I AM LEGEND

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: zinfamous

Originally posted by: andylawcc
i like Children of Men far better as a apopcalyptic movie.

x 1,000,000

uke:

CoM is a poor excuse as an Apocalyptic Movie. No one has been born, whoopty frickin doo, I think chaos would ensue, right after everyone quit shrugging and going off to buy the latest gadget.

that's not what makes it good sci fi. the point is that it is the near and very possible future. economic shifts affected by massive human migration due to global climate change and dwindling resources. This is the background. on top of this, we are dealing with the concept that nature has selected against us, so how do we survive?

if you want cookie-cutter "apocalyptic" BS, then rent every other Mad Max rip-off. for something that presents an extremely plausible version of the type of apocalypse that we may actually face, Children of Men nails it on the head.

easily the best Sci Fi film since 2001. this is undebatable

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: zinfamous

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: zinfamous

Originally posted by: andylawcc
i like Children of Men far better as a apopcalyptic movie.

x 1,000,000

uke:

CoM is a poor excuse as an Apocalyptic Movie. No one has been born, whoopty frickin doo, I think chaos would ensue, right after everyone quit shrugging and going off to buy the latest gadget.

that's not what makes it good sci fi. the point is that it is the near and very possible future. economic shifts affected by massive human migration due to global climate change and dwindling resources. This is the background. on top of this, we are dealing with the concept that nature has selected against us, so how do we survive?

if you want cookie-cutter "apocalyptic" BS, then rent every other Mad Max rip-off. for something that presents an extremely plausible version of the type of apocalypse that we may actually face, Children of Men nails it on the head.

easily the best Sci Fi film since 2001. this is undebatable

Well, that's an interesting Idea and I suppose that gives the underlying story CoM some traction, but the movie still sucked. I don't care if a movie is based on some possible future, I care that the movie convincingly creates that future(which it doesn't), that it's entertaining(snooze fest for the most part), and that at the end I don't feel ripped off spending $$ on(which I did).

If it was one of the best of 2001, 2001 was not a very good year.

 

[TheChort]

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: zinfamous

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: zinfamous

Originally posted by: andylawcc
i like Children of Men far better as a apopcalyptic movie.

x 1,000,000

uke:

CoM is a poor excuse as an Apocalyptic Movie. No one has been born, whoopty frickin doo, I think chaos would ensue, right after everyone quit shrugging and going off to buy the latest gadget.

that's not what makes it good sci fi. the point is that it is the near and very possible future. economic shifts affected by massive human migration due to global climate change and dwindling resources. This is the background. on top of this, we are dealing with the concept that nature has selected against us, so how do we survive?

if you want cookie-cutter "apocalyptic" BS, then rent every other Mad Max rip-off. for something that presents an extremely plausible version of the type of apocalypse that we may actually face, Children of Men nails it on the head.

easily the best Sci Fi film since 2001. this is undebatable

Well, that's an interesting Idea and I suppose that gives the underlying story CoM some traction, but the movie still sucked. I don't care if a movie is based on some possible future, I care that the movie convincingly creates that future(which it doesn't), that it's entertaining(snooze fest for the most part), and that at the end I don't feel ripped off spending $$ on(which I did).

If it was one of the best of 2001, 2001 was not a very good year.

:laugh:
he meant 2001: Space Odyssey

I agree with zinfamous. CoM was a great scifi movie.
I'd like to add bladerunner to the list of greats as well.

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: TheChort

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: zinfamous

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: zinfamous

Originally posted by: andylawcc
i like Children of Men far better as a apopcalyptic movie.

x 1,000,000

uke:

CoM is a poor excuse as an Apocalyptic Movie. No one has been born, whoopty frickin doo, I think chaos would ensue, right after everyone quit shrugging and going off to buy the latest gadget.

that's not what makes it good sci fi. the point is that it is the near and very possible future. economic shifts affected by massive human migration due to global climate change and dwindling resources. This is the background. on top of this, we are dealing with the concept that nature has selected against us, so how do we survive?

if you want cookie-cutter "apocalyptic" BS, then rent every other Mad Max rip-off. for something that presents an extremely plausible version of the type of apocalypse that we may actually face, Children of Men nails it on the head.

easily the best Sci Fi film since 2001. this is undebatable

Well, that's an interesting Idea and I suppose that gives the underlying story CoM some traction, but the movie still sucked. I don't care if a movie is based on some possible future, I care that the movie convincingly creates that future(which it doesn't), that it's entertaining(snooze fest for the most part), and that at the end I don't feel ripped off spending $$ on(which I did).

