I can't see the point behind getting married nor having kids.

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alm4rr

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Originally posted by: The Linuxator



No I didn't say that, if I reached one point where I found the perfect girl and saw that there is no way we can not get a long and be happy then why not we will settle down and get married.

LOLerific!!!
 

JLGatsby

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Originally posted by: BD2003

Anyways, it sounds to me that you have a lot of opinions, and not a lot of facts.

I only deal in facts and opinions based on solid, unshakable logic.
 

Sphexi

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If you can't see the point, just don't do it. Not a complicated thing, plenty of people go their whole lives like that. My aunt is almost 60, she's never seriously dated, just worked hard at her career and retired early, and enjoys her time on her farm now. My older brother is almost 30, he never seriously dated, and although it's a possibility, I don't personally see him married or having kids.

I happen to like kids, I like hanging out with them and being silly, I'm going to love being a dad, so I can't see myself old and dying without having a few kids or grandkids kicking around.
 

JulesMaximus

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Originally posted by: JLGatsby
Originally posted by: Jehovah
Originally posted by: JLGatsby

It is not outrageous, I merely explore into untrodden teritorries of truth others before me had never dared to go.

You are teh suck as posting.

True you are only posting your opinions, just like everyone else, but DAMN. You know if I'm at a public place and if there's an obnoxious kids there, well, I tell the parents that their kid is a jackass - not necessarily worded so, but I convey it to them.

I taught kids - did I have to do it? No. Were some of the kids brats? Undoubtedly. But do I, in the core of my being, think that I was wasting my time with them? Hardly. In fact, I think it was the greatest influence in me shaping myself into a better person as a whole.

If all kids are brats/ little bastards with no redeeming value, then how do they improve as adults? Everyone was a kid once in their life, you know. :roll:

Even most adults are pricks and moral/financial/social failures.

Here we go with more ridiculous "pulled them out of your ass" generalizations. Keep it up genius...the only thing you accomplish is making yourself look even more stupid.
 

BD2003

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Originally posted by: JLGatsby
Originally posted by: BD2003

Anyways, it sounds to me that you have a lot of opinions, and not a lot of facts.

I only deal in facts and opinions based on solid, unshakable logic.


Like this one?

I specifically said, in my original statement, that if you asked most parents about their kids, they would say they are happy to have them and would not have had it any other way. But they only say that because of the attachment involved in having kids, which is completely understandable.

But if you were to somehow get their completely unbias opinion, they probably would regret having kids.

Sounds to me a lot like the facts say one thing but youre taking creative license in bending them completely the other way.
 

shopbruin

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i don't think you've come across anyone in your life that is "worth your time" from your posts. you are still in a "me me me" and not a "us us us" mode.

being from a large family, i find it hard to imagine my life without a ton of kids around. or even at least one. there are people from large families that are just put off by the idea completely.

i think you're just young, and have been concentrating on yourself for all this time. when you happen to meet that right person (i'm getting that you have a set of impossibly high standards also) you might change your mind. and with time also, especially as your family grows, everyone moves away, and get on with their own lives, you start to wonder "hmm what do i have? all these nice things but no one to share it with."

but if you don't want to get married, don't. just don't go around knocking it for those who believe in it.
 

The Linuxator

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Originally posted by: Sphexi
If you can't see the point, just don't do it. Not a complicated thing, plenty of people go their whole lives like that. My aunt is almost 60, she's never seriously dated, just worked hard at her career and retired early, and enjoys her time on her farm now. My older brother is almost 30, he never seriously dated, and although it's a possibility, I don't personally see him married or having kids.

I happen to like kids, I like hanging out with them and being silly, I'm going to love being a dad, so I can't see myself old and dying without having a few kids or grandkids kicking around.

Ok I got your point :)
 

Tea Bag

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Originally posted by: alm4rr
Originally posted by: The Linuxator



No I didn't say that, if I reached one point where I found the perfect girl and saw that there is no way we can not get a long and be happy then why not we will settle down and get married.

LOLerific!!!


I guess it didn't take that long!
 

BD2003

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Originally posted by: The Linuxator



No I didn't say that, if I reached one point where I found the perfect girl and saw that there is no way we can not get a long and be happy then why not we will settle down and get married.


Remember, the absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence.
 

The Linuxator

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Originally posted by: freesia39
i don't think you've come across anyone in your life that is "worth your time" from your posts. you are still in a "me me me" and not a "us us us" mode.

being from a large family, i find it hard to imagine my life without a ton of kids around. or even at least one. there are people from large families that are just put off by the idea completely.

i think you're just young, and have been concentrating on yourself for all this time. when you happen to meet that right person (i'm getting that you have a set of impossibly high standards also) you might change your mind. and with time also, especially as your family grows, everyone moves away, and get on with their own lives, you start to wonder "hmm what do i have? all these nice things but no one to share it with."

but if you don't want to get married, don't. just don't go around knocking it for those who believe in it.


I was completley ok with what you were saying up untill "just don't go around knocking it for those who believe in it." are you hinting that I am doing that through my posts or are you just giving me an advice ?
 

mercanucaribe

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Originally posted by: The Linuxator
Originally posted by: sheik124
Originally posted by: The Linuxator
Originally posted by: Jehovah
You've never had sex, have you?


Irrelevant.

No no I think it is, why you dodging that question, hmm?


I don't believe in pre-marital sex, next.

You don't want to get married, and you don't believe in pre-marital sex... Diagnosis: You've got a case of the gay!
 

Dissipate

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Originally posted by: JLGatsby
Originally posted by: Dissipate

But deep down, most people would be happier without kids, especially because most kids are trouble makers.

I think this is flat out false. The vast majority of people would not be happier without kids. If that was the case and kids made people so unhappy, then they wouldn't have them.

