I don't understand why this neighborhood does not want a Trader Joe's

[Rakehellion]

At 5x the price it better damn well be.

20x the selection. I'll go to fucking Wal-Mart if I want to buy store brand.

 

[Ns1]

20x the selection. I'll go to fucking Wal-Mart if I want to buy store brand.

TJ's and Whole Foods are not mutually exclusive. TJ products are hit/miss - they can be far superior to normal commercial brands, or far more terrible. They are rarely ever just par with their commercial counterparts.



<----shops at both depending on need

 

[Rakehellion]

TJ's and Whole Foods are not mutually exclusive.

So I'm going to make two trips after standing in line at Trader Joe's for half an hour? I thought the whole point was to get everything you need at one store.

 

[Ns1]

So I'm going to make two trips after standing in line at Trader Joe's for half an hour? I thought the whole point was to get everything you need at one store.

I thought the point was spending as little money as possible for quality products. Srsly though - your TJ's must really suck. Never had to wait in line for more than 5 minutes at my local TJ's, and my local TJ's is one of the tiny ones.

Also: I rarely ever get everything I need at one store, whether it be TJ or WF.

 

[alkemyst]

20x the selection. I'll go to fucking Wal-Mart if I want to buy store brand.

Apparently body odor doesn't offend you if Wal Mart is even in your equation.

I don't see you shopping at Whole Foods though.

You remind me of the Mountain Dew and Hot Pocket type so you don't lose valuable screen time.

 

[kranky]

I have to wonder if any of those who opposed TJ's happen to own stores in that area which sell items at high prices, exploiting those who can't travel to other, more affordable stores.

 

[Wreckem]

Trader Joe's is not cheap as Walmart but is definitely cheap. Quality and bang for buck ratio is extremely high. Combine that with awesome customer service and promise of no products from China and there's no store that can compare to Trader Joe's.

Like all grocery stores there are some items that are cheaper. Beef and produce are cheaper at my trader joes than at Walmart. Both are also far superior.

 

[Wreckem]

Trader Joe's is shit. They put on this phony "natural" hipster persona when their food is the same an anyone else's, cram people into tiny spaces so the line stretches around the store, and all of their shit is store brand so you can kiss any chance of selection goodbye. Whole Foods is much better.

Their lines are shorter than walmarts.

 

[ponyo]

I have to wonder if any of those who opposed TJ's happen to own stores in that area which sell items at high prices, exploiting those who can't travel to other, more affordable stores.

That was my first thought as well.

 

[Capt Caveman]

20x the selection. I'll go to fucking Wal-Mart if I want to buy store brand.

TJs and WFs carry some of the same products, like bacon. Same bacon that costs $10 at WF is $5 at TJ.

WF has longer lines at the cash register than TJ based on my experience.

 

[Anonemous]

lol, TJ's items are usually better and cheaper than Walmart. Too bad outside voices who don't even live in the neighborhood forced TJs away.

 

[Bateluer]

They can just build a Walmart there instead.

 

[SlitheryDee]

It sounds like resisting gentrification is more or less the same thing as keeping your neighborhood shitty. The only way I could imagine them not wanting their property value to go up is if they mostly don't own the property. Otherwise the whole concept doesn't seem to make much sense to me.

 

[destrekor]

TJs and WFs carry some of the same products, like bacon. Same bacon that costs $10 at WF is $5 at TJ.

WF has longer lines at the cash register than TJ based on my experience.

That cat is set in his ways. It is pointless to argue with him.

Frankly, I suspect a troll who is 20 or younger, but whatever.

Prefers Walmart, mirrors that aren't full-length, and well-done steaks.
Let that help you make your future decisions.

I haven't even stepped foot in a Trader Joe's and I can be pretty sure I'd prefer one over a Walmart.

 

[Capt Caveman]

That cat is set in his ways. It is pointless to argue with him.

Frankly, I suspect a troll who is 20 or younger, but whatever.

Prefers Walmart, mirrors that aren't full-length, and well-done steaks.
Let that help you make your future decisions.

I haven't even stepped foot in a Trader Joe's and I can be pretty sure I'd prefer one over a Walmart.

Oh, I know. Just wanted to call him out on his BS.

 

[CrystalBay]

Traders is cheaper than most modern retail stores . The thing is stay away from their steaks and much of their produce which is high priced or not the greatest quality. They have some great quality frozen stuff, wine/coffee and canned/jarred products...

 

[TurtleCrusher]

That part of Portland is fucking expensive now. When I was a kid I was almost jumped many times hoping around there. Now it's this "Art District" full of shitty cologned, fedora wearing fucks on fixed speed bicycles.

It's also New Seasons (local store founded by Trader Joe's former ownership group) who is actually blocking this. They've put up 3 stores in that area over the past few years and are building more.

 

[OverVolt]

I fail to see the logic that potentially increased property values would contribute to low-income (i.e. subsidized) housing becoming unaffordable for the minority residents living in that neighborhood. Might cost the government more, but if affluent people are spending more money there, I would think the extra tax base would make up for the money gap.

Um food prices would probably go up. What do taxes matter for the actual day to day lives of the people who live there?

Commercial bidding for land there would raise commercial rents which would raise prices for all goods sold there. Nice stores would attract home buyers who qualify for big loans to start dropping serious money in the neighborhood. You'd think it was a good thing except all its going to do is price the community currently living there out of the neighborhood.

 

[MagickMan]

If we give blacks access to jobs and quality food who knows what will happen^_^





I was waiting to see who would post the first racist post.


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The first was actually several posts before that one. :\

 

[ch33zw1z]

Seems like a poor business decision. However, I know a neighborhood that would welcome it, and avoid the hour drive in either direction to go to a location. bastards!!

 

[ch33zw1z]

That part of Portland is fucking expensive now. When I was a kid I was almost jumped many times hoping around there. Now it's this "Art District" full of shitty cologned, fedora wearing fucks on fixed speed bicycles.

It's also New Seasons (local store founded by Trader Joe's former ownership group) who is actually blocking this. They've put up 3 stores in that area over the past few years and are building more.

yea, fixie's suck...I do like a good single speed though.

 

[The Boston Dangler]

Trader Joe's is shit. They put on this phony "natural" hipster persona when their food is the same an anyone else's, cram people into tiny spaces so the line stretches around the store, and all of their shit is store brand so you can kiss any chance of selection goodbye. Whole Foods is much better.

ok, you have no idea what you're talking about.

fwiw, these 2 are the EXACT same product, from the same production line. guess which is at least 50% more expensive...

 

[Rakehellion]

I thought the point was spending as little money as possible for quality products.

I guess you're the type to drive 20 minutes to save 5 cents a gallon on gas.

 

[Rakehellion]

It sounds like resisting gentrification is more or less the same thing as keeping your neighborhood shitty. The only way I could imagine them not wanting their property value to go up is if they mostly don't own the property. Otherwise the whole concept doesn't seem to make much sense to me.

Lower-class families who don't own property. Imagine that?

 

[Rakehellion]

fwiw, these 2 are the EXACT same product, from the same production line. guess which is at least 50% more expensive...

Nice cherry picking. I can choose from a dozen other brands at all price points at Whole Foods.