dude a .22 will not definately kill the animal in the first shot, it won't go through the body and i'm not even sure if it could blow all the way through the head of the dog. used a .308 or a shotgun at least 16 guage or bigger (smaller guage is bigger)
<< dude a .22 will not definately kill the animal in the first shot, it won't go through the body and i'm not even sure if it could blow all the way through the head of the dog. used a .308 or a shotgun at least 16 guage or bigger (smaller guage is bigger) >>
Yeah, and be sure to put on your rainsuit first. Why not call in heavy artilery?
Hey, lets try to be reasonable ok?
<< Yeah, and be sure to put on your rainsuit first. Why not call in heavy artilery?
>>
How about a couple of pounds of C4?
<< Yeah, and be sure to put on your rainsuit first. Why not call in heavy artilery?
How about a couple of pounds of C4?
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Hi everyone,
<< What dysfunctional family allows a brother and father to ignore their responsibilities like this, leaving it up to the sister and her boyfriend? >>
Yup, you hit it right on the head. My GF comes from one of the most dysfunctional families I've ever seen. That's not a reason not to love her, however.
I've been with many "more normal" women that had lots of other probs (drugs/alcohol/slutty friends/kids/etc) and my GF has none of those. What she does have is a very dysfunctional, abnormal family. It's not her fault...she didn't make the choice to be born, you know.
McCarthy, that was one of the best-written posts I've read in quite some time. Thank you.
MWilding also put my thoughts into words very well. IF this happens, I'm not choosing the method that I get my jollies from; I'm choosing the method that I feel is most humane. All dogs freak out the second you drag them into the Vet's office. That'll just make it all that much harder.
<< Why can't you come up with the money to put it to sleep? It's not as much as you had originally thought >>
Quite simply, "it ain't my bill to pay, brother." The $50 or $100 or whatever isn't the point. The point is that it isn't my dog and if money has to be spent on it, it should be spend by the dog's owner. Who also should've never taken it in the first damn place, but hindsight is 20/20.
For those who may be wondering...S&W 9mm. +P hollowpoints.
<< What dysfunctional family allows a brother and father to ignore their responsibilities like this, leaving it up to the sister and her boyfriend? >>
Yup, you hit it right on the head. My GF comes from one of the most dysfunctional families I've ever seen. That's not a reason not to love her, however.
I've been with many "more normal" women that had lots of other probs (drugs/alcohol/slutty friends/kids/etc) and my GF has none of those. What she does have is a very dysfunctional, abnormal family. It's not her fault...she didn't make the choice to be born, you know.
McCarthy, that was one of the best-written posts I've read in quite some time. Thank you.
MWilding also put my thoughts into words very well. IF this happens, I'm not choosing the method that I get my jollies from; I'm choosing the method that I feel is most humane. All dogs freak out the second you drag them into the Vet's office. That'll just make it all that much harder.
<< Why can't you come up with the money to put it to sleep? It's not as much as you had originally thought >>
Quite simply, "it ain't my bill to pay, brother." The $50 or $100 or whatever isn't the point. The point is that it isn't my dog and if money has to be spent on it, it should be spend by the dog's owner. Who also should've never taken it in the first damn place, but hindsight is 20/20.
For those who may be wondering...S&W 9mm. +P hollowpoints.
<< dude a .22 will not definately kill the animal in the first shot, it won't go through the body and i'm not even sure if it could blow all the way through the head of the dog. used a .308 or a shotgun at least 16 guage or bigger (smaller guage is bigger) >>
For such a small animal even a .22 would be instantaneous if you shot it in the head.
My brother is an excellent shot, & even his pellet gun will blow out the back of a squirrel's head - he regularly shoots them out of trees with a single shot to the head.
A .22 is significantly more powerful than his bb/pellet gun, & should be sufficient for such a small dog.
Don't believe me?