If it was one of the best of 2001, 2001 was not a very good year.

:laugh:
he meant 2001: Space Odyssey

I agree with zinfamous. CoM was a great scifi movie.
I'd like to add bladerunner to the list of greats as well.

I'll agree with you on Blade Runner, but never on CoM.

 

[Arkaign]

Children of Men > j00

 

[Homerboy]

Ok I just watched this yesterday.
I don't get how the chick got on/off the island just that easily. I had a major problem with that.

 

[ChAoTiCpInOy]

Originally posted by: Homerboy
Ok I just watched this yesterday.
I don't get how the chick got on/off the island just that easily. I had a major problem with that.

Exactly I don't understand that either. Also in the alternate ending, they took her trunk across the bridge. WTH...

 

[Homerboy]

Originally posted by: ChAoTiCpInOy

Originally posted by: Homerboy
Ok I just watched this yesterday.
I don't get how the chick got on/off the island just that easily. I had a major problem with that.

Exactly I don't understand that either. Also in the alternate ending, they took her trunk across the bridge. WTH...

I haven't seen the alternate ending yet (will watch)... but I mean you can't just gloss over the fact that "oh... here's somebody that just came into the city because they felt like it... and left when they left like it too..." It defeats the whole purpose of them isolating the city itself in the first place.

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: zinfamous

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: zinfamous

Originally posted by: andylawcc
i like Children of Men far better as a apopcalyptic movie.

x 1,000,000

uke:

CoM is a poor excuse as an Apocalyptic Movie. No one has been born, whoopty frickin doo, I think chaos would ensue, right after everyone quit shrugging and going off to buy the latest gadget.

that's not what makes it good sci fi. the point is that it is the near and very possible future. economic shifts affected by massive human migration due to global climate change and dwindling resources. This is the background. on top of this, we are dealing with the concept that nature has selected against us, so how do we survive?

if you want cookie-cutter "apocalyptic" BS, then rent every other Mad Max rip-off. for something that presents an extremely plausible version of the type of apocalypse that we may actually face, Children of Men nails it on the head.

easily the best Sci Fi film since 2001. this is undebatable

Well, that's an interesting Idea and I suppose that gives the underlying story CoM some traction, but the movie still sucked. I don't care if a movie is based on some possible future, I care that the movie convincingly creates that future(which it doesn't), that it's entertaining(snooze fest for the most part), and that at the end I don't feel ripped off spending $$ on(which I did).

If it was one of the best of 2001, 2001 was not a very good year.

Lol at old thread.

anyhoo. How is the future depicted in CoM not convincing? compared to what...the Fifth Element? again, the best Sic Fi is near-future; something plausible and relatable to the present. what is a convincing recreation of the future? hover boards in 2006? Flying cars and spaceships in the year 3246? How does one determine that a time period so inconceivably distant is convincingly depicted by present assumptions?

did you feel ripped-off b/c of the ending? The central message of the film--Hope Exists--was resolved. it was never about this can be fixed, or can't be fixed, but that despite what happens to us, or what we do to ourselves, hope remains. That is our humanity and what allows us to overcome any potential disaster. This is a classic, and often re-hashed theme in the best of Sci-Fi.

The story was also Clive Owen's story and no one else's. Once there is no need to follow his character, the story rightfully ends.

 

[ThePresence]

Originally posted by: Homerboy

Originally posted by: ChAoTiCpInOy

Originally posted by: Homerboy
Ok I just watched this yesterday.
I don't get how the chick got on/off the island just that easily. I had a major problem with that.

Exactly I don't understand that either. Also in the alternate ending, they took her trunk across the bridge. WTH...

I haven't seen the alternate ending yet (will watch)... but I mean you can't just gloss over the fact that "oh... here's somebody that just came into the city because they felt like it... and left when they left like it too..." It defeats the whole purpose of them isolating the city itself in the first place.

The bridge they drove over in the alt. ending is the George Washington Bridge. I don't know why they would blow up all the East River bridges, but leave the Hudson River crossings intact. Makes no sense. Also, if there was always a bridge, that is very poor containment. Again, makes no sense. But other than this gaping plot hole, the movie is great.

