Hygiene Dispute Sparks Bar Brawl

[Pepsei]

Originally posted by: JackBurton

Originally posted by: irishScott
I think 20/20 did a study that showed the largest concentration of bacteria in a public restroom is on the faucet controls, paper towel dispenser handles, door handles/knobs, and then the air. So NOT washing your hands (and thus not touching more of said objects then necessary) might actually be cleaner.

In any case, urine is sterile unless you have a bladder infection or certain STDs.

I don't touch the paper towel dispenser and use a paper towel to turn off the faucet and open the door.

how do you get the paper towel without touching the paper towel dispenser? those automatic dispenser are still rare.. and i'm glad we have them at work....

what happen when you are in a public restroom with only the 'hot air dryer'?

i do believe everything in the restroom is dirtier than my penis...

 

[iamaelephant]

I can't believe there is even an argument here - wash your friggen hands you disgusting slobs! This thread is just putrid, I can't believe there are 'civilised' people out there who aren't washing their hands after pissing. As for contaminated faucets etc, it's irrelevant in the vast majority of public toilets I visit. Most bars have the spring loaded faucet, so you only touch that before washing. The paper towel dispenser has towels that hang down so the only contact you have is the next available paper towel, and the doors open outwards so you can just push through the door with your back.

You people make me fvcking sick.

 

[Howard]

Originally posted by: Pepsei

Originally posted by: JackBurton

Originally posted by: irishScott
I think 20/20 did a study that showed the largest concentration of bacteria in a public restroom is on the faucet controls, paper towel dispenser handles, door handles/knobs, and then the air. So NOT washing your hands (and thus not touching more of said objects then necessary) might actually be cleaner.

In any case, urine is sterile unless you have a bladder infection or certain STDs.

I don't touch the paper towel dispenser and use a paper towel to turn off the faucet and open the door.

how do you get the paper towel without touching the paper towel dispenser?

Well, in his defense, you can operate those sliding tabs with the forearm, elbow, whatever.

 

[SlitheryDee]

<Don King> I wash my hands before I touch my d!ck. </Don King>

 

[JackBurton]

Originally posted by: iamaelephant
I can't believe there is even an argument here - wash your friggen hands you disgusting slobs! This thread is just putrid, I can't believe there are 'civilised' people out there who aren't washing their hands after pissing. As for contaminated faucets etc, it's irrelevant in the vast majority of public toilets I visit. Most bars have the spring loaded faucet, so you only touch that before washing. The paper towel dispenser has towels that hang down so the only contact you have is the next available paper towel, and the doors open outwards so you can just push through the door with your back.

You people make me fvcking sick.

Well that makes a BIG 4 people in this thread that wash their hands. Pretty sad. I thought this was basic hygiene 101, but apparently not.

 

[Pepsei]

Originally posted by: JackBurton

Originally posted by: iamaelephant
I can't believe there is even an argument here - wash your friggen hands you disgusting slobs! This thread is just putrid, I can't believe there are 'civilised' people out there who aren't washing their hands after pissing. As for contaminated faucets etc, it's irrelevant in the vast majority of public toilets I visit. Most bars have the spring loaded faucet, so you only touch that before washing. The paper towel dispenser has towels that hang down so the only contact you have is the next available paper towel, and the doors open outwards so you can just push through the door with your back.

You people make me fvcking sick.

Well that makes a BIG 4 people in this thread that wash their hands. Pretty sad. I thought this was basic hygiene 101, but apparently not.

dude, i wash my hands, but i still don't see why there is even an argument here that won't affect you.

ask long as you wash yours, and don't shake strangers' hands... why should you care if other people don't?

you will only be disgusted if you know. be glad you don't, or else you would stop eating out.

 

[JackBurton]

Originally posted by: Pepsei

Originally posted by: JackBurton

Originally posted by: iamaelephant
I can't believe there is even an argument here - wash your friggen hands you disgusting slobs! This thread is just putrid, I can't believe there are 'civilised' people out there who aren't washing their hands after pissing. As for contaminated faucets etc, it's irrelevant in the vast majority of public toilets I visit. Most bars have the spring loaded faucet, so you only touch that before washing. The paper towel dispenser has towels that hang down so the only contact you have is the next available paper towel, and the doors open outwards so you can just push through the door with your back.

You people make me fvcking sick.

Well that makes a BIG 4 people in this thread that wash their hands. Pretty sad. I thought this was basic hygiene 101, but apparently not.

dude, i wash my hands, but i still don't see why there is even an argument here that won't affect you.

ask long as you wash yours, and don't shake strangers' hands... why should you care if other people don't?

you will only be disgusted if you know. be glad you don't, or else you would stop eating out.

