CADsortaGUY
Lifer
That was the original misinformation that was reported...way back when he returned to the air. Gaard's link is about the statement that Rush's attorney made and the hubbub around it all.
BTW, DM - Rush did take responsibility for his actions and admitted his addiction and has sought treatment.
Gaard - no his pain hasn't gone away. They switched his med treatment during his stay at the treatment center. I don't remember the exact med, but it is a non-chemically addictive "non-euphoric" type drug. He may still have to face surgery if he decides that the current meds aren't managing his pain well. Now the reason he didn't have surgery before was because they have to go in through the throat and push aside his vocal tissues. Obviously that comes with some risk to his speaking ability - hence his previous choice to forgo surgery. FYI - that is his statements on it anyway
CkG
Rush's pain was the absence of his *rush* . . . Despite his poor excuse for contrition I'm responsible for my actions but it was those damn doctors that couldn't cure my pain plus they gave me these bad drugs that made me do bad things Rush has made little effort to come clean with authorities about his activities. How do I know? Hmm, lemme see . . . they just executed warrants!
He took responsibility right after the story broke and everyone learned of his drug addiction. But sure, spin it like he's taken the high road and come out with this information himself. Gotcha. He got caught with his hand in the pill jar, Cad.
I'm usually not this mean but this has to be Rush karma . . . anybody have Limbaugh's email . . .
i thought he did when he voluntarily announced his addiction on live radio and then checked himeself into rehab.
CADsortaGUY
Lifer
That isn't good enough for DM. He doesn't think it is considered "taking responsibility" if you do it after it becomes news.
Anyway - there are going to be people here who will milk this story for all they can. Rush is a Radio personallity - not a politician. If he was a politician - we might have an issue but Rush isn't running for office anywhere....not that you'd know it by listening to Dean(he makes a point of mentioning Rush everytime he can
)It's best not to worry about it Genesys - they aren't going to let this drop because they think this somehow hurts the credibility of Conservatives.
CkG
Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
That isn't good enough for DM. He doesn't think it is considered "taking responsibility" if you do it after it becomes news.
Anyway - there are going to be people here who will milk this story for all they can. Rush is a Radio personallity - not a politician. If he was a politician - we might have an issue but Rush isn't running for office anywhere....not that you'd know it by listening to Dean(he makes a point of mentioning Rush everytime he can
It's best not to worry about it Genesys - they aren't going to let this drop because they think this somehow hurts the credibility of Conservatives.
CkG
Dean mentions Rush everytime because he knows the sheep are so easily brainwashed by the proganda garbage that both Rush and Hannity spew everyday.
They're as bad as the subliminal fraction of a second frames inserted into movies to get you to rush the Concession Counter during Intermisssion.
CADsortaGUY
Lifer
And your explanation shows why he says it - how?
"This democracy and the flag of the United States do not belong to Rush Limbaugh..." - Howard Dean
"...the country doesn?t belong to John Ashcroft, Dick Cheney, and Rush Limbaugh." - Howard Dean
hehe - and this one is one of the funnier ones (picture this)
"I want my country back, and so do you, and we?re going to take it back. And when we take it back, this time we?re not going to give it up again, because we?re never going to let the Rush Limbaughs and the fundamentalist preachers, we?re never going to let them take over this country again. We?re going to speak up for ourselves this time. I want my country back, we want our country back.." - Howard Dean
Someone a little pissed that they don't have any power anymore? Maybe they haven't yet realized that they aren't mainstream enough. Maybe they haven't figured out that our country is by far more conservative than they think it is or should be.
It's fun to see Dean invoke the name of Rush to rile his base, but it doesn't mean much to those outside the core dems because normal people realize that Rush never "took away" anything in the first place
Keep it up though Dean
It is ever so entertainingCkG
No, no I don't. You know what I call it? DAMAGE CONTROL. If, and I say "IF" because it never happened, Rush had come out ahead of the story and vetted his drug addiction, perhaps he would be due some respect in this matter. But please, don't let me get in the way of your pathetic excuses...Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
That isn't good enough for DM. He doesn't think it is considered "taking responsibility" if you do it after it becomes news.
