Ns1
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Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
Both sides seem to be fine now. They left a note back saying that while it may be more practical and convenient, it is theirs and something they wanted.
I hate the fact that everything makes sense for them to upgrade my car (My sister's car is 8 years younger than mine) AND they acknowledge it, but decide that they want it. That is where the jealousy comes in, and it is going to be a struggle, but I think if I can keep that in check and appreciate how lucky and blessed my family as a whole is, then I will have learned something from all of this.
Perhaps in a year or two they WILL give it to me (by that I mean swap and I pay the difference). Or by that time, maybe I'll have an internship and I can start looking at a nicer car. Just something to look forward to and work towards in the future. One of many things to work towards in the future (Though I would trade any material posession for the opportunity to get married and raise a family -- but seeing as I can't buy that I'll let that play out separately
-Kevin
I think you had the ATOT sympathy wagon going for you until this post.
UberNeuman
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DivideBYZero
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It's their money, they can buy what they like. If you want a 2003 Taco, buy one yourself. The days of free shit are over for selfish kids in your family. Man up.
If you were my kid I'd demand the money I loaned you for the I4 Tacoma, as it is obviously not good enough for you.
If you were my kid I'd demand the money I loaned you for the I4 Tacoma, as it is obviously not good enough for you.
shiner
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Originally posted by: Ns1
Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
Both sides seem to be fine now. They left a note back saying that while it may be more practical and convenient, it is theirs and something they wanted.
I hate the fact that everything makes sense for them to upgrade my car (My sister's car is 8 years younger than mine) AND they acknowledge it, but decide that they want it. That is where the jealousy comes in, and it is going to be a struggle, but I think if I can keep that in check and appreciate how lucky and blessed my family as a whole is, then I will have learned something from all of this.
Perhaps in a year or two they WILL give it to me (by that I mean swap and I pay the difference). Or by that time, maybe I'll have an internship and I can start looking at a nicer car. Just something to look forward to and work towards in the future. One of many things to work towards in the future (Though I would trade any material posession for the opportunity to get married and raise a family -- but seeing as I can't buy that I'll let that play out separately
-Kevin
I think you had the ATOT sympathy wagon going for you until this post.
Not from me...I was an asshole from the beginning.
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That last post was the jist of what they said in their note:
A. Perhaps in a few years or when you graduate you can get that or an equivalent (I would be paying)
Maybe everyone in their haste to flame missed this:
B. I hate how people are saying I am ungrateful. I say it a million times that I am so thankful and blessed to have what I have.
C. As for the "everything makes sense" comment. Well they said that in the note. They said "Though it may be more convenient for your and more practical you will just have to save and perhaps sometime later we will sell this one or you can start looking at one of your own. That is ALL I SAID in my post.
Perhaps if people would read more than "I had a fight with my parents over a car" they would understand that I was sad and upset about the immature way I acted.
-Kevin
A. Perhaps in a few years or when you graduate you can get that or an equivalent (I would be paying)
Maybe everyone in their haste to flame missed this:
Everyone here is so quick to judge and flame. Even my original post showed that I didn't want to feel this way.
B. I hate how people are saying I am ungrateful. I say it a million times that I am so thankful and blessed to have what I have.
C. As for the "everything makes sense" comment. Well they said that in the note. They said "Though it may be more convenient for your and more practical you will just have to save and perhaps sometime later we will sell this one or you can start looking at one of your own. That is ALL I SAID in my post.
Perhaps if people would read more than "I had a fight with my parents over a car" they would understand that I was sad and upset about the immature way I acted.
-Kevin
UberNeuman
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If you can't stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen - and quit looking for people to give you a slap on the back for having regrets....
moshquerade
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Originally posted by: shinerburke
Originally posted by: Ns1
Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
Both sides seem to be fine now. They left a note back saying that while it may be more practical and convenient, it is theirs and something they wanted.
I hate the fact that everything makes sense for them to upgrade my car (My sister's car is 8 years younger than mine) AND they acknowledge it, but decide that they want it. That is where the jealousy comes in, and it is going to be a struggle, but I think if I can keep that in check and appreciate how lucky and blessed my family as a whole is, then I will have learned something from all of this.
