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IsLNdbOi said:
I have an AAS in Computing & Information Technology and an A+ certification, but haven't been able to find an IT job around here.
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without experience and certs i can see that being an issue. the hospital i work at hires on AS degrees with some experience, but im not sure how far you can really advance without a bachelors degree.

ive been good at getting internships, so hopefully that will polish up my resume.
/needs to work towards a certification or two by the time the bachelors is done
 
preslove said:
OP, talk to military recruiters about educational benefits. You probably can't get into the airforce, but I don't see why you can't get into the navy. Join the navy, see the world, and get a freaking college degree.
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huh?

why not air force?
and why would the navy accept him?
 
The most important thing you can do to increase your pay is to go back to school and get a MARKETABLE technical degree or certification or trade.

Go to community college and start taking classes (between work) once you've narrowed down a field you think you can get good enough grades in or certs you can get completed competently. Set up an appointment with community college advisor AND tech department head for advise on good paying careers. Go ONLY to CC...AVOID at all costs, private expensive tech schools (ITT, Devry, U. of Phoenix, etc) that'll rape you for life with their loans.

The best pay/return on effort I've seen is getting certs in Cisco related networking (CCNA to start, CCIE($100k+), etc). I know several people at Cisco/Juniper, etc who only had a high school degree who are still VERY YOUNG, have become managers, and are earning over $100k from the Cisco certs they've worked on.

In Silicon Valley/tech networking world, tech certs/degrees are worth more than an MBA and pay accordingly and you can rise up the ranks fairly quickly without prejudice you have in other industries where only people from prestigious universities are mentored to rise.

While taking your classes, FIND internships in your related field. Even if they're unpaid, contacts will lead to other contacts and eventually some serious contacts/leads (it ALWAYS works out this way). These internships are GOLD as they count as "work experience" and sets you immediately and totally apart from the other "no work experience schmo"s from your school!

......If you're willing to move (especially Silicon Valley), the job offers will be there! Heck, after a couple of years in the industry, you may find a job that you can "telecommute" and still do your tech job from your home town. Again, I know of SEVERAL people who DO this (earn six figs, live in Hawaii, etc and work from home while going to the company's satellite offiice once or twice week!!)

The MOST IMPORTANT thing to understand in all of this is to find a field that you can do mentally/competently. Know your limitations. You don't need an EE degree to be successful. No field is perfect and people ALWAYS complain at EVERY level. Very good pay may ease your burdens and getting it is easier than you think if you know where and how to find it, are WILLING to be CONSISTENT to get to the goal (i.e. don't abandon your studies--the sooner you get the education out of the way, the sooner you can start earning and climbing the mountain) and have the PATIENCE (i.e. unrealistic "show me the money" sense of immediate entitlement will make you unhappy) to put in the time in internships and less than ideal "jobs" to get you the experience to eventually work at the "real deal" companies.....
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The bottom line in your next few years is to get educated(!!).......in the RIGHT MARKETABLE field that your brain/body can realistically handle. Keep chipping away at the marble stone. Eventually the chipping will get you that statue! 😀
 
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Join the Marine Corps. Get some OJT in something, then use the GI Bill to pay for school and get your degree.

That would mean you'd stop being a pussy at some point though.


If you have a screwed up background, the Army will take you. They have the lowest standards and will take anyone.
 
Nintendesert said:
Join the Marine Corps. Get some OJT in something, then use the GI Bill to pay for school and get your degree.

That would mean you'd stop being a pussy at some point though.


If you have a screwed up background, the Army will take you. They have the lowest standards and will take anyone.
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I would avoid the military for the simple fact that you'd be sent into the field and distract you from your objectives. No pay is worth that!

Plus, if you saw the 60 minutes documentary last week of how many people return from the field and are jobless, homeless, injured and with mental problems, I'd stay faaaaar away from the military route! There is no way to positively spin the military (and I was in the military -- AF and Army -- NCO/Officer). You're just chop meat in this organization....I've witnessed too many stories of how they use you and dispose of you when they're done (from Academy folk down to NCO level).

http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=6966795n&tag=related;photovideo


Best way to finish an education is to do it with the LEAST DISTRACTIONS (i.e. military will screw your mind/body and hinder short/medium-term objectives) and NOT have your education POSTPONED not...one...day!
 
