must conclude that no glossa, no matter how well constructed, is a specimen of human language, because it is neither internally organized nor systematically related to the world man perceives."
 
Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: Kenazo
Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: Tinkerhell
Explain something to me: Why do you call Jesus the Lord?

I think that needs it's own thread. 🙂

Shoot, that question has started whole wars!

Yeah, but those folks weren't ASKING. 🙂


(If there is a God) then God is the Lord, not some man that people claim to be the son of God. Doesn't this go against the first commandment "Thou shalt have no other Gods before me" ? Regardless of your beliefs, there is no proof that Jesus is the son of God. The Bible is a storybook.
 
Originally posted by: Tinkerhell
Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: Kenazo
Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: Tinkerhell
Explain something to me: Why do you call Jesus the Lord?

I think that needs it's own thread. 🙂

Shoot, that question has started whole wars!

Yeah, but those folks weren't ASKING. 🙂


(If there is a God) then God is the Lord, not some man that people claim to be the son of God. Doesn't this go against the first commandment "Thou shalt have no other Gods before me" ? Regardless of your beliefs, there is no proof that Jesus is the son of God. The Bible is a storybook.

I respect your opinions that ya got there. 🙂
 
Originally posted by: Tinkerhell
Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: Kenazo
Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: Tinkerhell
Explain something to me: Why do you call Jesus the Lord?

I think that needs it's own thread. 🙂

Shoot, that question has started whole wars!

Yeah, but those folks weren't ASKING. 🙂


(If there is a God) then God is the Lord, not some man that people claim to be the son of God. Doesn't this go against the first commandment "Thou shalt have no other Gods before me" ? Regardless of your beliefs, there is no proof that Jesus is the son of God. The Bible is a storybook.

I am not Christian, so you are preaching to the choir (pun intended). 🙂
But I will say what I said before, of course there is no proof. It wouldn't be a belief if there was proof. It would be knowledge.
 
Originally posted by: FFMCobalt
Originally posted by: Tinkerhell
Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: Kenazo
Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: Tinkerhell
Explain something to me: Why do you call Jesus the Lord?

I think that needs it's own thread. 🙂

Shoot, that question has started whole wars!

Yeah, but those folks weren't ASKING. 🙂


(If there is a God) then God is the Lord, not some man that people claim to be the son of God. Doesn't this go against the first commandment "Thou shalt have no other Gods before me" ? Regardless of your beliefs, there is no proof that Jesus is the son of God. The Bible is a storybook.

I respect your opinions that ya got there. 🙂

You cannot dismiss the fact that what I say is possibly true.
 
Originally posted by: Tinkerhell
Originally posted by: FFMCobalt
Originally posted by: Tinkerhell
Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: Kenazo
Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: Tinkerhell
Explain something to me: Why do you call Jesus the Lord?

I think that needs it's own thread. 🙂

Shoot, that question has started whole wars!

Yeah, but those folks weren't ASKING. 🙂


(If there is a God) then God is the Lord, not some man that people claim to be the son of God. Doesn't this go against the first commandment "Thou shalt have no other Gods before me" ? Regardless of your beliefs, there is no proof that Jesus is the son of God. The Bible is a storybook.

I respect your opinions that ya got there. 🙂

You cannot dismiss the fact that what I say is true.

Yes I can. 🙂

<edit>

ah, you changed your post. That's a whole nother ball park.
 
Originally posted by: FFMCobalt
Originally posted by: Tinkerhell
Originally posted by: FFMCobalt
Originally posted by: Tinkerhell
Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: Kenazo
Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: Tinkerhell
Explain something to me: Why do you call Jesus the Lord?

I think that needs it's own thread. 🙂

Shoot, that question has started whole wars!

Yeah, but those folks weren't ASKING. 🙂


(If there is a God) then God is the Lord, not some man that people claim to be the son of God. Doesn't this go against the first commandment "Thou shalt have no other Gods before me" ? Regardless of your beliefs, there is no proof that Jesus is the son of God. The Bible is a storybook.

I respect your opinions that ya got there. 🙂

You cannot dismiss the fact that what I say is true.

Yes I can. 🙂

You missed the all important edit. "POSSIBLY"
 
Originally posted by: Tinkerhell
Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: Kenazo
Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: Tinkerhell
Explain something to me: Why do you call Jesus the Lord?

I think that needs it's own thread. 🙂

Shoot, that question has started whole wars!

Yeah, but those folks weren't ASKING. 🙂


(If there is a God) then God is the Lord, not some man that people claim to be the son of God. Doesn't this go against the first commandment "Thou shalt have no other Gods before me" ? Regardless of your beliefs, there is no proof that Jesus is the son of God. The Bible is a storybook.

I agree with you.
 
Originally posted by: Psycho16
Originally posted by: Tinkerhell
Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: Kenazo
Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: Tinkerhell
Explain something to me: Why do you call Jesus the Lord?

I think that needs it's own thread. 🙂

Shoot, that question has started whole wars!

Yeah, but those folks weren't ASKING. 🙂


(If there is a God) then God is the Lord, not some man that people claim to be the son of God. Doesn't this go against the first commandment "Thou shalt have no other Gods before me" ? Regardless of your beliefs, there is no proof that Jesus is the son of God. The Bible is a storybook.

I agree with you.

Most open-minded people do 🙂
 
Originally posted by: Tinkerhell
Can I ask another question: Do you believe in the creation story as it is said in the Bible.

I think the creation story was an attempt to explain where everything came from, from the viewpoint of a man that lived thousands of years ago. I'm sure there are parts that are not correct, and completely unprovable. Likewise, today we attempt to explain what we can using the knowledge we now have, although almost entirely unprovable also. Both are probably right, from their respective points of view.

Likewise, if I was standing 2 feet away from the CN Tower, I would describe it as being grey and made out of cement. If you were 5 miles away, you would describe it as being very tall, having a big observation deck, etc. Both are correct, and not exclusive of each other.


^^ not a very "Christianese" answer.
 
Originally posted by: Psycho16
Originally posted by: Tinkerhell
Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: Kenazo
Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: Tinkerhell
Explain something to me: Why do you call Jesus the Lord?

I think that needs it's own thread. 🙂

Shoot, that question has started whole wars!

Yeah, but those folks weren't ASKING. 🙂


(If there is a God) then God is the Lord, not some man that people claim to be the son of God. Doesn't this go against the first commandment "Thou shalt have no other Gods before me" ? Regardless of your beliefs, there is no proof that Jesus is the son of God. The Bible is a storybook.

I agree with you.

Then you believe that "God the father" is a completely separate entity from "God the son" and "God the Holy Spirit"?
 
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