But only a idiot would have kids.

I think this statement is just stupid. Every class of people in society has kids. Rich people, poor people, uneducated people, educated people, smart people, not so smart people... guess what they all have in common? They all have kids.

You need to take some reading classes.

I specifically said, in my original statement, that if you asked most parents about their kids, they would say they are happy to have them and would not have had it any other way. But they only say that because of the attachment involved in having kids, which is completely understandable.

But if you were to somehow get their completely unbias opinion, they probably would regret having kids.

Unbiased opinion?? I am having a hard time understanding the concept behind this 'unbiased' opinion. If you ask the vast majority of parents they will tell you that they do not regret having kids. What else is there to say about it? This 'unbiased' opinion thing is total B.S. That is their unbiased opinion. If there was so much discontent with having kids don't you think word would have gotten out and fewer people would be having kids?

Also, I also said that most pregnancies are UNPLANNED. So most people do not "choose" to have kids.

That probably depends on what country you are talking about. But here in the U.S. with all the cheap contraceptives on the market I would say that most pregnancies are planned.

As for statement #2 of yours, every class of people have kids, but fertility rates for poorer people are much higher, so what does that tell you? Smarter people have less kids.

There are other socio-economic reasons for that which have nothing to do with intelligence. Intelligent people enjoy kids just as much as less intelligent people.

 

JLGatsby

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Originally posted by: BD2003

Sounds to me a lot like the facts say one thing but youre taking creative license in bending them completely the other way.

Read the original statement, I did not bend anything!!! That is a 100% fact.
 

The Linuxator

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Originally posted by: mercanucaribe
Originally posted by: The Linuxator
Originally posted by: sheik124
Originally posted by: The Linuxator
Originally posted by: Jehovah
You've never had sex, have you?


Irrelevant.

No no I think it is, why you dodging that question, hmm?


I don't believe in pre-marital sex, next.

You don't want to get married, and you don't believe in pre-marital sex... Diagnosis: You've got a case of the gay!


If you haven't figured out what I have been saying troughout 6 pages of posts, then you need to have the case of : STFU!!
 

BD2003

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Originally posted by: JLGatsby
Originally posted by: BD2003

Sounds to me a lot like the facts say one thing but youre taking creative license in bending them completely the other way.

Read the original statement, I did not bend anything!!! That is a 100% fact.

I thought I read it well enough. But I stand corrected.

You did not bend anything. You disregarded. Just as bad.
 

shimsham

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Originally posted by: JLGatsby
Originally posted by: Dissipate
Originally posted by: JLGatsby
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

You are a clueless moron. That is perhaps the dumbest thing I've ever read in my life. Please ban yourself because you clearly don't know WTF you're talking about.

That's funny, I don't see anyone refuting my comment.

It is so outrageous, why would anyone waste their time refuting it?

It is not outrageous, I merely explore into untrodden teritorries of truth others before me had never dared to go.



bahahaha now youre just trolling. have to be.
right. youre the only person to ever think that or say it in this discussion.


are you really so full of yourself that you believe the shat you spout? get a clue.
 

kukyfrope

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OP, if you're not interested in marriage, sex or kids, consider going for that Master's Degree and going into research or something where you can be alone for a long time. You would probably be most happy that way.
 

The Linuxator

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Originally posted by: mercanucaribe
I'm going to be the first to demand pics of Linuxator.


No you are not the first to demand a pic, and no I wont post a pic of myself on a public forum, next.
 

The Linuxator

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Originally posted by: kukyfrope
OP, if you're not interested in marriage, sex or kids, consider going for that Master's Degree and going into research or something where you can be alone for a long time. You would probably be most happy that way.


To be honest that's what I had in mind.
 

JLGatsby

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Unbiased opinion?? I am having a hard time understanding the concept behind this 'unbiased' opinion. If you ask the vast majority of parents they will tell you that they do not regret having kids. What else is there to say about it? This 'unbiased' opinion thing is total B.S. That is their unbiased opinion. If there was so much discontent with having kids don't you think word would have gotten out and fewer people would be having kids?

Their "off the top of their head" reply is NOT NOT NOT their unbiased opinion. Their judgement is clouded by their affection for their kids. Life is always easier without kids. If you dug deep into their souls and asked for an opinion based on only logic, not feelings, they would say their kids made their life more difficult.

That probably depends on what country you are talking about. But here in the U.S. with all the cheap contraceptives on the market I would say that most pregnancies are planned.

About 35% of pregnancies in the US are out of wedlock, we need 15% more to get to 50% to deem the majority of pregnancies as not planned. I think it's safe to say that we can assume that many are married couples who simply did not care and had kids without any long term prior planning.

I think John Lennon himself said that kids today (well the 1970s, it's even worst today) aren't planned, their created out of "bottle of wiskey on a Saturday night." This was in an interview, not a song.

There are other socio-economic reasons for that which have nothing to do with intelligence. Intelligent people enjoy kids just as much as less intelligent people.

Intelligence! Because people with the financial means to enjoy their life do not want kids to ruin the party. They do not want to spend their life babysitting. Who can blame them?

And most poor people who have kids are probably simply guilty of nihilism. They simply do not care or are mute to the consequences of their actions.
 

Mo0o

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So what you're saying is, unless you found a girl that you're absolutely sure will be perfeect (which from your OP sounds like you dont believe), you're never going to be married ergo you're never going to have sex. Is this correct?
 

JLGatsby

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Originally posted by: shimsham
bahahaha now youre just trolling. have to be.
right. youre the only person to ever think that or say it in this discussion.

are you really so full of yourself that you believe the shat you spout? get a clue.

Yes I am.

And I am not, nor have I ever "trolled." Although I used to troll Yahoo News Message boards, which is always fun.