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I am feeling old

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IronWing said:
I had to scan through 20k pages of handwritten county records to find this record.
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i've had to read through so much of that stuff for genealogy... probably not 20000 pages though!

usually it's not too bad to read because i wrote cursive till i was in college and my grandma's always written cursive letters to me.

but some guy in a county of NY that i've researched loved to write all his cursive with a 50 degree slant and make the lowercase letters about 1/4 the height of the line. it's harder to read than a doctor's prescription.
 
Pohemi said:
I had a living will written up after my close friend was murdered in 2009. The little bit of belongings that I own are assigned to go to 3 different friends, depending on the items. I checked it over and made some slight revisions in 2019, and if I'm still here in 2029, I might do so again.

It also includes instructions of DNR, DNI, etc. I won't leave medical decisions on my behalf to another person. I wanted those instructions made clear, in a legally binding document.
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Just be aware…have seen living wills get disregarded many, many times in my medical career. Once “that time comes”, family can usually browbeat the MD into more than the patient wanted. And family tends to get their way. And who would disagree at that point…one lone family member that’ll have to attain a lawyer, get it in front of a judge immediately? Rarely happens.

Just the facts. End of life is hard. Have experienced it too many damned times myself.
 
Meghan54 said:
Just be aware…have seen living wills get disregarded many, many times in my medical career. Once “that time comes”, family can usually browbeat the MD into more than the patient wanted. And family tends to get their way. And who would disagree at that point…one lone family member that’ll have to attain a lawyer, get it in front of a judge immediately? Rarely happens.

Just the facts. End of life is hard. Have experienced it too many damned times myself.
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Does it help if/when the living will and EoL documents are on record in your health organization? I've done that so they don't have to be requested from PoA or family. The hospital will already have legally binding instructions in their records (but I'd imagine only if I'm within their network.)

I hear what you're saying, and that's sad that people want to override the subject's own wishes, many times for their own selfish reasons (not wanting to let their family member go, hoping they'll recover when there's little to no chance, etc.)
 
I never thought about age too much until I was almost 50. Now that I am 50 I have to admit, I think about how much life is left on a regular basis. Seems like yesterday I was 21. Seems like yesterday that I had dark brown hair lol. Now its all salt and pepper. I damn near threw my hip out taking my socks off the other night. I've been limping ever since! lol (3 days now). Ahh the joys of growing old.
 
Pohemi said:
Does it help if/when the living will and EoL documents are on record in your health organization? I've done that so they don't have to be requested from PoA or family. The hospital will already have legally binding instructions in their records (but I'd imagine only if I'm within their network.)

I hear what you're saying, and that's sad that people want to override the subject's own wishes, many times for their own selfish reasons (not wanting to let their family member go, hoping they'll recover when there's little to no chance, etc.)
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Dunno. Part depends a lot on the state you happen to live in. A lot of docs were/are afraid of lawsuits…the living can sue, the passed away rarely do.
 
WelshBloke said:
I asked my daughter to write out a shopping list as I went through some recipes and shouted out what I needed. She did that and handed it to me as I headed out of the door to the supermarket.
Got there and it was all in cursive and I didn't have my reading glasses! Would not recommend.
She's 11.
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My Gen Z son was also taught cursive, and hated it about as much as I did 😛

He also has tournaments with his college friends on the old NES version of Tetris, so I won't be surprised if they end up playing classic Doom too.
 
BoomerD said:
Shut the fuck up...youse damned kiddies.

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And get the fuck off my lawn....

The correct term for these people is not millennials, but just snowflakes.
 
WhiteNoise said:
I never thought about age too much until I was almost 50. Now that I am 50 I have to admit, I think about how much life is left on a regular basis. Seems like yesterday I was 21. Seems like yesterday that I had dark brown hair lol. Now its all salt and pepper. I damn near threw my hip out taking my socks off the other night. I've been limping ever since! lol (3 days now). Ahh the joys of growing old.
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i blinked and it's March already?
What did i do in jan or Feb? 😱

need to stop wasting what left of my life with useless web surfing
 
Meghan54 said:
Just be aware…have seen living wills get disregarded many, many times in my medical career. Once “that time comes”, family can usually browbeat the MD into more than the patient wanted. And family tends to get their way. And who would disagree at that point…one lone family member that’ll have to attain a lawyer, get it in front of a judge immediately? Rarely happens.

Just the facts. End of life is hard. Have experienced it too many damned times myself.
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I have found that advanced care planning documents are essentially useless from a practical standpoint. To the point where I rarely spend much time discussing them with patients these days. When push comes to shove, they get largely thrown out the window by patients or their families. I can absolutely understand why. Mortality is... complicated.
 