Link
.22 Bullets For Deer Hunting??
by Kevin Thomas
Q. Which of your .22 Caliber bullets do you recommend for deer? In my state .22 Caliber centerfires are now legal for big game use, and IÕd like to use my .22-250 for deer this year.
A. While it is undeniable that most .22 centerfires are capable of taking deer size game, we want to stress the fact that they are marginal even under the best of circumstances. Most .224" diameter bullets are designed for use on varmints, or are match bullets not intended to expand. If you absolutely must use a .22 centerfire, choose as heavy a bullet as your rifle will reliably stabilize. A thicker jacket, such as those designed for .22-250 or .220 Swift velocities will also help. Consequently, we would recommend something like a 55 grain spitzer or spitzer boattail, 60 grain hollow point, or 63 grain semi-pointed. Place your shots with extreme care, and don't take any questionable shots.
Viper GTS
>What are your thoughts? Remember, I'm not going to torture the poor thing, I'm going to make it quick. I have shot a horse in the past, so this is not a new thing to me>
it sucks and the poor dog should get a better life.cant someone take care of it??
it sucks and the poor dog should get a better life.cant someone take care of it??
i'm not saying a .22 is weak, my brother shot it though 4" of wood with no prob but i'm not sure it will kill the thing in 1 shot
I've read through all the posts and have some weird feelings about some of these suggestions. I think I'm a pretty thick-skinned dude, but my attitudes have changed since my neighbors dog, as well as my own were poisoned with anti-freeze a month ago.
Killing an animal has consequences that might come back to haunt you. I don't know who did this to my dog, but somewhere down the line, karma is gonna catch up with him.
Killing an animal has consequences that might come back to haunt you. I don't know who did this to my dog, but somewhere down the line, karma is gonna catch up with him.
A stray dog was hit by a car near my parents warehouse in NYC, one shot from a 9mm Glock 19 put the mutt out of its misery. Highly recommend a decent caliber to make sure it is a quick death. Also be careful since bullets can take weird trajectories. The idea of sleeping pills or something to first knock it out is not a bad idea (antihistimine perhaps?). This way the animal is stationary. Less of a danger to you too. Also consider how to dispose of the carcass afterwards. In our case the ASPCA/animal control arrived and took care of it.
First off to all the bleeding hearts, the dog will not know what is going on. That is the difference between humans and most animals. Animals have no sense or knowledge of death. As far as the dog knows, it's just another day.
I see lots of posts where people basically say "deal with it" but I don't see too many where people are volunteering to take in the dog. So anyone willing to live up to "the moral high ground" and adopt MichaelD's dog? Remember, you must be willing to take care of it to its dying day.
Windogg
First off to all the bleeding hearts, the dog will not know what is going on. That is the difference between humans and most animals. Animals have no sense or knowledge of death. As far as the dog knows, it's just another day.
I see lots of posts where people basically say "deal with it" but I don't see too many where people are volunteering to take in the dog. So anyone willing to live up to "the moral high ground" and adopt MichaelD's dog? Remember, you must be willing to take care of it to its dying day.
Windogg
Viper, I .22-250 is just a teeny bit different than a "normal" .22 (LR). If some one says ".22" usually it means .22 LR, not .22-250
Ok, I read through every reply. I know some people are more thick skinned about this but the thought of shooting a dog just makes me sick to my stomach. I can understand how other people would feel differently and I won't judge but I would just like to offer my opinion and I hope that you read it and really consider all of your options.
First off, I believe this is your first time shooting a dog (horses are different from dogs). Most people here are saying that with one shot you will kill the dog instantly etc. but I am also reading other opinions saying that there is a possibility something else will happen and you won't kill the dog with one shot. Since I know nothing about guns and whatnot I can't say what I think will happen and I would think that since you have never had experience doing this, there is likely a possibility that something *could* go wrong and you don't kill the dog in one shot. If that happens the dog is suffering horribly and it is certainly not a humane way to end its life. On the other hand, if you take it to a vet or even a humane society, they have had experience doing this and know what they are doing and the dog will be able to end its life in the most humane way possible.
