I am now part of the elite V8 club.

[Vic]

Originally posted by: Mr N8

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: judasmachine
I just have poor measly 3.8L V6

The Buick Fireball V6 is one of the best engines ever mass-produced.

I belong to the small-turbocharged-4-cylinders-that-make-as-much-power-as-a-big-V8 club. It's all about having your cake and eating it too.

What would that be? WRX?

Heh. Of course.

 

[crystal]

Re-order your user name. BrainDamaged.

 

[V00DOO]

I didn't know I was part of an elite group. I am honor!

 

[Mr.IncrediblyBored]

Aren't more V8's sold in U.S. than any other engine configuration? That doesn't make you elite. It makes you a follower.

Trying to find a link. I remember reading it some time ago.

 

[TheSlamma]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: judasmachine
I just have poor measly 3.8L V6

The Buick Fireball V6 is one of the best engines ever mass-produced.

I belong to the small-turbocharged-4-cylinders-that-make-as-much-power-as-a-big-V8 club. It's all about having your cake and eating it too.

As a N/A V8.... for some reason people don't know it but you can put turbos and blowers on V8's too.

 

[LordMorpheus]

I've got the Ford 4.6 V8 in my '97 Lincoln - that makes me a member of the elite V8 club! Woot! 210 horsepower! That's 102 Horsepower per ton! Nothing in this world can stop me!

 

[DainBramaged]

Originally posted by: LordMorpheus
I've got the Ford 4.6 V8 in my '97 Lincoln - that makes me a member of the elite V8 club! Woot! 210 horsepower! That's 102 Horsepower per ton! Nothing in this world can stop me!

I remember your thread about your car. Nice ride.

 

[Demo24]

flat 4 club here

 

[RGUN]

1 litre inline 4 here, made 149.92hp on the dyno.... who needs a V8 to have fun... especially when there arent many V8's that can match my 2.5lb/HP rating.

 

[xanis]

Originally posted by: raildogg
I am part of the Japanese V-6 club. Are we elite too?

The "Japanese V-6 Club" is like a community college: everyone can get in

 

[Ornery]

Wow, I can't imagine driving anything but! In all my 30+ years of driving, I've never owned anything without a V8.

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: Ronstang

Originally posted by: raildogg

Originally posted by: Ronstang

Originally posted by: raildogg
I am part of the Japanese V-6 club. Are we elite too?

No.

Aww :brokenheart:

Well, possibly....it would depend upon which V6 you are talking about. Exceptional engines transcend their number of cylinders....like the Taurus SHO 3.0L 24 valve V6.

What about a DOHC 3.0L 24 valve Twin Turbo V6?

389 ft lbs of torque at the rear wheels FTW.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: TheSlamma

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: judasmachine
I just have poor measly 3.8L V6

The Buick Fireball V6 is one of the best engines ever mass-produced.

I belong to the small-turbocharged-4-cylinders-that-make-as-much-power-as-a-big-V8 club. It's all about having your cake and eating it too.

As a N/A V8.... for some reason people don't know it but you can put turbos and blowers on V8's too.

I'm well aware that you can put forced induction on V8's. Duh. That doesn't solve their weight problem though.

 

[iversonyin]

I rather have a BMW I6. Sorry mate.

 

[IMaN00BieGF]

Ugh.. I had a dream I bought a hybrid car last night.. Staring to think about it.

 

[Homerboy]

I got my V8. Gotta get her out of storage in fact. Shoulda had her out a few weeks ago, but too much stuff going on. Now that gas is so high, I'll have to track mpg on her just to make me feel bad

 

[Ornery]

Originally posted by: Vic

I'm well aware that you can put forced induction on V8's. Duh. That doesn't solve their weight problem though.

Tiny engines are only suitable for tiny cars, due to the "weight problem" imposed by comfortable sized cars. Effortless, low RPM torque is a must, if you don't want to have an engine screaming every time you want to pull into traffic.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: Ornery

Originally posted by: Vic
I'm well aware that you can put forced induction on V8's. Duh. That doesn't solve their weight problem though.

Tiny engines are only suitable for tiny cars, due to the "weight problem" imposed by comfortable sized cars. Effortless, low RPM torque is a must, if you don't want to have an engine screaming every time you want to pull into traffic.

This is ridiculous. All gasoline engines "scream" and provide horrible low RPM torque compared to other engine designs. Even if your big, bad V8 rumbles lazily down the freeway at 80mph and only 2k rpm, it's still firing more than 16 times every second.
The only reason gasoline engines are the engine of choice in automobiles is because they provide a relatively small package with an excellent power-to-weight ratio suitable for traveling long distances without refueling. Your big heavy gas-guzzling V8 with its poor power-to-displacement and poor power-to-weight ratios ruins all that. Not to mention that that this little thing called inertia means that it can't accelerate, brake, or handle for sh!t, and that big heavy stiff weight is the now-proven false safety mantra of 40 years ago.
Quit living in the past.