Perhaps in a year or two they WILL give it to me (by that I mean swap and I pay the difference). Or by that time, maybe I'll have an internship and I can start looking at a nicer car. Just something to look forward to and work towards in the future. One of many things to work towards in the future (Though I would trade any material posession for the opportunity to get married and raise a family -- but seeing as I can't buy that I'll let that play out separately
-Kevin
I think you had the ATOT sympathy wagon going for you until this post.
Not from me...I was an asshole from the beginning.
i sense that your kids aren't going to be spoiled brats. it's a good thing.
HardcoreRobot
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rh71
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Been there - I got so pissed for not getting a PC back in the 90s when they promised me. I didn't exactly do anything to earn it either... they just said they'd get it for me and backed out - I was such a little crybaby. I even punched a hole in the wall and almost had to walk to the hospital myself.
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Apparently all the people who have any intelligence have left ATOT for the day. The only people who seem to be answering can't seem to read an entire post without forming their own.
On the plus side, I just drove it. It's pretty sweet-- I'm pretty sure it is a cable clutch instead of a hydraulic though; wonder why they would do that. Def has a lot more power. But I'm not upset about it anymore. I wish I could have it (For that matter, if I am wishing, a Lamborghini would be real sweet also ) but my truck does what I need well enough. Just something to look forward to driving when I get home.
As for the quoted post-- wow congratulations you have picked the weakest argument in the world. Somehow you connected with "I almost got stuck in a ditch" (Age 16) with irresponsible and immature (Age 19 almost 20). So 3 almost 4 years have gone by but apparently that tells you all you need to know -_-. Hmm, lets see- I haven't gotten i a single accident nor have I gotten a single ticket in my life-- that sounds pretty responsible. Maybe before you bash and flame someone you will think about what you are about to post....
-Kevin
Edit: I think God is having fun with the whole thing too ... Earlier I was out getting parts for my truck- I pulled up to a light and 3 Tacomas exactly like this one pulled up around me. Couldn't help but smile and laugh
Edit 2: I was in no way looking for a pat on the back. I was immature and selfish and I knew it (And if you would read the darn post, I admit that and I say I wish I didn't feel that way). If you read my recent posts, you'll say, "Hey, he has learned something through all of this and feels better now!"
On the plus side, I just drove it
. It's pretty sweet-- I'm pretty sure it is a cable clutch instead of a hydraulic though; wonder why they would do that. Def has a lot more power. But I'm not upset about it anymore. I wish I could have it (For that matter, if I am wishing, a Lamborghini would be real sweet also ) but my truck does what I need well enough. Just something to look forward to driving when I get home.As for the quoted post-- wow congratulations you have picked the weakest argument in the world. Somehow you connected with "I almost got stuck in a ditch" (Age 16) with irresponsible and immature (Age 19 almost 20). So 3 almost 4 years have gone by but apparently that tells you all you need to know -_-. Hmm, lets see- I haven't gotten i a single accident nor have I gotten a single ticket in my life-- that sounds pretty responsible. Maybe before you bash and flame someone you will think about what you are about to post....
-Kevin
Edit: I think God is having fun with the whole thing too
... Earlier I was out getting parts for my truck- I pulled up to a light and 3 Tacomas exactly like this one pulled up around me. Couldn't help but smile and laugh Edit 2: I was in no way looking for a pat on the back. I was immature and selfish and I knew it (And if you would read the darn post, I admit that and I say I wish I didn't feel that way). If you read my recent posts, you'll say, "Hey, he has learned something through all of this and feels better now!"
I just find it hilarious that everyone says kids change your life and they are the most important thing to you blabla etc, but whenever a thread like this shows up, you quickly switch sites and make it look like you dont give a flying shit about your kids! Isnt ATOT amazing? And dont give me crap about not owing anything, Im talking about HELPING, is which more of a moral issue
This is why Ill think twice before having kids, I wanna make sure Ill be there for them always, specially considering they had no choosing in being born, so I might as well be there for them
Oh and my stance on this thread is neutral, both sides are partially wrong... OH AND, to finish, jump off the grow up bandwagon already... Are you telling me you never whine about random stuff in your life? I bet you do, about ridiculously unimportant things actually, its human nature, you cant change it... As long as we can have more, we want more, the sky is the limit... You can only be grateful for what you have to an extent, dont bullshit yourself, your brain will always normalize your situation and make you unhappy no matter how many things you have, its just the way it is, so whats wrong with complaining?