TheVrolok said:
I have found that advanced care planning documents are essentially useless from a practical standpoint. To the point where I rarely spend much time discussing them with patients these days. When push comes to shove, they get largely thrown out the window by patients or their families. I can absolutely understand why. Mortality is... complicated.
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I've already got my finish planned out: (hopefully from old age, in my sleep!)

1. Donate the used parts to anyone who can recycle them

2. Go to space!

Celestis: Memorial Spaceflights – Send Ashes Into Space

Celestis: Memorial Spaceflights makes the dream of spaceflight a reality by launching a symbolic portion of cremated remains into near-space and even beyond.
www.celestis.com www.celestis.com

I'm constantly amazed at what other people can use. When my wife's grandpa passed away, a gentleman stopped by the house after the funeral to drop off a note. Turns out he had been blind for like 7 years due to a workplace accident. Thanks to her grandpa's body-part donations (eyes), he was able to see again. I don't know if it was a cornea issue or retina issue or what, but I had NO IDEA that that was even possible! Really amazing that a loss could lead to someone else's life-changing experience!
 
Kaido said:
I've already got my finish planned out: (hopefully from old age, in my sleep!)

1. Donate the used parts to anyone who can recycle them

2. Go to space!

Celestis: Memorial Spaceflights – Send Ashes Into Space

Celestis: Memorial Spaceflights makes the dream of spaceflight a reality by launching a symbolic portion of cremated remains into near-space and even beyond.
www.celestis.com www.celestis.com

I'm constantly amazed at what other people can use. When my wife's grandpa passed away, a gentleman stopped by the house after the funeral to drop off a note. Turns out he had been blind for like 7 years due to a workplace accident. Thanks to her grandpa's body-part donations (eyes), he was able to see again. I don't know if it was a cornea issue or retina issue or what, but I had NO IDEA that that was even possible! Really amazing that a loss could lead to someone else's life-changing experience!
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At least the very end life decisions are already taken care of for my wife and myself. I’m ahonorably discharged veteran and as the final benefit the US will ever give us is an essentially free burial…burial plot in a Federal graveyard, although Arlington Natl Cemetary is out despite one set of my grandparents being buried there, a coffin, and a headstone/marker.

Glad no one has to figure all that out after we’ve passed.

My grandfather’s headstone. You can just about see JFK’s memorial from it.

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I signed away my corpse upon death years ago to the UW-Madison medical school. None of my organs will be any good to donate, but I figured medical students can get some value out of my cadaver by education.

Upon notification of my death, the UW medical school will arrange and cover the cost of transport so none of my family or friends will have to concern themselves with costs. They already all understand I do not want a funeral. If they want to have a wake and get drunk in memoriam, more power to 'em.

My only concern and reasoning for the living will is to not end up living only by way of machines, being a vegetable, etc. It's concerning to me to hear that it often won't matter, even as a supposed legally-binding document. I mean...why the fuck did I have a lawyer write it up for me, and get it notarized just so it can be ignored on my death bed? That kinda irks me tbh.
 
Pohemi said:
I signed away my corpse upon death years ago to the UW-Madison medical school. None of my organs will be any good to donate, but I figured medical students can get some value out of my cadaver by education.

Upon notification of my death, the UW medical school will arrange and cover the cost of transport so none of my family or friends will have to concern themselves with costs. They already all understand I do not want a funeral. If they want to have a wake and get drunk in memoriam, more power to 'em.

My only concern and reasoning for the living will is to not end up living only by way of machines, being a vegetable, etc. It's concerning to me to hear that it often won't matter, even as a supposed legally-binding document. I mean...why the fuck did I have a lawyer write it up for me, and get it notarized just so it can be ignored on my death bed? That kinda irks me tbh.
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Because rights essentially do not extend to the dead. You can't rise out of the grave to rebut or detail the abuses. But legal testimony often requires personal knowledge and being sworn under oath. You're never coming back do to anything to the wrongdoer.

That can be useful. My father was bent on giving custody of me and my sister to our half-sister and put in his will, but statue put my mother next in line.
 
Torn Mind said:
Because rights essentially do not extend to the dead. You can't rise out of the grave to rebut or detail the abuses. But legal testimony often requires personal knowledge and being sworn under oath. You're never coming back do to anything to the wrongdoer.

That can be useful. My father was bent on giving custody of me and my sister to our half-sister and put in his will, but statue put my mother next in line.
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Right, but my biggest issue is the DNR, DNI, instructions to not treat certain problems, etc. It's only going to matter if I'm in a coma or otherwise unable to speak for myself...but in that unexpected circumstance, I don't want my wishes on my own care ignored. If I'm terminal, I don't want to be kept alive by machines or drugs that will only keep me in the hospital bed longer before I go.

I don't really give a shit what happens after I'm gone. But I hear you in that if someone in the family and/or hospital staff doesn't follow specific instructions...who will hold them accountable? Probably part of the reason it's so common.
 
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