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mnarciso

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Originally posted by: Chainzsaw
I think the real troll here is mnarciso for starting something he knew would get out of hand...


BTW, thats a good processor either way...

I had no idea this would get out of hand I'm new here =).
 

Lithan

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Actually Belazeru, depending on where the low FPS is 4-6 fps could be quite noticable. But with a good enough video card in todays games, you are right that it shouldn't ever come up.
 

Chainzsaw

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Originally posted by: mnarciso
Originally posted by: Chainzsaw
I think the real troll here is mnarciso for starting something he knew would get out of hand...


BTW, thats a good processor either way...

I had no idea this would get out of hand I'm new here =).

That's spoken like a true un-naive person in a naive fashion!

I smell...poser! :p

jj
 

LtPage1

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its about money. this war is fought in the sub $200 range. for that amount of money, AMD edges out intel, and as such inspires some brand loyalty. plus, its always fun to root for the underdog.
 

mnarciso

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To me it sounds like the other way around now... AMD is no longer the underdog comparing AMD's current line of processors and Intel's so lets all root for Intel now =)!
 

Keysplayr

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Originally posted by: IntelUser2000
Obviously we now know 2 things.

1. YOu are like 9 years old

2. YOu are not old enough to remember the beginnings of Intel (ie P1 P2 P3)

Also stability is not based on CPU, if any other part of your hardware is a POS thenyour system is, Processors have a suprisingly low impact on stability.


Oh yes I am old enough to remember the beginnings of Intel. Have you seen anybody that is 9 year old that comes here and argues about Intel vs. AMD? I haven't.

Pentium 1 got quickly surpassed by K6 which was cheaper STRIKE ONE!!!
Pentium 2 also got surpassed by K6-2's which were also cheaperSTRIKE TWO!!!
Pentium 3 ALSO got surpassed by K6-3's which were cheaper and got owned when Athlons came out. STRIKE THREE!! Your out!!!!!

Of course k6's thru K6-3's were cheaper, they sucked. Until K7 came around AMD was mediocre along the lines of what transmeta is today.

Okay, so they were RELATIVELY good CPU's. However that does not solve one thing. The past doesn't matter now. AMD and Athlon64's are so good now that you can forget all history of Intel's successes.
Is there any more I need to say?

 

Keysplayr

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Originally posted by: Lithan
Temperature is directly scalable gururu. Thus your arguement is baseless. When the facts fail you, I see you try to play to assumption (flawed at that). Not a good trait for a scientist.

And Gururu, "LOL" is in fact a word.

You will let us know when your e-penis has been satisfied won't you?

 

Keysplayr

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Originally posted by: Lithan
Perhaps someone needs to get a dictionary and look up the definition of acronym, paying special attention to the second word in the definition.


Definately an EGO problem here.
 

imported_michaelpatrick33

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How come we all can't be happy with whatever cpu's we have and be happy for each other with whatever they upgrade with while offering our emotionless advice and be happy with what they choose?

I personally like AMD chips but I am very happy with/for people who are happy with their Intel products.
If more time was spent congradulating others on their happiness (and I would love a 3.4 Intel based machine as I am running a XP 2400 KM266 machine currently) and less on pissing on their silicon to show how big our tranistor is we would probably get more done.

Enjoy your extremely fast computer and think of me when you are multi-tasking and running the latest games.

Peace and strained silicon love to all.
 

Lithan

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Yeah people who are right taking offense at being told they are wrong is egotism. Damn you galileo! You cocky bastard!
 

imported_michaelpatrick33

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Originally posted by: Lithan
Yeah people who are right taking offense at being told they are wrong is egotism. Damn you galileo! You cocky bastard!


Why, though would you take offense at someone else's mistake and let your emotional control be taken away from you. This would in of itself could imply an emotional attachment to their acquiesing to your viewpoint for some kind of validation. You can never answer illogic or emotionism with the like kind and taking offense merely pulls you into their world and answering on their terms. If you tell a person who is beating their head against the wall (in your opinion this is bad) to stop and show them (in your opinion a better way) and they refuse to stop then beating your head against the ground to show them they are wrong is pointless.

If an anomynous poster tells me I am an ignorant fool for enjoying AMD chips I can either call him a fool and play round robbin of the illogic and emotional tantrum or laugh and tell him maybe he/she is right and move on.


I said before enjoy the super fast computer you now have and think of me on my (XP2400 KM266) machine when you are multi-tasking and playing the latest games.
 

mnarciso

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Originally posted by: michaelpatrick33
Originally posted by: Lithan
Yeah people who are right taking offense at being told they are wrong is egotism. Damn you galileo! You cocky bastard!