The ATOT holy membership never fails to impress
This is why Ill think twice before having kids, I wanna make sure Ill be there for them always, specially considering they had no choosing in being born, so I might as well be there for them
Oh and my stance on this thread is neutral, both sides are partially wrong... OH AND, to finish, jump off the grow up bandwagon already... Are you telling me you never whine about random stuff in your life? I bet you do, about ridiculously unimportant things actually, its human nature, you cant change it... As long as we can have more, we want more, the sky is the limit... You can only be grateful for what you have to an extent, dont bullshit yourself, your brain will always normalize your situation and make you unhappy no matter how many things you have, its just the way it is, so whats wrong with complaining?
The ATOT holy membership never fails to impress
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That is an awesome perspective on children! Sounds like you will make an excellent parent if you keep that perspective!
I agree with your whole stance after that as well EXCEPT, my parents really weren't wrong. Sure they didn't mean for the surprise to be like I stated-- it was my jealousy that twisted and warped that surprise into that. Therefore, the fault lies with me...
-Kevin
I do think they were wrong regardless of how you reacted... You dont take something your kid has wanted for some time and shove it in his face for no reason, they should have shown a little consideration
I mean, damn, there are so many vehicles and brands out there, and they had to pick the exact same one? I find that very weird... And I know I wouldnt ever do it
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Which was the reason I feel like a complete jerk....
Perhaps a basic lesson Christian beliefs. We believe that we should always strive to be perfect like Jesus while acknowledging that we will always fall far short of it. Despite us falling short, by God's grace, we are saved and forgiven. Being Christian does not say "We think we are better than everyone and we can do no wrong" - Anyone who claims to be a Christian and says that isn't living out their faith at all.
-Kevin
shiner
Lifer
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Kids do change your life. However that does not mean you have to provide them with a particular vehicle, gaming console, brand of shoes, etc, etc, etc... What you owe them is to make sure they have the necessities of life and grow up with a sense of responsibility and a work ethic that will help them in their adult lives.
The problem these days is parents seem to think their kids should have any and everything they want without question. As a result the kids end up having a sense of entitlement that will get them nowhere in life and will lead to a lifetime of disappointment.
My kids have all sorts of things. They get them by being respectful and by doing the small amount of chores they are asked to do. For the most part I believe the job of children is to be kids and enjoy themselves. That being said they do not get everything they want and if they start acting like brats, throw tantrums, are disrespectful they have something taken away from them as punishment.
Phreek is obviously no longer a child, at least not chronologically, but his actions were those of a child. His actions continue to be those of a child. He talks a good game about being blessed, grateful, whatever.....but his actions tell a different story. He didn't even have enough respect for his parents to apologize to them face to face.
Originally posted by: Ns1
Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
Both sides seem to be fine now. They left a note back saying that while it may be more practical and convenient, it is theirs and something they wanted.
I hate the fact that everything makes sense for them to upgrade my car (My sister's car is 8 years younger than mine) AND they acknowledge it, but decide that they want it. That is where the jealousy comes in, and it is going to be a struggle, but I think if I can keep that in check and appreciate how lucky and blessed my family as a whole is, then I will have learned something from all of this.
Perhaps in a year or two they WILL give it to me (by that I mean swap and I pay the difference). Or by that time, maybe I'll have an internship and I can start looking at a nicer car. Just something to look forward to and work towards in the future. One of many things to work towards in the future (Though I would trade any material posession for the opportunity to get married and raise a family -- but seeing as I can't buy that I'll let that play out separately
-Kevin
I think you had the ATOT sympathy wagon going for you until this post.
I concur with your analysis.
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Wow-- I kind of expect you, Shinerburke, the responsible one here apparently to at least read the posts after the first one.
I believe I said that I had to write a note because they were already asleep for work tomorrow, but that I would apologize when they got home (Which I did)
And my actions tell a different story? I made the thread based on one action that I felt remorse for. Since then I have been very apologetic-- Which action were you referring to where I was immature since the initial post?
-Kevin
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