I’m off the Trump Train

[UglyCasanova]

So, you would rather keep the one percent on top rather than get universal healthcare for everyone. Ok...

Tapping the 1% isn’t enough to pay for universal healthcare.

 

[Indus]

Tapping the 1% isn’t enough to pay for universal healthcare.

That perfectly explains why people prefer to have a CABG in India for $6000 instead of $185000 in the USA.

 

[sdifox]

Tapping the 1% isn’t enough to pay for universal healthcare.

Everyone pays for universal healthcare, that is how insurance works. Face it, the countries running universal healthcare do it because it was the only viable economical option. Hell big corps can't wait for it to happen.

 

[Commodus]

Tapping the 1% isn’t enough to pay for universal healthcare.

No, but cutting excess from the military budget (and it's definitely excessive) wouldn't hurt. And I'd rather have a President whose fault is poor budgeting for a genuinely compassionate idea than Trump's "take the money and run" approach. Right now the US is facing both wildly increased deficits and lousy health care.

 

[brycejones]

Tapping the 1% isn’t enough to pay for universal healthcare.

This old canard. Who is seriously suggesting that universal healthcare would only be paid for by the 1%?

 

[dawp]

isn't not getting on the train better than jumping off as it barrels down rails at full speed with no one at it the controls as it heads into Grand central station?

 

[zephyrprime]

Trump's character was painfully obvious from the beginning. That you didn't know this is on you and your willful ignorance. You voted for this.

Absolutely. He has a long record of cheating contractors. Some one who does that is some one who lies and cheats and steals. He's been caught lying in and contractdicting himself on tweets all the time even before elections. What did op expect? He's proven he's a liar. Also, he won't release his tax returns which proves he's a thief too. Etc, etc. So obvious.

 

[zinfamous]

Draft her as your nominee to run again if you think that many people really want to have her be the POTUS.

straw man. I'm addressing your comment directly. Not anything about me.

"....but very few regret NOT getting Hillary ." That is your comment. Please explain to me how that squares with objective reality and the very same universal math that all of us subscribe to in order to make sense of the world.

 

[zinfamous]

Thank you Amused, I’ve skimmed through that and will read in more detail later. Much of that seems to pertain to transgenders though which is a different thing altogether so not indicative of a push against gay rights.

Why do you keep doing this? You are creating a distinction that no one accepts from a legal perspective, only to provide a platform that you can argue against, and further create "controversy" that doesn't exist in these distinctions that you have invented.

 

[Sunburn74]

Tapping the 1% isn’t enough to pay for universal healthcare.

Tapping the 1% along with a number of regulatory steps already implemented in other countries will easily be more than enough. Of course, pharma won't take it lying down. The problem with US healthcare is a cost issue. The cost of stuff is very very high particularly in comparison to other countries. The same pill can be 1000 for 6 months in egypt and 70,000 for 6 months in the US. Same pill.

 

[glenn1]

straw man. I'm addressing your comment directly. Not anything about me.

"....but very few regret NOT getting Hillary ." That is your comment. Please explain to me how that squares with objective reality and the very same universal math that all of us subscribe to in order to make sense of the world.

See below. Just as with the Trump diehards you had like 20% who really liked her an overwhelming majority of the electorate in 2016 really, really disliked both top choices. I'm guessing any other candidate in the past 30 years whether successful or not would have beaten either Trump or Clinton including blowout election losers like Dukakis, Mondale, and Dole.

Nearly six in 10 Americans said they either "dislike" or "hate" Clinton

Gallup: Hillary Clinton's favorability rating hits new low

More than a year after the 2016 presidential election, former Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton's favorability rating has dropped to a new low, according to a Gallup poll released Tuesday.

www.cnn.com

What really happened in 2016, in 7 charts

Okay, some of them are tables.

www.vox.com

Hate? Here's How Unpopular Clinton and Trump Are

Nearly six in 10 Americans said they either "dislike" or "hate" Clinton, while slightly more — 63 percent — expressed negative opinions about Trump.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[Jaskalas]

Tapping the 1% isn’t enough to pay for universal healthcare.