Why, though would you take offense at someone else's mistake and let your emotional control be taken away from you. This would in of itself could imply an emotional attachment to their acquiesing to your viewpoint for some kind of validation. You can never answer illogic or emotionism with the like kind and taking offense merely pulls you into their world and answering on their terms. If you tell a person who is beating their head against the wall (in your opinion this is bad) to stop and show them (in your opinion a better way) and they refuse to stop then beating your head against the ground to show them they are wrong is pointless.

If an anomynous poster tells me I am an ignorant fool for enjoying AMD chips I can either call him a fool and play round robbin of the illogic and emotional tantrum or laugh and tell him maybe he/she is right and move on.


I said before enjoy the super fast computer you now have and think of me on my (XP2400 KM266) machine when you are multi-tasking and playing the latest games.

Because people like to compete, they like to argue, they like the drama. Its just a fact that we are like that. Otherwise if we could all just laugh and move on then we would have less wars/arguements about anything.

I believe people come here to either share information, just chat and have fun, or they got something to say and they want to prove they are right. Here I just come for people's opninions and I think thats the greatest resource because you get to hear it from different perspectives not just one. It would be nice if everyone just got along but I think its just the fact that people believe what they say is so right it gets to them if someone tells them they are wrong.

The only answers I really dislike are fanboy answers. People who don't consider the otherside because they believe that so and so company is always best that the other company doesn't even have a chance of maybe turning the tables. Its expected to get fanboy answers but I know there are a lot of people here who know what they are doing and think things over before they buy.
 

gururu

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Originally posted by: Lithan
Yeah people who are right taking offense at being told they are wrong is egotism. Damn you galileo! You cocky bastard!

LOL is not a word. It is an abbreviation and arguably not an acronym. Try taking English again.

you can start here
 

mnarciso

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Ok thats enough here I got an answer for both of you...

Abbreviation
1. The act or product of shortening.
2. A shortened form of a word or phrase used chiefly in writing to represent the complete form, such as Mass. for Massachusetts or USMC for United States Marine Corps.

Acronym
A word formed from the initial letters of a name, such as WAC for Women's Army Corps, or by combining initial letters or parts of a series of words, such as radar for radio detecting and ranging.

Its the same thing... although abbreviation is used more for shortening words as stated by www.dictionary.com

but what the hell do I know i didn't do too well in English "LOL"
 

Lithan

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Originally posted by: michaelpatrick33
Originally posted by: Lithan
Yeah people who are right taking offense at being told they are wrong is egotism. Damn you galileo! You cocky bastard!


Why, though would you take offense at someone else's mistake and let your emotional control be taken away from you. This would in of itself could imply an emotional attachment to their acquiesing to your viewpoint for some kind of validation. You can never answer illogic or emotionism with the like kind and taking offense merely pulls you into their world and answering on their terms. If you tell a person who is beating their head against the wall (in your opinion this is bad) to stop and show them (in your opinion a better way) and they refuse to stop then beating your head against the ground to show them they are wrong is pointless.

If an anomynous poster tells me I am an ignorant fool for enjoying AMD chips I can either call him a fool and play round robbin of the illogic and emotional tantrum or laugh and tell him maybe he/she is right and move on.


I said before enjoy the super fast computer you now have and think of me on my (XP2400 KM266) machine when you are multi-tasking and playing the latest games.




Taking offense is used more generically than simply meaning being offended. It also has a common usage as meaning to disagree with or dispute.
 

Lithan

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Yes Mnarciso. LOL is an abbreviation, but being an abbreviation does not necessarily mandate it being a word, being an acronym (which it is as well) does. If Gururu want's to bicker over semantics he should at least be sure he is correct before he starts.
 

Keysplayr

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Originally posted by: Lithan
Yeah people who are right taking offense at being told they are wrong is egotism. Damn you galileo! You cocky bastard!

One of the few people that think you are right is you. I know your not getting this, but YCGRWIOA.

Look it up. Its a word. LOL. No, it means You Cant Go Wrong With Intel Or AMD. Period. Your nitpicking this to death already. There isn't anything your AMD can do that the Intel cannot. And we are not talking about 64 bit crap either. That only matters if your a Linux user at this point.. Temperature does not matter if the CPU's run correctly. 60C or 16C means nothing as long as it works. If you want higher scores in benchmarks, go with AMD. If you want 85 fps instead of 75, go with AMD. But seriously, get over yourself and stop pimping AMD. People can only have so many "facts" thrown at them before they suspect other agenda's are at work.

 

gururu

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Originally posted by: Lithan
Originally posted by: gururu
Originally posted by: Lithan
Yeah people who are right taking offense at being told they are wrong is egotism. Damn you galileo! You cocky bastard!

