Humility

[OCGuy]

 

[PhineasJWhoopee]

Cute, but a silly red herring.

 

[DangerAardvark]

Notice how I do not make eye contact with the creationist. Nor do I directly address it. It is important when dealing with a creationist, to maintain your stance of dominance at all times.

 

[PhineasJWhoopee]

Notice how I do not make eye contact with the creationist. Nor do I directly address it. It is important when dealing with a creationist, to maintain your stance of dominance at all times.

Your view doesn't surprise me. Evolutionists are generally unwilling to debate proponents of ID since they routinely get their clocks cleaned.

I'd run and hide too rather than try to defend and indefensible position.

 

[Jeff7]

Cute, but a silly red herring.

Stop turning away from a contrary viewpoint.



Praise Raptor Jesus!

 

[PhineasJWhoopee]

Stop turning away from a contrary viewpoint.

Praise Raptor Jesus!

World atheist convention rejects Australian creationist debate challenge

http://creation.com/global-atheists-reject-debate-challenge

Not a surprise. When the truth is against you why would you want to debate?

 

[adlep]

World atheist convention rejects Australian creationist debate challenge

http://creation.com/global-atheists-reject-debate-challenge

Not a surprise. When the truth is against you why would you want to debate?

Here is why:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDqlwrFupyU

 

[tigersty1e]

With the best science and equipment, humans once thought the Earth was flat.

We also thought the Sun revolved around the Earth.

Only 80 years ago, we found out about a 9th planet in our own solar system.

And then nope, we made mistake. That wasn't a planet.

To be sure and know there is no God is arrogant itself.

 

[El Guaraguao]

PhineasJWhoopee. Every time you post in these type of thread, its like a fat little 6 year old kid poking his fingers in a 18lb wasp nest. STOP THAT SHIT!

 

[cKGunslinger]

With the best science and equipment, humans once thought the Earth was flat.

We also thought the Sun revolved around the Earth.

Only 80 years ago, we found out about a 9th planet in our own solar system.

And then nope, we made mistake. That wasn't a planet.

To be sure and know there is no God is arrogant itself.

I can certainly agree with this post. I personally have no idea if there is a God or not, although I am fairly certain that if there is a Creator of all the known Universe, it is probably not accurately portrayed by some book written a few thousand years ago by even more ignorant and primitive men.

So, to clarify my position:

• Belief that we don't fully comprehend the ultimate origins of all matter and time? Reasonable
• Belief that we know exactly where we came from and what He wants us to do, say, and think at such a detailed level? Absurdly ridiculous

 

[destrekor]

PhineasJWhoopee. Every time you post in these type of thread, its like a fat little 6 year old kid poking his fingers in a 18lb wasp nest. STOP THAT SHIT!

I dunno, watching him get stung is fucking hilarious.

Then again, he seems to enjoy the effects of the toxin. Regardless, he just keeps telling the damn wasps to "give me your damn honey already! stop with this stinging, it's futile." But he never stops to figure out that wasps simply do not make honey.

 

[911paramedic]

Your view doesn't surprise me. Evolutionists are generally unwilling to debate proponents of ID since they routinely get their clocks cleaned.

 

[911paramedic]

P.P. That star video is incredible, thanks for the link OP.

(P.P. = Post Post)

 

[ixelion]

Yes, I am humbled by the fact that there are billions of galaxies, billions of blades of grass, countless microscopic particles and immeasurable number of Asians.

Who cares how much of anything there is? we are the only thing in the universe with conscious self awareness.

 

[JulesMaximus]

haha. you're the one that feels so threatened. It's why you close your eyes and plug your ears and scream WAWAWANANANAI'MNOTLISTENING! whenever confronted with rational debate.

It's the creationist way. They are all batshit insane.

 

[JulesMaximus]

I never claimed to be an astrophysicist and in fact, I've never been particularly fascinated by the subject.

I don't know if you shot any major holes in the Rabbi's thesis or not since I couldn't get past your offensive comments.

Make a cogent rebutal to his points without the invectives and I'll be happy to have a look.

He already did...

 

[PlasmaBomb]

The known Universe has a radius of ~47 billion light years. Within it are hundreds of billions of galaxies. Within those are hundreds of billions of stars. One of those stars is our Sun. Our Sun is about 4.5 billions years old, as is our planet. Recognizable human life has been on Earth for ~200,000 years. That's approximately 0.000015% of the age of the Universe.

Most religions preach humility. Assuming that "The Creator" of this near-incomprehensibly vast Universe has nothing better to do than wait around for 99.999985% of the Universe's age just to monitor your each and every action - from going to church on Sunday mornings to what you eat on Fridays - so as to judge you is *not* my idea of being humble. It may very well be the most extreme example of narcissism imaginable.

You are not important.

Smile! :awe:


Hubble Deep Field
Star Size Comparisons

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Unpossible the Earth is only 5,700 years old...



I am important

/Jobs

 

[destrekor]

P.P. That star video is incredible, thanks for the link OP.

(P.P. = Post Post)

Oddly enough, P.S. would still work beautifully, considering it would be viewed after one would view your "signature", since eyes still scan past it, onto the next post.

 

[sourceninja]

The Age of the Universe.