Anyway - there are going to be people here who will milk this story for all they can. Rush is a Radio personallity - not a politician. If he was a politician - we might have an issue but Rush isn't running for office anywhere....not that you'd know it by listening to Dean(he makes a point of mentioning Rush everytime he can
It's best not to worry about it Genesys - they aren't going to let this drop because they think this somehow hurts the credibility of Conservatives.
CkG
CADsortaGUY
Lifer
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
No, no I don't. You know what I call it? DAMAGE CONTROL. If, and I say "IF" because it never happened, Rush had come out ahead of the story and vetted his drug addiction, perhaps he would be due some respect in this matter. But please, don't let me get in the way of your pathetic excuses...Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
That isn't good enough for DM. He doesn't think it is considered "taking responsibility" if you do it after it becomes news.
Anyway - there are going to be people here who will milk this story for all they can. Rush is a Radio personallity - not a politician. If he was a politician - we might have an issue but Rush isn't running for office anywhere....not that you'd know it by listening to Dean(he makes a point of mentioning Rush everytime he can
It's best not to worry about it Genesys - they aren't going to let this drop because they think this somehow hurts the credibility of Conservatives.
CkG
I didn't say anything about "respect" - I said he was taking responsibility for his problem. Meaning - he says that his addiction was entirely his fault and that he CHOSE to take the pills. Admitting that, IS taking responsibility for his problem.
But yeah, don't let his admission of chosing to take them get in the way of your hatred of him or what he says.
CkG
Well duh! Whose fault would it be other than his? Coming out and stating the obvious doesn't mean anything. Look Cad, I'm sorry your idol is a complete hypocrite and is being investigated for doctor shopping, money laundering, etc. to support his insidious drug habit, however Rush brought this situation on himself -- don't take it out on me. Like I've said on many occasions, I don't hate anyone. I don't agree with him on numerous levels, of course, but that doesn't mean I hate him.
CADsortaGUY
Lifer
Wouldn't have anything to do with misinformed attacks though right?
DM - You seem to misunderstand what "taking responsibility" is. His admission and actions to correct his "problem" is exactly what "taking responsibility" is. He admitted the problem and took corrective action. You can bleat on and on about hypocracy or some percied illegalities but those are far from being proven. The one thing that has been addressed though is his personal drug addiction - for which he took responsibility for. The rest is speculation ATM.
CkG
CADsortaGUY
Lifer
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
OMG! Now, that's a scary sight! Yikes. :Q
Oh, there are more out there too
This one is one of the worst though The man sure does know how to display his emotions via his face.CkG
Red Dawn
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Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Wouldn't have anything to do with misinformed attacks though right?
DM - You seem to misunderstand what "taking responsibility" is. His admission and actions to correct his "problem" is exactly what "taking responsibility" is. He admitted the problem and took corrective action. You can bleat on and on about hypocracy or some percied illegalities but those are far from being proven. The one thing that has been addressed though is his personal drug addiction - for which he took responsibility for. The rest is speculation ATM.
CkG
So it's ok for Ruxh to do it to others but it's not ok for others to do it to him???
CADsortaGUY
Lifer
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Wouldn't have anything to do with misinformed attacks though right?
DM - You seem to misunderstand what "taking responsibility" is. His admission and actions to correct his "problem" is exactly what "taking responsibility" is. He admitted the problem and took corrective action. You can bleat on and on about hypocracy or some percied illegalities but those are far from being proven. The one thing that has been addressed though is his personal drug addiction - for which he took responsibility for. The rest is speculation ATM.
CkG
So it's ok for Ruxh to do it to others but it's not ok for others to do it to him???
Didn't say it wasn't, but I think(know) some people have it out for Rush. I just have a problem with people spreading misinformation - like for instance the basis of this thread was misinformation, not to mention alot of the contents of this thread
CkG
Accused: Your Honor, I know I could fight these charges and possibly get off . . . but I must admit . . . the drugs are mine. My drug problem has been going on for years. I tried to stop several times but always failed to keep clean. But now I'm ready to take responsibility for my actions.