Personally, I feel that the dog has done nothing wrong and while it is really none of your responsibility, you are willing to end its life. I dont' think much more work is needed to take it to a humane society where they will do it for free. If you are worried about costs or whatever please pm me or post where you live and I will do some research online or call places to see where you can drop it off for free. PLEASE PLEASE do this, I don't mind looking this stuff up at all. There is the possibility that the dog will not have to die and will get fixed up. Some people are posting who would want a dog like this but I know people who adopt pets specifically like this because they love animals. My sister did this with her own cats. If there is any chance that this dog can live a better, happier life I would take it. Don't you think it deserves that much? And personally, I think taking it to a humane society will be less work than taking it to the woods and killing it. I still fail to see the reason why that route would be best or more humane. Again, if it's cost, I will research because I know places that will take the dog free of charge, if it's time, I think you will actually spend less time than if u did it yourself, and if it's because it's not your responsibility, then don't kill the dog anyway (it's not your responsibility!).
Lastly, I find it weird that you are posting about it on this board. You are obviously very steadfast in what you believe and even when others offer their opinions you listen politely but it's obvious you seem to have already made up your mind. What was the point of posting this? Maybe you have doubts? As reasons stated above, I find no reason that you, yourself, should have to kill the dog.
First off, I believe this is your first time shooting a dog (horses are different from dogs). Most people here are saying that with one shot you will kill the dog instantly etc. but I am also reading other opinions saying that there is a possibility something else will happen and you won't kill the dog with one shot. Since I know nothing about guns and whatnot I can't say what I think will happen and I would think that since you have never had experience doing this, there is likely a possibility that something *could* go wrong and you don't kill the dog in one shot. If that happens the dog is suffering horribly and it is certainly not a humane way to end its life. On the other hand, if you take it to a vet or even a humane society, they have had experience doing this and know what they are doing and the dog will be able to end its life in the most humane way possible.
Personally, I feel that the dog has done nothing wrong and while it is really none of your responsibility, you are willing to end its life. I dont' think much more work is needed to take it to a humane society where they will do it for free. If you are worried about costs or whatever please pm me or post where you live and I will do some research online or call places to see where you can drop it off for free. PLEASE PLEASE do this, I don't mind looking this stuff up at all. There is the possibility that the dog will not have to die and will get fixed up. Some people are posting who would want a dog like this but I know people who adopt pets specifically like this because they love animals. My sister did this with her own cats. If there is any chance that this dog can live a better, happier life I would take it. Don't you think it deserves that much? And personally, I think taking it to a humane society will be less work than taking it to the woods and killing it. I still fail to see the reason why that route would be best or more humane. Again, if it's cost, I will research because I know places that will take the dog free of charge, if it's time, I think you will actually spend less time than if u did it yourself, and if it's because it's not your responsibility, then don't kill the dog anyway (it's not your responsibility!).
Lastly, I find it weird that you are posting about it on this board. You are obviously very steadfast in what you believe and even when others offer their opinions you listen politely but it's obvious you seem to have already made up your mind. What was the point of posting this? Maybe you have doubts? As reasons stated above, I find no reason that you, yourself, should have to kill the dog.
it's like the thing of asking "should i jump off the high diving board" of course you are askin because you really don't want to but your friends will always say "yeah go ahead"
he's seeing what other think of the situation so that he knows he is not going into something stupid by accident.
if you take the dog to the pound i'm pretty sure they would put him down for free because they do it all the time anyway. shooting it with a .308 would fix it real fast but it could damage you emotionaly and since it is very loud, you could get in huge trouble with the pigs since they can detect roughly how far away the shot was fired....
he's seeing what other think of the situation so that he knows he is not going into something stupid by accident.
if you take the dog to the pound i'm pretty sure they would put him down for free because they do it all the time anyway. shooting it with a .308 would fix it real fast but it could damage you emotionaly and since it is very loud, you could get in huge trouble with the pigs since they can detect roughly how far away the shot was fired....
