I am going to shoot (kill) my GFs dog (she wants me to)

[Azraele]

<< They in themselves inflict a lot of suffering on an infested animal . . . Dogs, especially the outside one, should also be on heartworm meds, but as far as I know they do require a prescription. >>


True, fleas not only cause endless itching, but thay can also cause tapeworm infestation.
Heartworm meds are a must. They're dangerous parasites and even the cure for infestation can be lethal/dangerous.

 

[Perknose]

First of all, for the fleas and ticks, do what several others here have recently suggested. I'm also wondering why you haven't done this before, or made your GF do it.

As for heartworm medecine, you HAVE to have the dog tested first, because if the dog already has heart worms, the heartworm medecine will kill him/her when applied. To clarify, giving heartworm medecine to a dog already infested with heartworms will kill that dog.

Re:euthanasia. Your joke profile is uninformative as to where you live. Many shelters in larger areas euthanize dogs with decompression chambers, WHICH IS A VERY PAINFUL WAY TO DIE. So, why do they do it? To minimize the traumatization of the poor animal loving workers who must perform these operations, that's why. It's just a little less personal than holding a dog down while you inject it.

As others pointed out, $200 is ridiculously steep for euthanasia. When my Great Dane (immobile from bone cancer) needed to be put down, my friends and I put him in the back of my (then) Datsun wagon, and we drove him around as close as we could get by car to many of the wooded haunts in which he and I had roamed. Then, I paid an understanding vet $60 to come out to my house (also in the woods), and administer the coup de grace in the sunlight, amidst familiar sights and smells, surrounded by his human friends, after a last meal of steak.

I don't know the full extent of your relationship to and love of dogs, nor do I know the same about you and your GF, but, again, as several have ventured to opine, with the right care and treatment that pup could probably still thrive.

Why not shoot your GF instead?

 

[gl0rfindel]

shoot it

 

[BooneRebel]

<< I don't know the full extent of your relationship to and love of dogs, nor do I know the same about you and your GF, but, again, as several have ventured to opine, with the right care and treatment that pup could probably still thrive.

Why not shoot your GF instead? >>

<sigh...> When are people going to get it. A dog is a pet. It's not a person. There's no reason to spend thousands on surgery, medications, etc., just to extend the life of an already miserable little critter. If we're talking about a person, sure, it's different. But a dog? Come on, give me a break. One round in the back of the skull and it's all over with. And even if you did take it to a shelter, who in their right mind is going to adopt a 10-year old yapdog that probably has emotional problems from being locked up in a room for so long?

 

[Bignate603]

Um, decompression chambers are NOT painfull, the dog doesn't suffocate, it asfixates (spelling?) which is vastly different. In suffocation it's VERY painful, your lungs burn, and you struggle to breathe because the excessive amount of CO2 building up in your blood. Our bodies can't tell how much oxygen we have in our blood, we tell when we need to breathe by the CO2 content, the more CO2 in the blood the more acidic it is (dissolved CO2 turns into carbonic acid) and once the CO2 passes a certain level we have the urge to breathe. Suffocating is like sticking a plastic bag over your head, you will feel pain as your body feels it's not breathing because the CO2 builds up. In a decompression chamber the CO2 does not build up. Instead all the air is drawn out. Since the CO2 doesn't build up the dog doesn't feel the increasing need to breathe, the oxygen level in the blood drops and the dog "goes to sleep", basically fainting as the oxygen to his brain drops below the level needed to stay conscious. Think about when you stand up quickly and your eyes start to black out and you feel dizzy, like you're going to faint, same thing, lack of oxygen to the brain and that is NOT painful. It might be disorienting but there is no pain involved. They actually use decompression chambers in pilot training for the airforce, the pilots are asked to write something over and over again while the pressure is dropped in the chamber. As the pressure falls the pilots feel normal but start to have more and more trouble thinking, and start messing up they're copying, without realizing it. Officers overseeing them (who are breathing compressed air themselves) watch for when they start becoming close to fainting and have them put on air masks before they do. The process is not painful, and is actually the same way many drugs make you "high".

