Humility

[vshah]

... too cool for nucleosynthesis...

i want a t-shirt that says that now :awe:

 

[Jeff7]

World atheist convention rejects Australian creationist debate challenge

http://creation.com/global-atheists-reject-debate-challenge

Not a surprise. When the truth is against you why would you want to debate?

Would you agree to a debate with the Invisible Pink Unicorn believers? Truly they do exist. They're invisible, that's why we can't see them. And we have faith that they're pink.

Or the Flying Spaghetti Monster. Or the intelligent glass of water which created God. Or the ancient Greek gods.


Scientific method vs ancient legends.

... too cool for nucleosynthesis...

i want a t-shirt that says that now :awe:

 

[Nik]

Yay! Another Phineas trainwreck!

Read my sig

 

[PlasmaBomb]

Here is why:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDqlwrFupyU

It's down copyright :thumbsdown:

 

[darkswordsman17]

It's down copyright :thumbsdown:

It was a Family Guy clip where they watch Cosmos (the Carl Sagan show) edited for Rednecks.

 

[PlasmaBomb]

With the best science and equipment, humans once thought the Earth was flat.

The Terrestrial Sphere of Crates of Mallus (ca. 150 B.C.). (Round Earth).

Nope scientists had proven that the Earth was round and calculated it's circumference to within 40 odd miles!

We also thought the Sun revolved around the Earth.

I seem to recall that the Church really liked that idea, and persecuted those who said otherwise (Galileo)

Only 80 years ago, we found out about a 9th planet in our own solar system.

It's a dwarf planet
It's really far away... and was discovered by mathematical modelling! (Science)

To be sure and know there is no God is arrogant itself.

As is the corollary... in the absence of evidence nothing is absolute, one must act on faith or form a hypothesis.

 

[PlasmaBomb]

I dunno, watching him get stung is fucking hilarious.

Then again, he seems to enjoy the effects of the toxin.

One word... flagellant.

God demands you flay yourself for his forgiveness! NAO!

Regardless, he just keeps telling the damn wasps to "give me your damn honey already! stop with this stinging, it's futile." But he never stops to figure out that wasps simply do not make honey.

LOL.

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

This forum needs a voteban function.

 

[PlasmaBomb]

i want a t-shirt that says that now :awe:

This made me laugh :thumbsup:

 

[PlasmaBomb]

It was a Family Guy clip where they watch Cosmos (the Carl Sagan show) edited for Rednecks.

I've seen that episode, thanks for cluing me in :beer;

 

[PlasmaBomb]

Freakin LOVE stuff like this. I can't watch those vids at work, but I've seen them both. Did you link to the Deep Field or to the Ultra Deep Field?

Did you say Ultra Deep Field?

 

[Nik]

Did you say Ultra Deep Field?

 

[datalink7]

Are you saying size isn't important?

 

[PhineasJWhoopee]

PhineasJWhoopee. Every time you post in these type of thread, its like a fat little 6 year old kid poking his fingers in a 18lb wasp nest. STOP THAT SHIT!

What can I say, it doesn't take much to rile up the militant atheists here.

 

[PhineasJWhoopee]

So, now you're using the "he said 'moron'" excuse to completely ignore a post that shoots a major hole in your argument? You've ignored the "moron" comment until finally you realize your argument has been lost?

It'd be nice if you could respond to the facts in that post, and while you're at it, respond to the other three facts that the rabbi also got wrong, that you selectively chose not to argue against.

That is, if you've got anything left. I think I've demonstrated sufficiently how your interpretation and the rabbi's interpretation of "scientific consensus" is WRONG.
You simply lack an education in the field, so you're excused. The rabbi is attempting to make statements as an authority on the subject. In my book, that makes him a... Nawww, I won't say it this time.

Did you read the entire article, or are you just nit picking? The Rabbi is not arguing astrophysics, he's pointing out the limitations of science.

I think it's a brilliantly written, well reasoned article.

You're entitled to your opinion, but to call him a "moron" and an "idiot" is silly.

 

[zinfamous]

I have welcomed rationale debate. Unfortunately, the only thing I've gotten in return from you and a few others is name calling and ad-hominem attacks.

The rabbi's letter is well thought out and tightly reasoned. Where do you find fault with it?

your retort to any sort of evidence presented to you is always "that has been disproven--next!" OF course, you never back anything up with comparable observational evidence. You choose to argue rational evidence-based methods against philosophical quandary, which is simply irrational and pointless.

You fail to accept the fact that this can not be done.

therefore, you deserve little more than ad hominem.