It does affect me, because these nasty fvckers are the ones coming up to me and shaking my hand. If I lived in a hole and didn't have to come in contact with people every day, people like Howard could play in sh!t all day long and I wouldn't care. Unfortunately, people that think like Howard are the ones making my food, shaking my hand, and contaminating door handles I have to touch to walk in a building. It's just nasty, and I can't understand why someone can't do something as basic as washing their hands EVERY TIME they use the restroom.

Ignorance is bliss. That is why I can eat out. I once saw a guy handle money and then go right into making a pizza. And let me tell you, that was the last time I ate there.

 

[Howard]

Originally posted by: JackBurton

Originally posted by: Pepsei

Originally posted by: JackBurton

Originally posted by: iamaelephant
I can't believe there is even an argument here - wash your friggen hands you disgusting slobs! This thread is just putrid, I can't believe there are 'civilised' people out there who aren't washing their hands after pissing. As for contaminated faucets etc, it's irrelevant in the vast majority of public toilets I visit. Most bars have the spring loaded faucet, so you only touch that before washing. The paper towel dispenser has towels that hang down so the only contact you have is the next available paper towel, and the doors open outwards so you can just push through the door with your back.

You people make me fvcking sick.

Well that makes a BIG 4 people in this thread that wash their hands. Pretty sad. I thought this was basic hygiene 101, but apparently not.

dude, i wash my hands, but i still don't see why there is even an argument here that won't affect you.

ask long as you wash yours, and don't shake strangers' hands... why should you care if other people don't?

you will only be disgusted if you know. be glad you don't, or else you would stop eating out.

It does affect me, because these nasty fvckers are the ones coming up to me and shaking my hand. If I lived in a hole and didn't have to come in contact with people every day, people like Howard could play in sh!t all day long and I wouldn't care. Unfortunately, people that think like Howard are the ones making my food, shaking my hand, and contaminating door handles

Contaminating door handles with what?

 

[JackBurton]

Originally posted by: Howard
Contaminating door handles with what?

Listen, apparently soap and water are very painful to apply on your hands and you want to avoid doing it as much as possible, but seriously, quit being nasty and wash your hands. It's disgusting.

If you still need an answer to your question, please refer to irishScott's post. Maybe you can ask the person that conducted the 20/20 investigation what it's contaminated with.

 

[JasonCoder]

Originally posted by: JackBurton

Originally posted by: iamaelephant
I can't believe there is even an argument here - wash your friggen hands you disgusting slobs! This thread is just putrid, I can't believe there are 'civilised' people out there who aren't washing their hands after pissing. As for contaminated faucets etc, it's irrelevant in the vast majority of public toilets I visit. Most bars have the spring loaded faucet, so you only touch that before washing. The paper towel dispenser has towels that hang down so the only contact you have is the next available paper towel, and the doors open outwards so you can just push through the door with your back.

You people make me fvcking sick.

Well that makes a BIG 4 people in this thread that wash their hands. Pretty sad. I thought this was basic hygiene 101, but apparently not.

I wash, I'm a foot flusher, and if the frickin bathroom is one of the pull the door to leave sumb!tches then I use a towel on that. I get some odd looks but I could give a fvck. At least my hand doesn't have some other guy's piss/sh!t on it. And now that I'm thinking the previous guy might have finger banged suzy rottencrotch prior to using the sh!tter I feel even better about it.

Thank you all for this lovely discussion of hygiene.

 

[hiredgoons]

Originally posted by: JasonCoder
I wash, I'm a foot flusher, and if the frickin bathroom is one of the pull the door to leave sumb!tches then I use a towel on that.

QFT

I don't touch anything in the bathroom after I wash my hands. Most paper towel dispensers are designed so all you have to touch are the towels, and if the door opens in I use a paper towel or the sleeve of my sweatshirt.

 

[Howard]

Originally posted by: JackBurton

Originally posted by: Howard
Contaminating door handles with what?

Listen, apparently soap and water are very painful to apply on your hands and you want to avoid doing it as much as possible, but seriously, quit being nasty and wash your hands. It's disgusting.

If you still need an answer to your question, please refer to irishScott's post. Maybe you can ask the person that conducted the 20/20 investigation what it's contaminated with.

Why can't you answer a simple question?

 

[JackBurton]

Originally posted by: Howard

Originally posted by: JackBurton

Originally posted by: Howard
Contaminating door handles with what?

Listen, apparently soap and water are very painful to apply on your hands and you want to avoid doing it as much as possible, but seriously, quit being nasty and wash your hands. It's disgusting.

If you still need an answer to your question, please refer to irishScott's post. Maybe you can ask the person that conducted the 20/20 investigation what it's contaminated with.

Why can't you answer a simple question?

Why can't you be a good boy and wash your hands?