 

[rockyct]

Originally posted by: zinfamous

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: zinfamous

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: zinfamous

Originally posted by: andylawcc
i like Children of Men far better as a apopcalyptic movie.

x 1,000,000

uke:

CoM is a poor excuse as an Apocalyptic Movie. No one has been born, whoopty frickin doo, I think chaos would ensue, right after everyone quit shrugging and going off to buy the latest gadget.

that's not what makes it good sci fi. the point is that it is the near and very possible future. economic shifts affected by massive human migration due to global climate change and dwindling resources. This is the background. on top of this, we are dealing with the concept that nature has selected against us, so how do we survive?

if you want cookie-cutter "apocalyptic" BS, then rent every other Mad Max rip-off. for something that presents an extremely plausible version of the type of apocalypse that we may actually face, Children of Men nails it on the head.

easily the best Sci Fi film since 2001. this is undebatable

Well, that's an interesting Idea and I suppose that gives the underlying story CoM some traction, but the movie still sucked. I don't care if a movie is based on some possible future, I care that the movie convincingly creates that future(which it doesn't), that it's entertaining(snooze fest for the most part), and that at the end I don't feel ripped off spending $$ on(which I did).

If it was one of the best of 2001, 2001 was not a very good year.

Lol at old thread.

anyhoo. How is the future depicted in CoM not convincing? compared to what...the Fifth Element? again, the best Sic Fi is near-future; something plausible and relatable to the present. what is a convincing recreation of the future? hover boards in 2006? Flying cars and spaceships in the year 3246? How does one determine that a time period so inconceivably distant is convincingly depicted by present assumptions?

did you feel ripped-off b/c of the ending? The central message of the film--Hope Exists--was resolved. it was never about this can be fixed, or can't be fixed, but that despite what happens to us, or what we do to ourselves, hope remains. That is our humanity and what allows us to overcome any potential disaster. This is a classic, and often re-hashed theme in the best of Sci-Fi.

The story was also Clive Owen's story and no one else's. Once there is no need to follow his character, the story rightfully ends.

I loved Children of Men as well. It's one of the few movies that has room for interpretation and improves after hearing others ideas about it. Plus, the CGI was done seamlessly, the car scene and a few others (don't want to spoil it). The ending, while sudden, was perfect after thinking about it.

Anyway, I just saw I Am Legend and I thought it was a good movie overall. I didn't read the book, so I have nothing to compare it too. I was suspicious how a zombified population of NYC could sustain itself, but then he mentioned that 90% of those infected died and the rest became zombies. Like others have said, the ending seemed rushed and the whole movie could have been longer.

As for the bridge the woman and her son escaped on, I'm sure they didn't want to demo all of the roads. Destroying all but one bridge would allow them to consolidate resources to one area to protect while leaving one lifeline open.

I do find it kind of funny that people complain about un-Hollywood like endings like CoM and No Country for Old Men and still complain about Hollywood blockbuster endings like this movie.

 

[venkman]

Maybe the Military still wanted to be able to go in/out of the island and it is MUCH easier to defend/guard a single choke point than multiple points.

 

[irishScott]

Originally posted by: timosyy
Batman trailer made it worth it.

Film itself -- I thought it was pretty good until the sudden copout ending. I mean that safe he stuffed the woman & kid in is closable from the inside right? Get inside, wait for baddies to break through, toss grenade, close door. Good character development through the movie though, audience can really see how living alone has worn him down.

Pretty much. Wasted potential on the whole though. That movie could have been awesome.

Alternate ending >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Theatrical ending.

 

[Baked]

Just finished the movie, then the alt ending. The alt ending is super lame.

 

[BAMAVOO]

I watched this movie and I believe they should change the title to I AM BORING.

 

[rasczak]

I read the book and thought it was terrific. haven't seen the movie yet though, and now with this thread and most of the replies being positive, i will rent it. the only thing that may bother me is how the movie differs from the book in regards to the zombies vs vampires.

did this tae away from the movie any?

 

[oddyager]

Purchased the DVD and saw the alternate ending. Have to agree with Baked.

 

[FreshPrince]

someone PM me what happened in the alternate ending...

 

[Baked]

You can watch the alt. ending on google video.

***SPOILER ALERT***

In the alt. ending, the zombie leader intention was to get the female zombie Will Smith captured for experiment. Smith hands over the female zombie, and the zombies go their merry way. Smith and the latino chick and kid drives across some bridge. Movie ends. Like I said, it's super lame, contradicts what smith said earlier in the movie about the zombie's lack of emotion, even though you can clearly see the lead zombie risking his life in trying to save the female zombie when she was captured by Smith, and the BRIDGE! I thought they shot all the bridges!

 

[IAteYourMother]

Originally posted by: Baked
You can watch the alt. ending on google video.

