I DO NOT CONSENT! (my claim to defend with my life)

Rock Hydra

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So, now that socialism is gripping tighter and tighter on U.S. Citizens, repeating the 60-some year mistake that the UK claimed themselves that they imposed. I am now moving forward with my plans to disassociate myself with the UNITED STATES. No longer will I contract with a business so pervertedly corrupted as to force it's constituents into a nationalized SCAM. In fact, I haven't found a time when the government EVER acted in my best interest. Rarely has my account (read:pockets) been credited for the revenue collected by the debtors. They always offered me benefit privileges which ended up bleeding me out of money over the lifetime of the contract without significant returns. As a creditor to the UNITED STATES, this appalls me. Tyranny has ground its muddy boots into my couch for the last time. now it's time to "bust some legs" so to speak and kick this corporation to the curb, and it'll be me screaming "Shoulda never gave you *****'s money!" So, with my ranting out....I refuse to publicly insure myself, and they can jail me all they want, ha ha ha. I'll just work out and eat off everyone else's dime and have barely a care in the world. But know that I and a hell of a lot of other people aren't going without asserting thier rights given to all men in GOD's kingdom. The Constitution for the United States of America is now openly shat on (and the Magna Carta soon to be meaningless, I fear), so it's time to write a new one. Write YOUR constitution....and live by it. I am urging people who are tired of this police state/nanny state, who are tired of being subjects of the Queeen of England (now publicly traded), and are willing to protect those rights with their life, to research their rights, disassociate with their person, and live peacefully among other men. We are granted a great privilege to be born in a place where NOWHERE ELSE in the world would even dream to make a country like the one planned in the late 1700's. These people were FLEEING centralization and persecution. So I ask people now....where are you going to run to or are you going to stand your ground and take back sovereignty?



Cliffs:
I DO NOT Consent to healthcare
If you don't want it, neither should you (maybe do a little understanding of how things are)


Oh...and I wanna clear something up I keep hearing about Seatbelt codes, vehicle code, and income taxes. If you have a SSN, you are OBLIGATED to follow said rules, to the letter, or you are committing a FRAUD of CONTRACT. You grant corpus juris (maritime jurisdiction) to the governing body appointed by the party providing the benefit privileges.

All law = commerce
commerce = contract
without contract, there is no case....period.



Anyone else here researching these things? I would like to discuss peoples' ideas here about their dissension/secession?
 

cubeless

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commonwealth of catterwallers, republic of no hope, really landed on head hard...

not that that's a personal attack or anything like that...
 

Carmen813

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It's not socialism. Socialism has a very definite meaning and this doesn't fit it. You can tell it's not socialism because the socialists are very unhappy with the bill.
 

BudAshes

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Jul 20, 2003
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You make your life out to seem so bad. Funny dude. You have it easy so stop crying.
 

thraashman

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Apr 10, 2000
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If you don't like living in a country where a strong central government mandates and regulates things with the best interest of the people in mind, then you might want to consider checking out a place like Somalia. No central government and it's just working out great for them I hear. If that's your ideal, then by all means feel free to try for it. Just not here. The US is nowhere near socialism. The far right has been trying its hardest for the past couple decades to move the country to an elitist fascist government. And it seems that any move away from it they call socialism. I for one am happy that the US, which was prior to this the ONLY wealthy, industrialized nation not to have a universal healthcare system, has finally done something to stop our slide towards being a third world country.
 

Lemon law

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Nov 6, 2005
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No problem Rock Hydra, just leave the USA, renounce your citizenship, find some country more to your liking, and don't let the exit door hit you on your Butt.

But if you choose to stay, you have to play by the rules. You can't pick and choose what benefits you accept and what liabilities you reject.
 

Rock Hydra

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Dec 13, 2004
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So, far I would say there is definitely a place for the Federal Government. But, I would say they overstepped themselves since central banking was started and now pull the stings. Ha ha ....Rockafeller is probably jerking off with his tears of joy now.
 

Rock Hydra

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Dec 13, 2004
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No problem Rock Hydra, just leave the USA, renounce your citizenship, find some country more to your liking, and don't let the exit door hit you on your Butt.

But if you choose to stay, you have to play by the rules. You can't pick and choose what benefits you accept and what liabilities you reject.