 

[PhineasJWhoopee]

your retort to any sort of evidence presented to you is always "that has been disproven--next!" OF course, you never back anything up with comparable observational evidence. You choose to argue rational evidence-based methods against philosophical quandary, which is simply irrational and pointless.

You fail to accept the fact that this can not be done.

therefore, you deserve little more than ad hominem.

I guess you just selectively read my posts if that's the way you feel. The "argumentation" on your side is generally to name call and post links.

It's no wonder the militant atheists are so loathe to debate their position in a public forum.

 

[Nik]

This is pretty much the crux of any PhineasJWhooeptifuckindoo's posts:

"NUH UH! NUH UH! NUH UH!"

 

[PhineasJWhoopee]

it is probably not accurately portrayed by some book written a few thousand years ago by even more ignorant and primitive men.

I think that if you read the book you probaly wouldn't make such a comment. You may diagree with it, but to call the authors "ignorant and primitive men" is laughable.

 

[Nik]

I guess you just selectively read my posts if that's the way you feel. The "argumentation" on your side is generally to name call and post links.

It's no wonder the militant atheists are so loathe to debate their position in a public forum.

OH NO! Not...*gasp* .. not .. LINKS!!

Somebody actually posted evidence to back up their claims?! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!1!!!!!!!!11!!!1!one!!!1

 

[Nik]

I think that if you read the book you probaly wouldn't make such a comment. You may diagree with it, but to call the authors "ignorant and primitive men" is laughable.

They wore dresses and worshipped a guy with good advice who claimed to be the son of a non-existent god, didn't have proof, and was dumb enough to knowingly pull such a stunt in a violent community and got killed for it.

Of course they're ignorant and primitive.

 

[zinfamous]

I have welcomed rationale debate. Unfortunately, the only thing I've gotten in return from you and a few others is name calling and ad-hominem attacks.

The rabbi's letter is well thought out and tightly reasoned. Where do you find fault with it?

Fact: we can see--now--TODAY--the Big Bang.

It is absolutely observable by our eyes. I'm not a physicist, but I know enough to realize how little that Rabbi knows about the universe.

 

[Nik]

Fact: we can see--now--TODAY--the Big Bang.

It is absolutely observable by our eyes. I'm not a physicist, but I know enough to realize how little that Rabbi knows about the universe.

You should provide a link showing this (I wanna see it too) because everybody knows that he will refuse to click on it.

PJW just cannot handle being wrong so he buries his head in the sand to avoid being notified.

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

I guess you just selectively read my posts if that's the way you feel.

You are cordially invited to quote yourself supplying evidence of any kind whatsoever. Since I know you cannot, kindly shut the fuck up.

The "argumentation" on your side is generally to name call and post links.

Actually, as anyone can see, there are copious amounts of evidence presented to you, and you simply ignore them. You have the typical, head-in-the-sand, fingers-in-the-ears creationist mentality. Do you know how unoriginal you are? I've been debating this shit for years and you're just like every single other ignorant hick creationist I've come across.

It's no wonder the militant atheists are so loathe to debate their position in a public forum.

Your posts are met with the derision they deserve. You have been presented rational arguments, and you do not return with rational responses, and yet you claim you want rational debate. You are dishonest, and you are ignorant. Is it any wonder everyone else shares the same opinion of you?

 

[zinfamous]

If that's true, and you understand what you read, you should be able to explain it. That doesn't seem to be the case though. You only seem capable of repeatedly forwarding me the link.

the evidence, facts, and arguments of evolution fit into a very large library. To expect someone to cover all of the salient points that apparently require you to understand these things is a herculean task; and frankly, if handled by the laymen, could lead to misunderstandings. Such has been said and formulated in many places. Talk Origins is a good enough resource that can answer any question that you and yours could submit--of course, it's not that you will ever accept anything regarding the observable natural world. Yours is one of fairies and demons.

It's easier for your angle, because the origin of the world and all knowledge concerning such has been condensed in to a single verse, the reality deemed important only to non-human entities. You don't honestly care what is going on, b/c you're happy enough to accept that such is beyond your control.

I honestly don't care what you believe. It's when your beliefs intrude on the education of my children and my and other's children and the desire for them to learn about the world around them, not to accept mythological conceits as fact. It is perfectly fine for you to believe what you will, it is dangerous and morally irresponsible to allow you to force your beliefs onto others in an attempt to subvert factual natural law and human intellect in favor of your mystic prejudices. That is not a right protected under any constitution, and as such you will always lose this battle.