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I don't believe a bird brought down the plane that crashed into the Hudson

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Originally posted by: CallMeJoe
The long soak in the Hudson may remove all the snarge and prevent a positive confirmation of bird strike.
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I think you mean, "the long soak in the Hudson allows the insiders to manufacture the evidence of a bird strike."
 
Originally posted by: her209
Originally posted by: CallMeJoe
The long soak in the Hudson may remove all the snarge and prevent a positive confirmation of bird strike.
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I think you mean, "the long soak in the Hudson allows the insiders to manufacture the evidence of a bird strike."
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10/10 troll thread. *high five*
 
Originally posted by: looker001
I believe that bird(s) hit the engine, what i don't believe that both engine got hit. I am thinking that this is likely pilot error in shutting down the wrong engine the first time. When alarms continue going off, pilot shut down the correct engine but the first engine failed to restart which result in pilot making an emergency landing.
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Wow. Just wow.
 
Originally posted by: her209
Originally posted by: CallMeJoe
The long soak in the Hudson may remove all the snarge and prevent a positive confirmation of bird strike.
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I think you mean, "the long soak in the Hudson allows the insiders to manufacture the evidence of a bird strike."
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You can't be serious?

What exactly is the conspiracy again?

The plane crashed... It doesn't matter if it was a bird or a giant ball of lint that got sucked into the engine. The end result is the same, and there will be nothing to falsify or make up in the black box records.

I really don't understand. Do you really think it was terrorists? Who benefits from a scenario other than birds taking the airplane down?
 
WTF People!!! We have NO idea what went wrong yet! The frigen engines are still in the water for gods sake and the crash just happened. We are fairly certain it was SOME kind of mechanical problem, beyond that we have NO idea what it might be. Yeah maybe it was birds, that is one possible explanation, maybe it's something else, like a loose screw, bad maintenance, wiring problems, metal fatigue, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. Let's WAIT until we have some SOLID facts.
 
Originally posted by: Eli
Originally posted by: her209
Originally posted by: CallMeJoe
The long soak in the Hudson may remove all the snarge and prevent a positive confirmation of bird strike.
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I think you mean, "the long soak in the Hudson allows the insiders to manufacture the evidence of a bird strike."
Click to expand...

You can't be serious?

What exactly is the conspiracy again?

The plane crashed... It doesn't matter if it was a bird or a giant ball of lint that got sucked into the engine. The end result is the same, and there will be nothing to falsify or make up in the black box records.

I really don't understand. Do you really think it was terrorists? Who benefits from a scenario other than birds taking the airplane down?
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Bwahahaha I guess some will blame Ol GW for playing with explosives one more time in NYC befor he hands over the reigns this week.....

Where is ROsie I am sure she can google up something to support another theory....

LOL
 
Originally posted by: mortong
Yeah, it must be conspiracy... Canada Geese don't fly in large flocks or anything. *sigh*
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I believe it was mentioned that it was unusual for them to still be around there. The radio also mentioned the geese were probably confused because the weather pattern is screwed.
 
Trust me, a flock of birds is more than enough to take out 2 jet engines....when I was in the Air Force, I saw a guy lean down just a little too close to the intake of an F-16 and his headset and radio - SHLOOP! BANG! I don't know how he didn't get sucked in but I'm glad he didn't. So yeah, a couple of big birds would be plenty....
 
<jackbauer>Birds equipped with classified remote steering mechanism developed by DoD that was stolen by terrorist</jackbauer>
 
Now, we must ask ourselves, who would benefit from trained geese flying into the jet engines? Goose hunters, that's who! But, that's the obvious conclusion the real culprits would want us to jump to. Clearly, we can not believe that it's goose hunters, although they're going to benefit from the solution being suggested by this incident: extended goose hunting season. But, who really is that fanatical to go to this extreme? HOA's, that's who. We already know that HOA's are an evil entity. And, what do HOA's have against geese? Geese shit all over their concrete, and around their carefully manicured ponds/lakes. HOA's are the real beneficiary here.

And, did you ever wonder where all those HOA fees go? Multiply the number of homes by the monthly fee, and subtract Manuel's pay for mowing the lawn and cleaning around the pool, and you'll see that there's a lot of money unaccounted for. Obviously they've been funneling the money to Al Queda camps where geese are trained to take out airliners.

Another thing - why didn't the government collect remains from the geese and do DNA tests? The government knew that there would be evidence that these were a foreign variety of geese, most likely Canadian Geese. The terrorist cells are obviously being set up in Canada!
 
Originally posted by: Locut0s
WTF People!!! We have NO idea what went wrong yet! The frigen engines are still in the water for gods sake and the crash just happened. We are fairly certain it was SOME kind of mechanical problem, beyond that we have NO idea what it might be. Yeah maybe it was birds, that is one possible explanation, maybe it's something else, like a loose screw, bad maintenance, wiring problems, metal fatigue, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. Let's WAIT until we have some SOLID facts.
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Yeah those dumbasses up front looking out the windows flying the plane have no clue what they are talking about when they reported bird strikes. :roll:
 
Originally posted by: Thorny
Originally posted by: her209
Bird strikes that causes simultaneous failures on both engines? I just don't buy it.
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You know it is quiet common for birds to fly in groups.
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i'm intrigued. tell me more about these bird 'groups'
 
Originally posted by: Locut0s
WTF People!!! We have NO idea what went wrong yet! The frigen engines are still in the water for gods sake and the crash just happened. We are fairly certain it was SOME kind of mechanical problem, beyond that we have NO idea what it might be. Yeah maybe it was birds, that is one possible explanation, maybe it's something else, like a loose screw, bad maintenance, wiring problems, metal fatigue, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. Let's WAIT until we have some SOLID facts.
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Your right! There's no evidence this WASN'T a terrorist attack. We must preserve everything we can and call in the foremost experts on these "birds." We must learn everything about them and their intentions before we move forward. THe government has already failed us by not stopping the Hudson river to preserve the crime scene, instead letting it get scrapped back into the Atlantic Ocean. We'll NEVER know the truth unless we keep digging.