I will leave the US, but not leaving the LAND (not SOCIETY) is my right.
 

dainthomas

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Dec 7, 2004
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It's unfortunate that the public option wasn't included. OP could have gotten his meds for free.
 
Dec 10, 2005
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Secession?

Telegraph from the Civil War
We want our issue back stop Please cable it back to us at your earliest convenience stop
 

nyker96

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I don't know what's up with people in this country, 3rd worlders has to contend with extreme poverty, famine, hunger, lack of health care, poor water, poor education systems. You are sounding so distraught over a health care bill. we are living way better lives than many many on this planet so consider yourself lucky with or without this bill.
 

Craig234

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May 1, 2006
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Posters like this remind me of the 'Paranoid style in American politics' of the 1950's era in the cold war when people went nuts being terrified of stealth communists taking over.

Many people are susceptible to this sort of fear, especially when it's stoked by expert propaganda.

Just listen to John Boehner's speech yesterday on healthcare - he was pulling all the names of big figures in history including Moses to claim all they stand for is destroyed in human civilization by the passage of this bill, basically - it's insane propaganda that feeds this sort of fear.

If our society was more rational, Boehner would be viewed as a crazy demagogue who rivals and really surpasses the USSR's propaganda.
 

bob4432

Lifer
Sep 6, 2003
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If you don't like living in a country where a strong central government mandates and regulates things with the best interest of the people in mind, then you might want to consider checking out a place like Somalia. No central government and it's just working out great for them I hear. If that's your ideal, then by all means feel free to try for it. Just not here. The US is nowhere near socialism. The far right has been trying its hardest for the past couple decades to move the country to an elitist fascist government. And it seems that any move away from it they call socialism. I for one am happy that the US, which was prior to this the ONLY wealthy, industrialized nation not to have a universal healthcare system, has finally done something to stop our slide towards being a third world country.

you really believe that this bullshit show the politicians have put on is for your betterment? man, you need to open you eyes and see the reality of the situation.
 
Jun 26, 2007
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So, now that socialism is gripping tighter and tighter on U.S. Citizens, repeating the 60-some year mistake that the UK claimed themselves that they imposed. I am now moving forward with my plans to disassociate myself with the UNITED STATES. No longer will I contract with a business so pervertedly corrupted as to force it's constituents into a nationalized SCAM. In fact, I haven't found a time when the government EVER acted in my best interest. Rarely has my account (read:pockets) been credited for the revenue collected by the debtors. They always offered me benefit privileges which ended up bleeding me out of money over the lifetime of the contract without significant returns. As a creditor to the UNITED STATES, this appalls me. Tyranny has ground its muddy boots into my couch for the last time. now it's time to "bust some legs" so to speak and kick this corporation to the curb, and it'll be me screaming "Shoulda never gave you *****'s money!" So, with my ranting out....I refuse to publicly insure myself, and they can jail me all they want, ha ha ha. I'll just work out and eat off everyone else's dime and have barely a care in the world. But know that I and a hell of a lot of other people aren't going without asserting thier rights given to all men in GOD's kingdom. The Constitution for the United States of America is now openly shat on (and the Magna Carta soon to be meaningless, I fear), so it's time to write a new one. Write YOUR constitution....and live by it. I am urging people who are tired of this police state/nanny state, who are tired of being subjects of the Queeen of England (now publicly traded), and are willing to protect those rights with their life, to research their rights, disassociate with their person, and live peacefully among other men. We are granted a great privilege to be born in a place where NOWHERE ELSE in the world would even dream to make a country like the one planned in the late 1700's. These people were FLEEING centralization and persecution. So I ask people now....where are you going to run to or are you going to stand your ground and take back sovereignty?



Cliffs:
I DO NOT Consent to healthcare
If you don't want it, neither should you (maybe do a little understanding of how things are)


Oh...and I wanna clear something up I keep hearing about Seatbelt codes, vehicle code, and income taxes. If you have a SSN, you are OBLIGATED to follow said rules, to the letter, or you are committing a FRAUD of CONTRACT. You grant corpus juris (maritime jurisdiction) to the governing body appointed by the party providing the benefit privileges.

All law = commerce
commerce = contract
without contract, there is no case....period.



Anyone else here researching these things? I would like to discuss peoples' ideas here about their dissension/secession?

I'm for immediate war with Argentina just to fuck with them.