Interesting perspective from a rabbi.

http://www.chabad.org/therebbe/article_cdo/aid/60946/jewish/The-Age-of-the-Universe.htm

We may now summarize the weaknesses, nay, hopelessness, of all so-called scientific theories regarding the origin and age of our universe:
(a) These theories have been advanced on the basis of observable data during a relatively short period of time, of only a number of decades, and at any rate not more than a couple of centuries.
(b) On the basis of such a relatively small range of known (though by no means perfectly) data, scientists venture to build theories by the weak method of extrapolation, and from the consequent to the antecedent, extending to many thousands (according to them, to millions and billions) of years!
(c) In advancing such theories, they blithely disregard factors universally admitted by all scientists, namely, that in the initial period of the birth of the universe, conditions of temperature, atmospheric pressure, radioactivity, and a host of other cataclystic factors, were totally different from those existing in the present state of the universe.
(d) The consensus of scientific opinion is that there must have been many radioactive elements in the initial stage which now no longer exist, or exist only in minimal quantities; some of them - elements that cataclystic potency of which is known even in minimal doses.
(e) The formation of the world, if we are to accept these theories, began with a process of colligation (of binding together) of single atoms or the components of the atom and their conglomeration and consolidation, involving totally unknown processes and variables.
In short, of all the weak scientific theories, those which deal with the origin of the cosmos and with its dating are (admittedly by the scientists themselves) the weakest of the weak.

It is small wonder (and this, incidentally, is one of the obvious refutations of these theories) that the various scientific theories concerning the age of the universe not only contradict each other, but some of them are quite incompatible and mutually exclusive, since the maximum date of one theory is less than the minimum date of another.

If anyone accepts such a theory uncritically, it can only lead him into fallacious and inconsequential reasoning.

So why bother trying right? I mean let's just trust some shitty books written by men to control other men instead?

 

[JulesMaximus]

The known Universe has a radius of ~47 billion light years. Within it are hundreds of billions of galaxies. Within those are hundreds of billions of stars. One of those stars is our Sun. Our Sun is about 4.5 billions years old, as is our planet. Recognizable human life has been on Earth for ~200,000 years. That's approximately 0.000015% of the age of the Universe.

Most religions preach humility. Assuming that "The Creator" of this near-incomprehensibly vast Universe has nothing better to do than wait around for 99.999985% of the Universe's age just to monitor your each and every action - from going to church on Sunday mornings to what you eat on Fridays - so as to judge you is *not* my idea of being humble. It may very well be the most extreme example of narcissism imaginable.

You are not important.

Smile! :awe:


Hubble Deep Field
Star Size Comparisons

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Awesome vids! :thumbsup:

 

[slayer202]

When you start calling people "morons" and "idiots" I start tuning out. It shows to me your lack of credibility, integrity, and intellectual honesty.

If you live and die by a strong belief that is wrong, and refuse to accept reason, it shouldn't be offensive to call this person an idiot

 

[darkswordsman17]

With the best science and equipment, humans once thought the Earth was flat.

We also thought the Sun revolved around the Earth.

Only 80 years ago, we found out about a 9th planet in our own solar system.

And then nope, we made mistake. That wasn't a planet.

To be sure and know there is no God is arrogant itself.

The thing that so many religious people can't seem to understand though is that science actually doesn't say anything about there ultimately being a god-deity or not, they're just looking at what are logical reasoning for things. Some of it is atheists like Dawkins that are vitriolic, but its hard to blame them when religion keeps trying to put itself into science whereas science is just trying to do its own thing.

But of course, every so often religion has to weigh in on science which is why you get so many people who can't understand they really are two entirely unrelated things, and its religion that keeps imposing itself on science, not the other way around.

I dunno, watching him get stung is fucking hilarious.

Then again, he seems to enjoy the effects of the toxin. Regardless, he just keeps telling the damn wasps to "give me your damn honey already! stop with this stinging, it's futile." But he never stops to figure out that wasps simply do not make honey.

Gotta love Always Sunny references.

 

[destrekor]

Gotta love Always Sunny references.

I feel ashamed admitting this, but I have not seen that episode. I love the show but have yet to just watch through all of the episodes in order.

I looked up honey and wasps, and found the quotes from that episode. That episode just sounds hilarious as usual.
"I'm a full-on-rapist!"

 

[Ruptga]

It's the creationist way. They are all batshit insane.

Not all of them are, just the ones that come into contact with real science and remain creationists.

 

[darkswordsman17]

I feel ashamed admitting this, but I have not seen that episode. I love the show but have yet to just watch through all of the episodes in order.

I looked up honey and wasps, and found the quotes from that episode. That episode just sounds hilarious as usual.
"I'm a full-on-rapist!"

Wow, that's awesome though, I wasn't sure if it was or not, but it was so precise in how Charlie acted that I figured it had to be.

Funny thing is, I think Charlie knows more about stars than a few of the people on here (there's a great exchange between Mac and Dennis and Charlie about trash and stars).

The most recent season was a bit off, it still had great moments. Unfortunately, Hulu got blackballed and can only offer 3 episodes at a time now (might be able to get the full seasons with Hulu Plus now, but they've had the 3 show limit for a long time). New season starts thursday