 

[Kelemvor]

Since I started working in a hospital, I always wash my hands now unless I'm at home with my own germs. You never know how dirty the people are the use the bathroom. Even just touching the door, the faucet, the flush handle, etc is enough to get great germs on you.

I wash my hands, use paper towel to dry them, use the same paper towel to turn off the sink handle, use the same paper towel to open the door (unless it's a push door), then throw the paper towel away.

And for those that don't, do you really want penis germs from everyone else all over your own hands? If no guys washed their hands when they went pee, there'd be germs everywhere. I'm not worried about my own germs, I'm worried about the other people since you never know where anyone has been.

 

[Howard]

Originally posted by: JackBurton

Originally posted by: Howard

Originally posted by: JackBurton

Originally posted by: Howard
Contaminating door handles with what?

Listen, apparently soap and water are very painful to apply on your hands and you want to avoid doing it as much as possible, but seriously, quit being nasty and wash your hands. It's disgusting.

If you still need an answer to your question, please refer to irishScott's post. Maybe you can ask the person that conducted the 20/20 investigation what it's contaminated with.

Why can't you answer a simple question?

Why can't you be a good boy and wash your hands?

Why are you responding to a question with a question?

 

[JackBurton]

Originally posted by: Howard

Originally posted by: JackBurton

Originally posted by: Howard

Originally posted by: JackBurton

Originally posted by: Howard
Contaminating door handles with what?

Listen, apparently soap and water are very painful to apply on your hands and you want to avoid doing it as much as possible, but seriously, quit being nasty and wash your hands. It's disgusting.

If you still need an answer to your question, please refer to irishScott's post. Maybe you can ask the person that conducted the 20/20 investigation what it's contaminated with.

Why can't you answer a simple question?

Why can't you be a good boy and wash your hands?

Why are you responding to a question with a question?

Because I don't feel like wasting anymore time with you? You obviously don't want to wash your hands, so what's the point? If you can't understand why not washing your hands is nasty by now, there's no sense in me discussing this any further with you. You just keep being nasty, and I'll keep washing me hands, ok?

Seriously, I can't believe I'm arguing about this with someone who seems to be older than 10 yrs old.

 

[Jeff7]

Aw man, I've heard about this place. I hear that if you don't use a coaster, they beat you senseless with a bar stool, then rip out your tongue and dip it in rubbing alcohol so they can clean up the blood.

 

[Howard]

Originally posted by: JackBurton

Originally posted by: Howard
Why do you think I have no problem with jacking off and going out and shaking "everyone's" hands? If you read my posts carefully, you will see that I do not make any such statements.

See here:

Washing your hands after you jerk off makes your hands OK for shaking, isn't that right? What difference will washing your hands make?

Since you have to ask, apparently it's all the same to you.

??? Don't assume, it makes you an asshole.

Originally posted by: JackBurton

Originally posted by: Howard
The difference between urine and feces is that urine is sterile while feces is not.

And are you also saying that it's ok to walk out of the restroom without washing your hands when you get urine on them because urine is "sterile?"

Depends on your definition of OK. I personally would wash my hands, mostly because it doesn't feel good on the skin. If it was just a drop or two, I would probably wipe it on my pants.

Now you're probably thinking "ah ha, I was right, he doesn't wash his hands after urination". Sometimes I do and sometimes I don't. Mostly I wash my hands before I piss because I don't want crap on my dick.

 

[Howard]

Originally posted by: JackBurton

Originally posted by: Howard

Originally posted by: JackBurton

Originally posted by: Howard

Originally posted by: JackBurton

Originally posted by: Howard
Contaminating door handles with what?

Listen, apparently soap and water are very painful to apply on your hands and you want to avoid doing it as much as possible, but seriously, quit being nasty and wash your hands. It's disgusting.

If you still need an answer to your question, please refer to irishScott's post. Maybe you can ask the person that conducted the 20/20 investigation what it's contaminated with.

Why can't you answer a simple question?

Why can't you be a good boy and wash your hands?

Why are you responding to a question with a question?

Because I don't feel like wasting anymore time with you? You obviously don't want to wash your hands, so what's the point? If you can't understand why not washing your hands is nasty by now, there's no sense in me discussing this any further with you. You just keep being nasty, and I'll keep washing me hands, ok?

Seriously, I can't believe I'm arguing about this with someone who seems to be older than 10 yrs old.

No, it's not that you don't feel like wasting any more time, it's that you don't have an answer.

Have you backed up any of your arguments with facts?

1) You claim that it is non-hygienic to not wash one's hands after urination.

It's only non-hygienic if harmful bacteria/viruses are on your penis, assuming you touch nothing else inside the washroom. We don't know for sure if there are, but if there are, wouldn't you catch whatever it is? I mean, it's a penis, right? May as well dunk it in isopropyl alcohol and then throw on a condom.