That's true. It'll take many reforms for cost reduction, plus somewhere around 15% of our combined personal income. (I'd throw $2 trillion/yr at it).

 

[zinfamous]

I’m sorry but I’m not going to pretend that it’s not so that they can feel good about themselves. I don’t go out of my way to shame them and I certainly treat any trans person I come across which admittedly is few and far between with the same respect I’d treat anybody else but it is what it is. I don’t shame bipolar people for instance either but that’s different than me pretending that it’s not a mental disorder.

When you "other" people, you create the platform by which to discriminate. It has always worked this way in human societies. It is a common, universal technique. Nothing you say to defend your views is novel. You aren't unique and you aren't nobly defending a principle or platform that hasn't already been universally squashed by millenia of bloody insurrections, wars, genocides, local fears leading to witch burnings and what not. What you "believe" about this thing, wholly devoid of scientific or social supported data or facts at all, is exactly dangerous and anathema to modern human society.

It just is. This is why you get pushback. You think you are profound, but you aren't. Your unfounded personal beliefs have a long history of strong rejection as society progresses.

How many times has it been said on here forums conservatism was a mental disease, that’s shaming them for what they feel on the inside but I doubt many take issue with that.

But that's just science. Don't blame the messengers. Rather, consult yourself and ask why you, instead, harbor beliefs that are fundamentally not supported by science.

 

[zinfamous]

See below. Just as with the Trump diehards you had like 20% who really liked her an overwhelming majority of the electorate in 2016 really, really disliked both top choices. I'm guessing any other candidate in the past 30 years whether successful or not would have beaten either Trump or Clinton including blowout election losers like Dukakis, Mondale, and Dole.

Gallup: Hillary Clinton's favorability rating hits new low

More than a year after the 2016 presidential election, former Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton's favorability rating has dropped to a new low, according to a Gallup poll released Tuesday.

www.cnn.com

What really happened in 2016, in 7 charts

Okay, some of them are tables.

www.vox.com

Hate? Here's How Unpopular Clinton and Trump Are

Nearly six in 10 Americans said they either "dislike" or "hate" Clinton, while slightly more — 63 percent — expressed negative opinions about Trump.

www.nbcnews.com

SO, back to 2016 polling.

Do you think your comment "very few would want Hillary now"--I'm PARAPHRASING, people, hold off your dogs--still stands? I find this claim extremely dubious.

 

[nakedfrog]

I’m sorry but I’m not going to pretend that it’s not so that they can feel good about themselves. I don’t go out of my way to shame them and I certainly treat any trans person I come across which admittedly is few and far between with the same respect I’d treat anybody else but it is what it is. I don’t shame bipolar people for instance either but that’s different than me pretending that it’s not a mental disorder.

How many times has it been said on here forums conservatism was a mental disease, that’s shaming them for what they feel on the inside but I doubt many take issue with that.

I guess that's why you're known as "the guy who always posts news articles about transgender stuff".

 

[glenn1]

SO, back to 2016 polling.

Do you think your comment "very few would want Hillary now"--I'm PARAPHRASING, people, hold off your dogs--still stands? I find this claim extremely dubious.

LOL how would you find it dubious? Do you incorrectly think she's had some popularity surge? People would very happily ditch Trump but there's no clamor for Hillary to be the replacement. If Obama could be then sure but sure as hell they aren't pining away for Hillary.

 

[zinfamous]

Tapping the 1% isn’t enough to pay for universal healthcare.

We can already afford it. We just spend it on pointless and stupid shit.

 

[zinfamous]

LOL how would you find it dubious? Do you incorrectly think she's had some popularity surge? People would very happily ditch Trump but there's no clamor for Hillary to be the replacement. If Obama could be then sure but sure as hell they aren't pining away for Hillary.

ah, so it perfectly tracks opinion movements during the months and years when Pubs engaged in their strongest anti-Hillary disinformation attack goon squads. --lol, how was this poll conducted, because it is specifically tied to that. What I read from this is: "Yes, republicans really hated her when republicans were ramping up massive campaigns to discredit her specifically for healthcare, her senate run, and of course Bengazi."

 

[jackstar7]

Intellectual is a dirty word to some. Look at the dividends paid out by that sentiment, and to whom.