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He works at target and can't even live on his own. How difficult is it going to be to try and get educated at a reputable university?

There are a ton of job fields in the military that are highly technical and sought after in the civilian world. He gets out and has priority for most government jobs and will be making a ton more than he will at target, part-time at 8.50 an hour.

Just because you left disgruntled doesn't make your experience typical of people that serve. Iraq has wound down and Afghanistan will be too.

As long as he doesn't sign up to be a grunt/infantryman he's going to get some decent job skills. He can get contracted into something IT related and get all his certifications and come out making good money.

He get into the networking/data guys he's coming out with Security+, Net+, A+, CCNA, maybe even CISSP plus all the other school he does for the job counts towards college credit.

He's not trying to finish an education, he has NONE.

The technical side of the military is a good move for him if he wants to take a big step to better himself rather than bitching about it for another 7 years with other part time workers at Target.
 
dr150 said:
I would avoid the military for the simple fact that you'd be sent into the field and distract you from your objectives. No pay is worth that!

Plus, if you saw the 60 minutes documentary last week of how many people return from the field and are jobless, homeless, injured and with mental problems, I'd stay faaaaar away from the military route! There is no way to positively spin the military (and I was in the military -- AF and Army -- NCO/Officer). You're just chop meat in this organization....I've witnessed too many stories of how they use you and dispose of you when they're done (from Academy folk down to NCO level).

http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=6966795n&tag=related;photovideo


Best way to finish an education is to do it with the LEAST DISTRACTIONS (i.e. military will screw your mind/body and hinder short/medium-term objectives) and NOT have your education POSTPONED not...one...day!
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Don't listen to this liberal garbage. This fool has no idea what he's talking about. He's just another liberal sheep bleating the same noise as the rest of the fools. It's sad that the true liberals, the thinking men, like myself, have to deal with these fools in our ranks. I honestly have second thoughts about identifying myself as a liberal because of the vast amounts of idiots who *think* they are liberal when they are in fact, idiots.
To the OP, the military has many opportunities for you, and will benefit you in the long run. Everyone knows this.
 
theflyingpig said:
Don't listen to this liberal garbage. This fool has no idea what he's talking about. He's just another liberal sheep bleating the same noise as the rest of the fools. It's sad that the true liberals, the thinking men, like myself, have to deal with these fools in our ranks. I honestly have second thoughts about identifying myself as a liberal because of the vast amounts of idiots who *think* they are liberal when they are in fact, idiots.
To the OP, the military has many opportunities for you, and will benefit you in the long run. Everyone knows this.
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especially if you die or get shrapnel in your brain.
 
Check with the Target Employee Assistance Program and see if they provide face to face visits with licensed professional counselors/therapists. LPC/Ts can help you work through this type of issue which is very difficult to do alone.
 
theflyingpig said:
Don't listen to this liberal garbage. This fool has no idea what he's talking about. He's just another liberal sheep bleating the same noise as the rest of the fools. It's sad that the true liberals, the thinking men, like myself, have to deal with these fools in our ranks. I honestly have second thoughts about identifying myself as a liberal because of the vast amounts of idiots who *think* they are liberal when they are in fact, idiots.
To the OP, the military has many opportunities for you, and will benefit you in the long run. Everyone knows this.
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LOL

Wow, you got me there. Reading the pithy remarks from the wordsmith....I don't know whether to laugh at you or feel sorry for your sad state of mind.

*facepalm*
 
dr150 said:
LOL

Wow, you got me there. Reading the pithy remarks from the wordsmith....I don't know whether to laugh at you or feel sorry for your sad state of mind.

*facepalm*
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Well, I *know* I should pity you. You are a sheep, and you don't even know it. You'll spend the rest of your life amongst a herd of fools. How sad that must be. How sad indeed.
 
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