LOL is not a word. It is an abbreviation and arguably not an acronym. Try taking English again.


Wow. Just... wow.

http://www.acronymfinder.com/a...=exact&Acronym=LOL

stop using second-rate sources to support your arguments. for a real source,
start here

 

Keysplayr

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Originally posted by: Lithan
Yes Mnarciso. LOL is an abbreviation, but being an abbreviation does not necessarily mandate it being a word, being an acronym (which it is as well) does. If Gururu want's to bicker over semantics he should at least be sure he is correct before he starts.

All that is ever important to you. You must be a blast at parties. Well, at least if you ever got an invite.

 

mnarciso

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OMG, this thread is alive again... its ALIVE ITS ALIVE!

Just when I thought it was dead haha I guess its got unfinished business.
 

mnarciso

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Originally posted by: Lithan
Yes Mnarciso. LOL is an abbreviation, but being an abbreviation does not necessarily mandate it being a word, being an acronym (which it is as well) does. If Gururu want's to bicker over semantics he should at least be sure he is correct before he starts.

I don't know who to believe gururu or you, it doesn't really matter to me, I try not to use LOL but sometimes it gets the best of me. LOL reminds me of my AOL Chatting days when we just had dial-up.

I think you guys should just both give each other pats on the back for taking something so small and making it big after all I just think of LOL as a chat term since I'd never really use it in real life talking. If anyone ever comes up to you and says LOL just smack em.
 

Lithan

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Keysplayer,

1. I am right. I've cited the definition of LOL and of Acronym, both provide indisputable evidence that I am right. Nyah Nyah Nyah Nyah.
2. I know dozens of people using 64bit windows right now. But I don't consider it a very valid arguement, since not many people will buy A64 specifically to change to 64bit windows.
3. Temperature is indeed important. You can spend less on aftermarket cooling for a cooler running processor, A less power hungry processor will result in a slightly less costly power bill, Processor heat can make a considerable difference in your cooling bill in summer months or in warm climates. Cooler running processors are more likely to operate properly without upgraded cooling in warmer climates. There are literally dozens of advantages of a more efficient processor. You simply refuse to see them.
4. I don't tell people to buy amd or intel because of benchmarks. For years I have told people that real world performance is all that matters. It's not a popular opinion to have, but it is part of the reason I am using a 2.26b with a gig of generic memory right now. I could score better benchmarks with my winchester+512megs BH5 easily, but I want a gig of ram and I haven't gotten around to tweaking the winchester rig to operate to my desires with a gig of BH5.
 

gururu

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Originally posted by: Lithan
Keysplayer,

1. I am right. I've cited the definition of LOL and of Acronym, both provide indisputable evidence that I am right.

LOL has multiple definitions since its use on the net began, and its not always 'Laugh-out-loud'. Sometimes it can be used for 'Lots-of-love' and other phrases as well.
I just find it humorous that you've made it your personal goal to try to prove something that cannot be proven. Until Oxford or Webster provide a definition for LOL in their dictionaries, as they do with true acronyms, its not a word 'yet' in my book.
BTW, do you walk around and say "L.O.L." when you need to laugh out loud? Or do you just say "lol"? LOL.


 

Keysplayr

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Originally posted by: Lithan
Keysplayer,

1. I am right. I've cited the definition of LOL and of Acronym, both provide indisputable evidence that I am right. Nyah Nyah Nyah Nyah.
2. I know dozens of people using 64bit windows right now. But I don't consider it a very valid arguement, since not many people will buy A64 specifically to change to 64bit windows.
3. Temperature is indeed important. You can spend less on aftermarket cooling for a cooler running processor, A less power hungry processor will result in a slightly less costly power bill, Processor heat can make a considerable difference in your cooling bill in summer months or in warm climates. Cooler running processors are more likely to operate properly without upgraded cooling in warmer climates. There are literally dozens of advantages of a more efficient processor. You simply refuse to see them.
4. I don't tell people to buy amd or intel because of benchmarks. For years I have told people that real world performance is all that matters. It's not a popular opinion to have, but it is part of the reason I am using a 2.26b with a gig of generic memory right now. I could score better benchmarks with my winchester+512megs BH5 easily, but I want a gig of ram and I haven't gotten around to tweaking the winchester rig to operate to my desires with a gig of BH5.

1. Everything is disputable.
2. Sure you do.
3. Power Bill? You simply refuse to see that your grasping and it's not enough to make people care (except you).
4. Not popular, not unique either. You place far to much energy into this that can be better spent somewhere else, I am sure of this.

Oh and last time I checked, acronyms are NOT words. It is the reason they are called acronyms.
Very logical.