I was going to make a numbered list of your arguments, but this is the only real one I could find. The others sound more like:

2) You don't wash your hands? Didn't your momma teach you basic hygiene?
3) Well, if you think not washing your hands after pissing is alright, may as well not wash after you take a sh1t, too

This one cannot be considered a real argument as it is based on a logical fallacy, FYI.

4) You're freaking nasty
5) I'd like to hang a sign up in the office... We'll see how many people want to shake your hand. (Ed: I'd point out the fallacy but I don't even see the point of the statement)
6) Listen, apparently soap and water are very painful to apply on your hands and you want to avoid doing it as much as possible, but seriously, quit being nasty and wash your hands. It's disgusting.

All emotion, no logic. I like how you said soap and water were painful to me; that was a nice touch.

I realized a long time ago that intelligent debate on this board was impossible, but I hoped this time would be different. Nope, just ended up with a guy who doesn't think and patronizes me like there's no tomorrow.

 

[her209]

It is my conclusion from this discussion that I propose we men switch to greeting each other with our penises.

 

[JackBurton]

Originally posted by: Howard

Originally posted by: JackBurton

Originally posted by: Howard

Originally posted by: JackBurton

Originally posted by: Howard

Originally posted by: JackBurton

Originally posted by: Howard
Contaminating door handles with what?

Listen, apparently soap and water are very painful to apply on your hands and you want to avoid doing it as much as possible, but seriously, quit being nasty and wash your hands. It's disgusting.

If you still need an answer to your question, please refer to irishScott's post. Maybe you can ask the person that conducted the 20/20 investigation what it's contaminated with.

Why can't you answer a simple question?

Why can't you be a good boy and wash your hands?

Why are you responding to a question with a question?

Because I don't feel like wasting anymore time with you? You obviously don't want to wash your hands, so what's the point? If you can't understand why not washing your hands is nasty by now, there's no sense in me discussing this any further with you. You just keep being nasty, and I'll keep washing me hands, ok?

Seriously, I can't believe I'm arguing about this with someone who seems to be older than 10 yrs old.

No, it's not that you don't feel like wasting any more time, it's that you don't have an answer.

Have you backed up any of your arguments with facts?

1) You claim that it is non-hygienic to not wash one's hands after urination.

It's only non-hygienic if harmful bacteria/viruses are on your penis, assuming you touch nothing else inside the washroom. We don't know for sure if there are, but if there are, wouldn't you catch whatever it is? I mean, it's a penis, right? May as well dunk it in isopropyl alcohol and then throw on a condom.

I was going to make a numbered list of your arguments, but this is the only real one I could find. The others sound more like:

2) You don't wash your hands? Didn't your momma teach you basic hygiene?
3) Well, if you think not washing your hands after pissing is alright, may as well not wash after you take a sh1t, too

This one cannot be considered a real argument as it is based on a logical fallacy, FYI.

4) You're freaking nasty
5) I'd like to hang a sign up in the office... We'll see how many people want to shake your hand. (Ed: I'd point out the fallacy but I don't even see the point of the statement)
6) Listen, apparently soap and water are very painful to apply on your hands and you want to avoid doing it as much as possible, but seriously, quit being nasty and wash your hands. It's disgusting.

All emotion, no logic. I like how you said soap and water were painful to me; that was a nice touch.

I realized a long time ago that intelligent debate on this board was impossible, but I hoped this time would be different. Nope, just ended up with a guy who doesn't think and patronizes me like there's no tomorrow.

Dude, I told you I was done with you. Do what you will, think what you want, I'm done. You can urinate on yourself and run out of the restroom with your penis in your hand for all I care. I'm sure your far from me, so I won't have to deal with you. So I'm fine.

 

[Howard]

Some day you'll realize the benefits of information exchange.

 

[JackBurton]

Originally posted by: Howard
Some day you'll realize the benefits of information exchange.

Sounds good. Some day you'll wash your hands.

 

[EGGO]

I wonder if those that think that washing your hands are more sanitary than the dick (which doesn't have sweat glands at least on the glans penis, while the palm of your hands do, SVT Cobra) think that the toilet seat is the least sanitary object in the household.

[edit] And after seeing how JackBurton responds to some of the posts here, I'm not all that surprised to see that a fight broke out in the bar. I just hope that guy washed his hands after the beating since his victim was "unsanitary".

 

[Howard]

Originally posted by: JackBurton

Originally posted by: Howard
Some day you'll realize the benefits of information exchange.

Sounds good. Some day you'll wash your hands.

If it makes you feel better to think I don't wash my hands, go right ahead.