We cannot let another 9/11 be perpetrated on our soil!
 
I weep for the future of this country. Her009, a plane hit a flock of geese, the engines died. If it had been anything else (terrorist attack or such) the plane wouldn't have been able to ditch like it did and remain in the shape it was. Use some logic.
 
Originally posted by: DrPizza
Now, we must ask ourselves, who would benefit from trained geese flying into the jet engines? Goose hunters, that's who! But, that's the obvious conclusion the real culprits would want us to jump to. Clearly, we can not believe that it's goose hunters, although they're going to benefit from the solution being suggested by this incident: extended goose hunting season. But, who really is that fanatical to go to this extreme? HOA's, that's who. We already know that HOA's are an evil entity. And, what do HOA's have against geese? Geese shit all over their concrete, and around their carefully manicured ponds/lakes. HOA's are the real beneficiary here.

And, did you ever wonder where all those HOA fees go? Multiply the number of homes by the monthly fee, and subtract Manuel's pay for mowing the lawn and cleaning around the pool, and you'll see that there's a lot of money unaccounted for. Obviously they've been funneling the money to Al Queda camps where geese are trained to take out airliners.

Another thing - why didn't the government collect remains from the geese and do DNA tests? The government knew that there would be evidence that these were a foreign variety of geese, most likely Canadian Geese. The terrorist cells are obviously being set up in Canada!
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If I follow you correctly, then this is a HUGE NRA and Ducks Unlimited supporting Al Queda HOA conspiracy!!11111one!1
 
Originally posted by: BeauJangles
Originally posted by: Locut0s
WTF People!!! We have NO idea what went wrong yet! The frigen engines are still in the water for gods sake and the crash just happened. We are fairly certain it was SOME kind of mechanical problem, beyond that we have NO idea what it might be. Yeah maybe it was birds, that is one possible explanation, maybe it's something else, like a loose screw, bad maintenance, wiring problems, metal fatigue, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. Let's WAIT until we have some SOLID facts.
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Your right! There's no evidence this WASN'T a terrorist attack. We must preserve everything we can and call in the foremost experts on these "birds." We must learn everything about them and their intentions before we move forward. THe government has already failed us by not stopping the Hudson river to preserve the crime scene, instead letting it get scrapped back into the Atlantic Ocean. We'll NEVER know the truth unless we keep digging.

We cannot let another 9/11 be perpetrated on our soil!
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As I mentioned above, they're Canadian geese.
 
Originally posted by: DrPizza
Originally posted by: BeauJangles
Originally posted by: Locut0s
WTF People!!! We have NO idea what went wrong yet! The frigen engines are still in the water for gods sake and the crash just happened. We are fairly certain it was SOME kind of mechanical problem, beyond that we have NO idea what it might be. Yeah maybe it was birds, that is one possible explanation, maybe it's something else, like a loose screw, bad maintenance, wiring problems, metal fatigue, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. Let's WAIT until we have some SOLID facts.
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Your right! There's no evidence this WASN'T a terrorist attack. We must preserve everything we can and call in the foremost experts on these "birds." We must learn everything about them and their intentions before we move forward. THe government has already failed us by not stopping the Hudson river to preserve the crime scene, instead letting it get scrapped back into the Atlantic Ocean. We'll NEVER know the truth unless we keep digging.

We cannot let another 9/11 be perpetrated on our soil!
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As I mentioned above, they're Canadian geese.
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It doesn't take much looking to uncover the TRUTH!! When will the government open their eyes?

Global network of sleeper cells:
Canada Geese have reached northern Europe naturally, as has been proved by ringing recoveries. The birds are of at least the subspecies parvipes, and possibly others. Canada Geese are also found naturally on the Kamchatka Peninsula in eastern Siberia, eastern China, and throughout Japan.
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Previous incidents, attacks on US military vehicles:
In 1995, a US Air Force E-3 Sentry aircraft at Elmendorf AFB, Alaska struck a flock of Canada Geese on takeoff and crashed, killing all 24 crew. The accident sparked efforts to avoid such events, including habitat modification, aversion tactics, herding and relocation, and culling of flocks.[9]
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The war against the Geese has been so secret that it wasn't even entrusted to the CIA. No, Bill Clinton called in the big boys, the AWS. This is definitely the Geese's motive. We've been "culling" (READ: GENOCIDE) their innocent populations and now they want revenge.
Since 1999, The United States Department of Agriculture Wildlife Services agency has been engaged in lethal culls of Canada Geese primarily in urban or densely populated areas. The agency responds to municipalities or private land owners, such as golf courses, who find the geese obtrusive or object to their waste.[8]
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We must learn their plan before they obtain WMDs or before they can strike out our vulnerable turbine engines! Dr. Pizza, I'd be honored to work with this on you. I feel our expertise can really lend a hand to the government's investigation.

My first observation is how Al-Queda like these Geese have been. They have a global terror network and their attack on US transports in 1995 is EERILY similar to the USS Cole attack. Also, does anyone actually remember that attack being reported?! Thank god wikipedia dug up the information, otherwise the government's disinfo campaign would have been successful.

Anyway, I feel that we, as citizens with a deep understanding of these Geese, should form our own investigation committee.

God bless patriots like us, who are willing to dig FOR THE TRUTH.

 
Being lover of nature, Canadians are adapt at training wildlife to be live ammo. We would have preferred to use polar bears, but they can't fly and that damn global warming is killing them off.
 
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