i am christian

[JulesMaximus]

There are a lot of lunatics in NY. Just ignore them and hopefully they'll go away.

 

[UberNeuman]

He's a multi-tasker...

 

[TruePaige]

Originally posted by: Crono

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: Crono
Following Christ is exclusive of any other religion. You can't follow Christ and worship Allah.

Allah is just a word for god.

It refers to a specific god, the god of the Qu'ran. Just as when I say "God" (denoted here by an upper case "G") I am referring to the God of the Bible. They are not the same.

Name doesn't matter really.

Yahweh is God. God is God. Allah is God. We're all talking to the same person if you believe their is one God.

I highly doubt a just God would send half the world to hell because they never had exposure/were raised in a certain religion. Wouldn't be just.

So these are just three branches of worship, one after another. Some could even call them evolution of the scripture, where different areas have faith that it continued to a certain point and others think it only continued to a different point.

Judaism -> Christianity -> Islam

 

[DaveSimmons]

Originally posted by: Brutus04
Someone passed this one to me long ago...what do you all think? Is it skewed?

Can a good Muslim be a good American? ...

Did you know that dictionary.com has no definition for gullible?

 

[zoiks]

Originally posted by: Crono

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: Crono
Following Christ is exclusive of any other religion. You can't follow Christ and worship Allah.

Allah is just a word for god.

It refers to a specific god, the god of the Qu'ran. Just as when I say "God" (denoted here by an upper case "G") I am referring to the God of the Bible. They are not the same.

They are the same god. The books refer to them differently but they are the same god.
I'm muslim.

 

[Brutus04]

lol...

 

[Brutus04]

Zoiks, I do respect your religion; my friend is also Muslim, he came from Jordon. What do you think of America and it's Christian heritage?

 

[RadiclDreamer]

Originally posted by: Brutus04
Zoiks, I do respect your religion; my friend is also Muslim, he came from Jordon. What do you think of America and it's christian beginings but freedom of religion heritage?

Fixed

 

[GodlessAstronomer]

Originally posted by: Brutus04
Someone passed this one to me long ago...what do you all think? Is it skewed?

Can a good Muslim be a good American?

dumbest words ever

This is one of the most bigoted, misleading and uninformed posts I have ever read, and I make no secrets about my lack of respect for organised religion.

 

[DangerAardvark]

Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer

Originally posted by: Brutus04
Someone passed this one to me long ago...what do you all think? Is it skewed?

Can a good Muslim be a good American?

dumbest words ever

This is one of the most bigoted, misleading and uninformed posts I have ever read, and I make no secrets about my lack of respect for organised religion.

You forgot redundant and poorly written.

 

[Finalnight]

Originally posted by: DangerAardvark

Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer

Originally posted by: Brutus04
Someone passed this one to me long ago...what do you all think? Is it skewed?

Can a good Muslim be a good American?

dumbest words ever

This is one of the most bigoted, misleading and uninformed posts I have ever read, and I make no secrets about my lack of respect for organised religion.

You forgot redundant and poorly written.

Yep, Friends don't let Friends forward stupid emails.

 

[seemingly random]

Originally posted by: puffff
... can you be both christian and muslim at the same time?

You'd end up having to kill yourself to satisfy either or both or any permutation of the two.

 

[seemingly random]

Originally posted by: Brutus04
Someone passed this one to me long ago...what do you all think? Is it skewed?

Can a good Muslim be a good American?

I sent that question to a friend who worked in Saudi Arabia for 20 years. The following is his reply:

Theologically- no because his allegiance is to Allah, the moon god of Arabia.

Religiously- no because no other religion is accepted by his Allah except Islam (Quran, 2:256)

Scripturally- no because his allegiance is to the five pillars of Islam and the Quran (Koran).

Geographically- no because his allegiance is to Mecca, to which he turns in prayer five times a day.

Socially- no because his allegiance to Islam forbids him to make friends with Christians or Jews.

Politically- no because he must submit to the mullah (spiritual leaders), who teach annihilation of Israel and Destruction of America, the great Satan.

Domestically- no because he is instructed to marry four women and beat and scourge his wife when she disobeys him (Quran 4:34).

Intellectually- no because he cannot accept the American Constitution since it is based on Biblical principles and he believes the Bible to be corrupt.

Philosophically- no because Islam, Muhammad, and the Quran do not allow freedom of religion and expression. Democracy and Islam cannot co-exist. Every Muslim government is either dictatorial or autocratic.

Spiritually- no because when we declare "one nation under God," the Christian's God is loving and kind, while Allah is NEVER referred to as heavenly father, nor is he ever called love in The Quran's 99 excellent names.

If you find yourself intellectually in agreement with the above statements, perhaps you will share this with your friends. The more who understand this, the better it will be for our country and our future.