<< i'm not saying a .22 is weak, my brother shot it though 4" of wood with no prob but i'm not sure it will kill the thing in 1 shot >>
He's shooting a dog that is HALF Chuihuaha. I would guess its about 25lbs at the most. The skull is not going to be harder than 4 inches of wood. Now, maybe if it was at least German Shepherd size you'd have to use something bigger, but its half Chuihuaha. A .308 is overkill, as is a 12 gauge. You want to bury the dog, not bury the pieces you manage to scrape together. Dear Lord, I'm surprised none of the people in this thread hasnt suggested something in 50 BMG or 338 Lapua Magnum, or maybe a Desert Eagle. OH OH OH, wait a minute, how about using a 44 Magnum, [Clint Eastwood voice]"the most powerful handgun in the world."[/Clint Eastwood voice] Or even better, strafe it with an A-10 Warthog! Those 30mm DU shells should make short work of that dog!
MichaelD, those 9mm +P hollowpoints should work quite well. You've got enough power in them to penetrate the dog lengthwise (assuming the hollowpoints arent designed to expand extremely rapidly), so as long as you place your shot well, you wont have a problem. I will stress the part about shot placement. Try feeding him a nice steak or having him be sleeping when you shoot, basically anything to ensure his head wont move drastically right before firing.
PS: I know that the 44 Magnum isnt even in the top 3 as far as most powerful handgun cartridge.
what is the most powerful btw?
.44 mag is near the top, that is just HUGE, it's more powful than the .50 cal deasert eagle
.44 mag is near the top, that is just HUGE, it's more powful than the .50 cal deasert eagle
<< Just drop the dog off at a humane society. They'll euthanize it for you... >>
How sad and true that is.
My old man has a pet shop and people ask him how to get rid of pets they don't want anymore. He usually sends them to the human society, but what do you think they are going to do?
People, if you can not take care of your pets, do not get them.
So what did you decide to do?
This may be the stupidest suggestion you've heard, but why don't you carbon monoxide it to death? They say that is a peaceful way of dying, and it won't cost you anything. For me personally, i'd fork over the money. I don't ever want to be the one to take life away from a living thing, even if it would be better off dead. Good luck with whatever you decide to do.
This may be the stupidest suggestion you've heard, but why don't you carbon monoxide it to death? They say that is a peaceful way of dying, and it won't cost you anything. For me personally, i'd fork over the money. I don't ever want to be the one to take life away from a living thing, even if it would be better off dead. Good luck with whatever you decide to do.
i think shooting it would be more humane than carbon monoxide......
hold a paper bag fo your face, breathe in and out a few times.
notice that terrible feeling of how you just can't get enough air so you try to breathe harder and harder but it doens't work...
carbon monoxide is a bit like that but it makes you a bit sleepier
hold a paper bag fo your face, breathe in and out a few times.
notice that terrible feeling of how you just can't get enough air so you try to breathe harder and harder but it doens't work...
carbon monoxide is a bit like that but it makes you a bit sleepier
<< So what did you decide to do?
This may be the stupidest suggestion you've heard, but why don't you carbon monoxide it to death? They say that is a peaceful way of dying, and it won't cost you anything. For me personally, i'd fork over the money. I don't ever want to be the one to take life away from a living thing, even if it would be better off dead. Good luck with whatever you decide to do. >>
yep, the old potato in the exhaust trick eh? while you're at it you may as well jump in too because this is one of the most disgusting ideas i've ever heard.
actually no it's not, carbon monoxide causes a sleepy peacefulness, but if the dog is aware of the gas coming in it will panic and go nuts. just shoot it or give it to the dog pound.
<< actually no it's not, carbon monoxide causes a sleepy peacefulness, but if the dog is aware of the gas coming in it will panic and go nuts. just shoot it or give it to the dog pound. >>
i said disgusting, not inhumane, as you might be inferring.
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