***SPOILER ALERT***

In the alt. ending, the zombie leader intention was to get the female zombie Will Smith captured for experiment. Smith hands over the female zombie, and the zombies go their merry way. Smith and the latino chick and kid drives across some bridge. Movie ends. Like I said, it's super lame, contradicts what smith said earlier in the movie about the zombie's lack of emotion, even though you can clearly see the lead zombie risking his life in trying to save the female zombie when she was captured by Smith, and the BRIDGE! I thought they shot all the bridges!

i mean, the point is that it does contradict smith's thinking that zombies have no emotion.

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: rasczak
I read the book and thought it was terrific. haven't seen the movie yet though, and now with this thread and most of the replies being positive, i will rent it. the only thing that may bother me is how the movie differs from the book in regards to the zombies vs vampires.

did this tae away from the movie any?

from what I've heard of the book, and the original versions of this movie, the will smith one is nothing like the original story.

In fact, it is disappointingly lame, in comparison. The actual story does not exist in this flick. This new version is really nothing more than a typical pointless zombie flick with better camera angles and lighting.

 

[FreshPrince]

Originally posted by: IAteYourMother

Originally posted by: Baked
You can watch the alt. ending on google video.

***SPOILER ALERT***

In the alt. ending, the zombie leader intention was to get the female zombie Will Smith captured for experiment. Smith hands over the female zombie, and the zombies go their merry way. Smith and the latino chick and kid drives across some bridge. Movie ends. Like I said, it's super lame, contradicts what smith said earlier in the movie about the zombie's lack of emotion, even though you can clearly see the lead zombie risking his life in trying to save the female zombie when she was captured by Smith, and the BRIDGE! I thought they shot all the bridges!

i mean, the point is that it does contradict smith's thinking that zombies have no emotion.

that actually sounds better...

clearly in the movie he was losing his mind so he thought process could be wrong. sounds like the alternate ending proves this, hence giving the title more meaning. He is a legend to the zombies because he killed a bunch of them....

sounds like I need to buy the DVD

 

[imported_Imp]

Originally posted by: FreshPrince

Originally posted by: IAteYourMother

Originally posted by: Baked
You can watch the alt. ending on google video.

***SPOILER ALERT***

In the alt. ending, the zombie leader intention was to get the female zombie Will Smith captured for experiment. Smith hands over the female zombie, and the zombies go their merry way. Smith and the latino chick and kid drives across some bridge. Movie ends. Like I said, it's super lame, contradicts what smith said earlier in the movie about the zombie's lack of emotion, even though you can clearly see the lead zombie risking his life in trying to save the female zombie when she was captured by Smith, and the BRIDGE! I thought they shot all the bridges!

i mean, the point is that it does contradict smith's thinking that zombies have no emotion.

that actually sounds better...

clearly in the movie he was losing his mind so he thought process could be wrong. sounds like the alternate ending proves this, hence giving the title more meaning. He is a legend to the zombies because he killed a bunch of them....

sounds like I need to buy the DVD

Hope you have a Blu-ray. I was cheap and only got the regular DVD with no alt. ending. The 'special' edition was $30 and the Blu-ray was $30 (included all special stuff), but I needed that $10 for peace of mind.

 

[tfcmasta97]

Instead of having one bad ending... the movie had two bad endings

 

[FreshPrince]

Originally posted by: Imp

Originally posted by: FreshPrince

Originally posted by: IAteYourMother

Originally posted by: Baked
You can watch the alt. ending on google video.

***SPOILER ALERT***

In the alt. ending, the zombie leader intention was to get the female zombie Will Smith captured for experiment. Smith hands over the female zombie, and the zombies go their merry way. Smith and the latino chick and kid drives across some bridge. Movie ends. Like I said, it's super lame, contradicts what smith said earlier in the movie about the zombie's lack of emotion, even though you can clearly see the lead zombie risking his life in trying to save the female zombie when she was captured by Smith, and the BRIDGE! I thought they shot all the bridges!

i mean, the point is that it does contradict smith's thinking that zombies have no emotion.

that actually sounds better...

clearly in the movie he was losing his mind so he thought process could be wrong. sounds like the alternate ending proves this, hence giving the title more meaning. He is a legend to the zombies because he killed a bunch of them....

sounds like I need to buy the DVD

Hope you have a Blu-ray. I was cheap and only got the regular DVD with no alt. ending. The 'special' edition was $30 and the Blu-ray was $30 (included all special stuff), but I needed that $10 for peace of mind.

don't worry, my lappy plays bluray, check my sig