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: Vic
Your big heavy gas-guzzling V8 with its poor power-to-displacement and poor power-to-weight ratios ruins all that. Not to mention that that this little thing called inertia means that it can't accelerate, brake, or handle for sh!t, and that big heavy stiff weight is the now-proven false safety mantra of 40 years ago.
Quit living in the past.

Please stop posting.

If you're not knowledgeable enough to avoid the "power per liter" fallcy, then you shouldn't be posting in a car thread.

ALL larger displacement engines are at a disadvantage compared to smaller displacement engines. This has nothing to do with efficiency/sophistication and everything to do with basic physics.

Before you reply trying to refute the obvious, please read up on it.

Also, modern V8s like the LS-series are efficient and light. The 505 hp 7 liter LS7 weighs less than a 2.4 liter 240Z engine, the 2.6 liter Skyline engine, and the 3 liter Supra engine, has a lower center of gravity, and is more compact. AND it gets better gas mileage.

 

[imported_Scourge]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: Ornery

Originally posted by: Vic
I'm well aware that you can put forced induction on V8's. Duh. That doesn't solve their weight problem though.

Tiny engines are only suitable for tiny cars, due to the "weight problem" imposed by comfortable sized cars. Effortless, low RPM torque is a must, if you don't want to have an engine screaming every time you want to pull into traffic.

This is ridiculous. All gasoline engines "scream" and provide horrible low RPM torque compared to other engine designs. Even if your big, bad V8 rumbles lazily down the freeway at 80mph and only 2k rpm, it's still firing more than 16 times every second.
The only reason gasoline engines are the engine of choice in automobiles is because they provide a relatively small package with an excellent power-to-weight ratio suitable for traveling long distances without refueling. Your big heavy gas-guzzling V8 with its poor power-to-displacement and poor power-to-weight ratios ruins all that. Not to mention that that this little thing called inertia means that it can't accelerate, brake, or handle for sh!t, and that big heavy stiff weight is the now-proven false safety mantra of 40 years ago.
Quit living in the past.

So you're saying that a town car with a little I-4 would brake and handle like say, a Corvette? Wait. What? You mean it's the power to weight ratio of the entire car that matters, not just the engine? Holy ******.

3000 pound car. 300 pounds are the engine, a 300HP V6. 1hp per pound on the engine, 10 pounds per HP for the entire car.

3200 pound car. 500 pounds are the engine, a 400hp V8. .75hp per pound on the engine, yet there are only 8lbs per HP for the car!

Those extra 200 pounds for the V8, even though the engine isn't as efficient as the V6, mean that the car has a better power to weight ratio and thus will accelerate quite a bit better. Oh, and you could add some more weight to that scenario to add some beefy breaks and such, while maintaining a better power to weight ratio for quite a while.

Yeah, they both have their place, but for a performance car built for straight line acceleration especially, a V8 is much better than a smaller engine. They can also do pretty well in more of a sports car application- take a look at the Corvette.

We're talking performance cars here, big engines don't have much of a place in a basic commute car. Well...

 

[Ornery]

If comfort didn't matter, Civics wouldn't have grown to twice their original size. We'd all be driving flippin' Fiats today!

Everybody has to get from 0-45MPH several times per commute, and a tiny hamster wheel engine is simply too busy for any kind of comfort. Forced induction or not, it's not the right tool for the job in a decent sized car, and I'm not seeing America's best selling vehicles shrinking.

1. :beer: Wow, that was a milestone post!

 

[mb]

I love my V8.

 

[EightySix Four]

I'm a meber with a wonderful 14 city and 18 highway... 5.4l V8

 

[DurocShark]

Originally posted by: DEMO24
flat 4 club here

Aircooled division.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: Vic
Your big heavy gas-guzzling V8 with its poor power-to-displacement and poor power-to-weight ratios ruins all that. Not to mention that that this little thing called inertia means that it can't accelerate, brake, or handle for sh!t, and that big heavy stiff weight is the now-proven false safety mantra of 40 years ago.
Quit living in the past.

Please stop posting.

If you're not knowledgeable enough to avoid the "power per liter" fallcy, then you shouldn't be posting in a car thread.

ALL larger displacement engines are at a disadvantage compared to smaller displacement engines. This has nothing to do with efficiency/sophistication and everything to do with basic physics.

Before you reply trying to refute the obvious, please read up on it.

Also, modern V8s like the LS-series are efficient and light. The 505 hp 7 liter LS7 weighs less than a 2.4 liter 240Z engine, the 2.6 liter Skyline engine, and the 3 liter Supra engine, has a lower center of gravity, and is more compact. AND it gets better gas mileage.

You agree with me but tell me to "stop posting"?? I must be on ATOT :roll:
I didn't bring up "sophistication."

As to your last paragraph: (1) you're comparing old technology with new technology, and (2) that LS7 only gets good gas mileage while you're cruising or otherwise off the throttle.