Judge: Son, I'm glad you can admit to buying and conspiring to buy drugs . . . as well as actively seeking/deceiving doctors into giving you prescriptions for drugs . . . but it doesn't take any courage to admit you've done wrong when everybody KNOWS you've done wrong. You didn't rob or kill anyone to pay for your habit but you still financed the illegal trade in prescription drugs. The lowlifes that practice such activity are scarcely any better than dope dealers. And it's people like you that enable the practice to continue.
Accused: You are absolutely right, Your Honor. And I pledge to spend the rest of my life telling others about the pitfalls of drug abuse . . .
Judge: . . . after you spend 18 months in jail.
Accused: But, but, but . . . I'm reformed. I see the light. I'm taking responsibility for my actions!
Judge: Good, after you pay your debt to society . . . you may return to society as responsible member of the community. There must be a penalty for breaking the law . . . if not people will break them with impunity.
Red Dawn
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That's ok, it couldn't of happened to a more deserving individual.Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Wouldn't have anything to do with misinformed attacks though right?
DM - You seem to misunderstand what "taking responsibility" is. His admission and actions to correct his "problem" is exactly what "taking responsibility" is. He admitted the problem and took corrective action. You can bleat on and on about hypocracy or some percied illegalities but those are far from being proven. The one thing that has been addressed though is his personal drug addiction - for which he took responsibility for. The rest is speculation ATM.
CkG
So it's ok for Ruxh to do it to others but it's not ok for others to do it to him???
Didn't say it wasn't, but I think(know) some people have it out for Rush. I just have a problem with people spreading misinformation - like for instance the basis of this thread was misinformation, not to mention alot of the contents of this thread
CkG
Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Wouldn't have anything to do with misinformed attacks though right?
DM - You seem to misunderstand what "taking responsibility" is. His admission and actions to correct his "problem" is exactly what "taking responsibility" is. He admitted the problem and took corrective action. You can bleat on and on about hypocracy or some percied illegalities but those are far from being proven. The one thing that has been addressed though is his personal drug addiction - for which he took responsibility for. The rest is speculation ATM.
CkG
Cad, you need to re-read my posts. I never said that Rush didn't take personal responsibility. You might have misinterpreted my post where I was mentioning that it's not the media's fault that this story cropped up. IOW, don't blame the media, blame Rush.
In any event, I even gave Rush credit for taking responsibility. However, you're missing my point, which is: Rush only took responsibility AFTER the story broke and he was more or less forced to do so in light of his serious drug problem becoming public. There's a difference between that and (hypothetically) Rush coming out ahead of a major media story and admitting that he has a problem. See the difference? After the fact it's DAMAGE CONTROL, before the fact it's stepping up to the plate and admitting you have a problem without being FORCED to do so.
Sure, Rush could have denied he had a problem. He didn't, so he gets points for that, however if you don't see the difference between my two scenarios, then you're mind is hopelessly clouded by dittomania.
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He was so busted that he couldn't deny it!Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Wouldn't have anything to do with misinformed attacks though right?
DM - You seem to misunderstand what "taking responsibility" is. His admission and actions to correct his "problem" is exactly what "taking responsibility" is. He admitted the problem and took corrective action. You can bleat on and on about hypocracy or some percied illegalities but those are far from being proven. The one thing that has been addressed though is his personal drug addiction - for which he took responsibility for. The rest is speculation ATM.
CkG
Cad, you need to re-read my posts. I never said that Rush didn't take personal responsibility. You might have misinterpreted my post where I was mentioning that it's not the media's fault that this story cropped up. IOW, don't blame the media, blame Rush.
In any event, I even gave Rush credit for taking responsibility. However, you're missing my point, which is: Rush only took responsibility AFTER the story broke and he was more or less forced to do so in light of his serious drug problem becoming public. There's a difference between that and (hypothetically) Rush coming out ahead of a major media story and admitting that he has a problem. See the difference? After the fact it's DAMAGE CONTROL, before the fact it's stepping up to the plate and admitting you have a problem without being FORCED to do so.
Sure, Rush could have denied he had a problem. He didn't, so he gets points for that, however if you don't see the difference between my two scenarios, then you're mind is hopelessly clouded by dittomania.
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