 

[dakata24]

just drop it off at the local spca early in the morning before they open.. i knew someone that got rid of a cat that way..

 

[FettsBabe]

Michael,

I normally agree with you on most things, but this is absolutely obsurd. There are groups who take care of animals in this sort of condition. One is the North Shore Animal League...if you have any decency please call them.

 

[FettsBabe]

BooneRebel...you are a sorry excuse for a human :|

 

[Perknose]

<<Um, decompression chambers are NOT painfull, the dog doesn't suffocate, it asfixates (spelling?) which is vastly different.>>

Um, Bignate603, despite your impressive knowledge of air force pilot training procedures, you are decidedly WRONG about the type of chambers used to euthanize dogs. But, please, don't take my word for it. Instead, let's turn to the American Veterinary Medical Association's Panel on Euthanasia. It's report, found here and here, lists decompression in Table 4 under Appendix M, which is entitled Summary of Some <U>Unacceptable </U>Agents and Methods of Euthanasia. The AVMA gives the following reasons:

"Decompression is not a recommended method for euthanasia because of the numerous disadvantages. (1) Many chambers are designed to produce decompression at a rate 15 to 60 times faster than that recommended as optimum for animals, resulting in pain and distress due to expanding gases trapped in body cavities. (2) Immature animals are tolerant of hypoxia, and longer periods of decompression are required before respiration ceases. (3) Accidental recompression, with recovery of injured animals can occur. (4) Bloating, bleeding, vomiting, convulsions, urination, and defecation, which are aesthetically unpleasant, may occur in the unconscious animal."

Before you manly men out there think this is a wussified report, allow me to list the <U>conditionally acceptable</U> methods of euthanasia(Table 3):

Cervical dislocation

Decapitation

Penetrating captive bolt (my personal favorite).

Gunshot

Electrocution

Pithing

Nitrogen, argon.

 

[Bulldozer]

BooneRebel is absolutely right.

I still don't understand what is so horrible about the bullet in the head. There won't be any pain involved, so what's the problem? Believe it or not, this is common practice all over the world, including the U.S.



MichaelD, unfortunately it needs to be done. Just don't get caught.

 

[Quaggoth]

I would agree w/ the person who posted it first (Don't want to go back a check... Cook it a nice steak and when it gets near the last bite or two.....

Don't use a 22 though, make sure it's done on the first shot and AIM WELL!!! The last thing you want to hear is a dog in that much pain and then you probably won't be able to hit it again and you would have to "Do it yourself".

 

[Sepen]

<< BooneRebel...you are a sorry excuse for a human :| >>

 

[Scouzer]

Well...I'd definitely agree trying the SPCA and other humane societies before shooting the poor thing...but if push comes to shove...I think shooting it is the next best thing. It sounds like it'd like to die anyway. I would never have the heart to shoot an animal (especially domestic)...but its probably the best thing to do. Good luck.

Oh, btw... if I were you I'd consider losing the white trash G/F... (I'm white btw..)

 

[GrumpyMan]

No offense but maybe it's your GF you should take care of instead of the dog.

 

[datalink7]

"We give dogs time we can spare, space we can spare
and love we can spare. And in return, dogs give us their all.
It's the best deal man has ever made"
- M. Facklam

 

[dude8604]

Take the dog to a humane society or the SPCA. At the least, you run the risk of getting arrested if you shoot the dog. I think that spending a few minutes thinking about taking it to the SPCA is worth not risking getting arrested.

http://www.aspca.org/site/FrameSet?style=Shelter&url=../script_forms/shelter.html

 

[Pacfanweb]

<< normally agree with you on most things, but this is absolutely obsurd. There are groups who take care of animals in this sort of condition. One is the North Shore Animal League...if you have any decency please call them. >>

Great idea. I totally forgot about them, even though I donate to them yearly.

They take dogs from situations like that all the time and either rehab them and place them in homes, or make them comfortable and keep them until they die.