Not sure if you're being sarcastic since this looks like one of those dumbass chain emails. If naive people really believed this, the only recourse for good americans would be to end one muslim a day. How heart-lifting.

 

[Brutus04]

Originally posted by: Brutus04 Zoiks, I do respect your religion; my friend is also Muslim, he came from Jordon. What do you think of America and it's christian beginings but freedom of religion heritage?

I was actually referring to foundation and influence Christianity had on the forming of our history. "The United States of America is not a Christian country or state. The writers of the Constitution said, very wisely, that "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, prohibiting the free exercise thereof." In other words, there will be no state church (such as the Church of England), but the people may worship according to their wishes, anytime and anywhere. A "country" is a geographical area inhabited by a certain people under a particular political government.

However, the United States of America is a Christian nation. A nation is an aggregation of people bound together "by common ideals and a common purpose. A rich inheritance of memories and the desire to preserve those memories ... a nation is a spiritual entity brought into existence by complex historical conditions, by similar traditions and a similar imagination."

 

[TehMac]

Originally posted by: magomago
Well both believe in a person named Jesus who was sent by God. Both believe in the Virgin Mary.

Uhh no. The Virgin Mary was originally a Catholic cult that became more widespread in the Medieval Period, eventually reaching a level of dominance God and Jesus had in the religious psyche.

Protestants did not disavow the importance of the Virgin Mary, but they considered the level of reverence the Medieval Christians/Catholics had for the saints a waste of time.

The Muslims had no such appreciation, ever.

 

[seemingly random]

Originally posted by: Brutus04
... the United States of America is a Christian nation.

Not if being christian means being nice and not always trying to take away the other kids' toys.

A nation is an aggregation of people bound together ...

... by geography, commerce and then the ability to form a defense against marauding neighbors or to attack neighbors in order to take their stuff from them. Some are held together by the hatred of others' superstitious beliefs which are contrary to their own.

 

[sandorski]

Muslims might have a spiritual connection with Mecca/Saudi Arabia, but at least that's on the fuckin planet Earth and not some elusive "Heaven". Score 1 for Islam, hell, score 2: One point for close proximity, plus one point for being a place one could actually find.

 

[Madwand1]

Originally posted by: puffff
then a few seconds later, he switches gears and starts praising islam. now i'm kind of confused. he goes on about how everyone should read both the bible and the koran, and he finishes by claiming to be both christian and muslim. now i dont follow either faiths so i have no idea whether they are mutually exclusive... can you be both christian and muslim at the same time?

Yeah, this guy gets it better than most people. You can't be a [full] Muslim without having faith in Jesus. You might however be able to have faith in Jesus with blindness to everything that followed since, sort of, just because Jesus was before Muhammad and didn't comment on Muhammad whereas Muhammad had the temporal advantage from our perspective.

A somewhat similar temporal relationship holds between Jews and Christians, etc. Too bad though that Muhammad didn't speak specifically about more of his predecessors, as that might have saved some Zoroastrians for example some grief.

 

[zoiks]

Originally posted by: Brutus04
Zoiks, I do respect your religion; my friend is also Muslim, he came from Jordon. What do you think of America and it's Christian heritage?

What kind of question is that. I was born here. What do you think of America?

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: Crono

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: Crono
Following Christ is exclusive of any other religion. You can't follow Christ and worship Allah.

Allah is just a word for god.

It refers to a specific god, the god of the Qu'ran. Just as when I say "God" (denoted here by an upper case "G") I am referring to the God of the Bible. They are not the same.

Muslims worship the same God that Abraham worshiped, that the Jews worship, that Christians worship.

Therefore, Allah=God.

I don't need some council of Nicea to start re-arranging things, then some other protestant faith to branch off from those Christians, move across an ocean, create their own sect and then demonize catholics (the evangelicals), then determine that they have the one true Christian definition (no more than any of the others, at least), and then say that they likewise understand the Qu'ran more than a learned Moslem would.

No sir, that would just make my head explode.

 

[Sea Moose]

watch out for a dude with sticks of dynamite strapped to his chest, being chased by a lion.

 

[gar3555]

Better to have all your bases covered. He is probably follows:

Bábism
Bahá'í Faith
Catholicism
Protestantism
Restorationism
Gnosticism
Islam
Judaism
Rastafari movement
Mandaeans and Sabians
Samaritanism
Unitarian Universalism
Ayyavazhi
Buddhism
Hinduism
Jainism
Sikhism
Confucianism
Shinto
Taoism
Historical polytheism
Hellenistic
Neopaganism
New Age, Esotericism, Mysticism
Left-Hand Path
Magic


the above is just a shortlist of modern religions...

 

[GagHalfrunt]

2 invisible men in the sky > 1 invisible man in the sky

 

[SlitheryDee]

That's like asking "If a person can speak, can they talk at the same time"?

 

[HardcoreRobot]

ok pi