A dog isn't the same as a wild animal And I'm not a city boy. I've hunted plenty, raised chickens, quail, basically every bird you can think of, hogs, etc.
I never liked killing something for food, even though that's what it was bred for, but dogs and cats are different. You don't keep a hog 10 years IN YOUR HOUSE and then shoot it so it can become sausage.

The animal shelter is the best bet, I think, but North Shore Animal League might be an option, also.

And yes, get rid of the Ellie Mae and the rest of the Clampetts.

 

[Aceman]

<< <sigh...> When are people going to get it. A dog is a pet. It's not a person. There's no reason to spend thousands on surgery, medications, etc., just to extend the life of an already miserable little critter. If we're talking about a person, sure, it's different. But a dog? Come on, give me a break. One round in the back of the skull and it's all over with. And even if you did take it to a shelter, who in their right mind is going to adopt a 10-year old yapdog that probably has emotional problems from being locked up in a room for so long? >>



You don't have any pets in your care, do you? I said care, not own. In my family, along with many, many others, the pets in our care are considered part of the family. So in your family is it alright to take grandma out back and put a round in the back of her skull? Granted, many people don't believe in spending money on expensive surgeries and medical care, but many of us do care and realize the responsibilities of owning a pet.

MichaelD, you give a description of the dog's condition, but from what I gather, this dog really hasn't been to a vet to have attention given to it's health problems. The may be able to easily remedy them. It would steam me MichaelD, if you put a bullet in the dog's head when there is probably a shelter that would happily take that dog in, nurse it back and find a caring family for it. But, in the end, it's your choice and one that only you will have to live with. God know I couldn't live with shooting any pet.


Proud caregiver to 3 dogs and 1 cat that were once on death row in the Humane Society. <---- aceman

 

[wQuay]

A bullet to the brain is just as "humane" as a lethal injection.

 

[dude8604]

<< A bullet to the brain is just as "humane" as a lethal injection. >>



But it's less legal...

 

[Mday]

moment of silence...

um, you may want techniques on how to do it, you dont want blood splattered all over the place. btw, you are committing a health violation.

 

[thedarkwolf]

The important thing is after you take care of the old dog is CALL THE ASPCA ON THE DAD!!!!! Get his dog taken away before it ends up the same way.

 

[DevilsAdvocate]

Dude -

Don't kill the dog. You can probably trade it to some Vietnamese guy on FS/FT for a DVD or 2. The shipping shouldn't be that bad given the fact that it is a Chihuahua.

 

[MichaelD]

<< First of all, for the fleas and ticks, do what several others here have recently suggested. I'm also wondering why you haven't done this before, or made your GF do it.

As for heartworm medecine, you HAVE to have the dog tested first, because if the dog already has heart worms, the heartworm medecine will kill him/her when applied. To clarify, giving heartworm medecine to a dog already infested with heartworms will kill that dog.

Re:euthanasia. Your joke profile is uninformative as to where you live. Many shelters in larger areas euthanize dogs with decompression chambers, WHICH IS A VERY PAINFUL WAY TO DIE. So, why do they do it? To minimize the traumatization of the poor animal loving workers who must perform these operations, that's why. It's just a little less personal than holding a dog down while you inject it.

As others pointed out, $200 is ridiculously steep for euthanasia. When my Great Dane (immobile from bone cancer) needed to be put down, my friends and I put him in the back of my (then) Datsun wagon, and we drove him around as close as we could get by car to many of the wooded haunts in which he and I had roamed. Then, I paid an understanding vet $60 to come out to my house (also in the woods), and administer the coup de grace in the sunlight, amidst familiar sights and smells, surrounded by his human friends, after a last meal of steak.

I don't know the full extent of your relationship to and love of dogs, nor do I know the same about you and your GF, but, again, as several have ventured to opine, with the right care and treatment that pup could probably still thrive.

Why not shoot your GF instead? >>




Your response was great up until the last line. Then you got "gonged." I don't know whether that last line was some subliminal attempt to get me to reconsider my "shoot the dog" stance, or whether you are just a real idiot. Doesn't really matter, actually.

 

[djheater]

<< Just drop the dog off at a humane society. They'll euthanize it for you... >>



But perhaps you're looking forward to the kill.