Human is the end of evolution

[SlitheryDee]

I think that most of the time people with good genes find other people with good genes to mate with. People with bad genes usually mate with other people with bad genes. Eventually the progeny of those with the bad genes will no longer be able to compete.

What if we evolve into 2 species; one in a state of glorious biological and intellectual advancement, and another consisting of degenerates that live exclusively on the man made beer-can continent of Trailerparkia? :shocked:

 

[tiejiba]

Originally posted by: SlitheryDee
I think that most of the time people with good genes find other people with good genes to mate with. People with bad genes usually mate with other people with bad genes. Eventually the progeny of those with the bad genes will no longer be able to compete.

What if we evolve into 2 species; one in a state of glorious biological and intellectual advancement, and another consisting of degenerates that live exclusively on the man made beer-can continent of Trailerparkia? :shocked:

this might happen

 

[tiejiba]

Originally posted by: Coolone
I'm FROM South Africa, and I have no idea wtf you're going on about as far as we're concerned.

wild life dude, I do not care about politics, that is your own problem

 

[Gibsons]

Originally posted by: tiejiba

Originally posted by: SlitheryDee
I think that most of the time people with good genes find other people with good genes to mate with. People with bad genes usually mate with other people with bad genes. Eventually the progeny of those with the bad genes will no longer be able to compete.

What if we evolve into 2 species; one in a state of glorious biological and intellectual advancement, and another consisting of degenerates that live exclusively on the man made beer-can continent of Trailerparkia? :shocked:

this might happen

You'll find (with some exceptions) that what a "good gene" is varies a great deal depending on circumstances.

 

[Accipiter22]

Originally posted by: engineereeyore

Originally posted by: Accipiter22
Evolution does NOT go to perfection. It simply goes to reproductive stability at which point environmental stressors are no longer potent enough to drive the mechanism.


Kirk Cameron (From Growing Pains) arguing against evolution

Exactly. So to say evolution is stopped would be to state that the environment is no longer changing. Does that mean global warming is a crock of crap?

We can compensate for it and remove selective pressure though

 

[Alone]

I'm curious about this, too, because we didn't start where we are now. At one point, we were all stupid, incompetent and worthless. But over time we evolved and have the capabilities we do now.

 

[LordMaul]

Are you trying to say we need to start weeding out the inferior races and traits so as to ensure that the best ones get passed on through time, thus creating the best possible environment for evolution to progress our species?

Good idea.


*runs*

 

[TruePaige]

Originally posted by: Gibsons

Originally posted by: tiejiba

Originally posted by: SlitheryDee
I think that most of the time people with good genes find other people with good genes to mate with. People with bad genes usually mate with other people with bad genes. Eventually the progeny of those with the bad genes will no longer be able to compete.

What if we evolve into 2 species; one in a state of glorious biological and intellectual advancement, and another consisting of degenerates that live exclusively on the man made beer-can continent of Trailerparkia? :shocked:

this might happen

You'll find (with some exceptions) that what a "good gene" is varies a great deal depending on circumstances.

Recent findings show that genes are more of a functional network than independent qualities so it's more "a good series of genes". Careful what you play with! =D

 

[Siddhartha]

Originally posted by: tiejiba

After coming back from my african wild life trip, I feel people (human) is the end of life evolution. From this point, the life on earth is going down.

By far, human has the best gene on earth and it takes millions of years to get this point.
Life started from very simple form and began more and more complex through the natural selection.

When I was in africa I wittness the whole process. In the animals, only the ones (male) that are strongest, toughest can mate and pass on their gene. Overall, the ones with best gene and their offsprings will survive while improving their gene. Eventually, they evolve into a higher level of life form.

Rightnow, human dominates this planet and other speices have no room or time so they can out evolve us and replace human.

At the other end, look at ourselves, everybody can mate and reproduce no matter what kind of gene he has. This means all the gene (good, mediocre, bad) are passed on. The bottomline is we are not improving our genes in long term. We may create technical wonders, but as a life form, our quality is going down.

There is no "best gene". Humans can not be the "end of evolution" because evolution is the result of the interaction of natural selection and the change of offspring from their parents due to reproductive genetic variability. Evolution is an ongoing process.

Evolution is not directional. Successful species do not always evolve to more complex organisms. The only rational way to gauge the evolutionary success of a species would be to go by its ability to reproduce and have offspring that can successfully reproduce.

You are projecting your values, that humans are the crown of creation, on a process that is not directional.

 

[Fullmetal Chocobo]

Originally posted by: tiejiba
The bottomline is we are not improving our genes in long term. We may create technical wonders, but as a life form, our quality is going down.

Or one could say that our techinical prowess is our next natural level of evolution. It doesn't have to be within the genes. Case in point, our abilty to use and develop tools allowed us to survive.

 

[Cattlegod]

I used to think that we wouldn't evolve from our current point because we protect the week. I then realized that once an organism protects its week for the greater good, it also has reached the level of intelligence necessary to genetically engineer themselves into a better human at a MUCH faster rate than any type of evolution.

 

[DaShen]

The OP doesn't really understand the process of evolution

/thread

 

[rsd]

Ok enough of this madness. Internet nerds should forever be banned from referencing Darwin, Evolution, or Mating for that matter.

 

[smack Down]

Originally posted by: Cattlegod
I used to think that we wouldn't evolve from our current point because we protect the week. I then realized that once an organism protects its week for the greater good, it also has reached the level of intelligence necessary to genetically engineer themselves into a better human at a MUCH faster rate than any type of evolution.

Evolution hasn't stopped because we protect the weak, it has stopped because the population is so large and mobile that everyone is interbreeding so there can be no population that changes.

For there to be any real evolution 99.9% of the people need to die and we need to go back to walking as the only means to travel.

 

[rsd]

Originally posted by: smack Down

Originally posted by: Cattlegod
I used to think that we wouldn't evolve from our current point because we protect the week. I then realized that once an organism protects its week for the greater good, it also has reached the level of intelligence necessary to genetically engineer themselves into a better human at a MUCH faster rate than any type of evolution.

Evolution hasn't stopped because we protect the weak, it has stopped because the population is so large and mobile that everyone is interbreeding so there can be no population that changes.

For there to be any real evolution 99.9% of the people need to die and we need to go back to walking as the only means to travel.

Thank you for verifying my statement in the post above yours.

 

[smack Down]

Originally posted by: rsd

Originally posted by: smack Down

Originally posted by: Cattlegod
I used to think that we wouldn't evolve from our current point because we protect the week. I then realized that once an organism protects its week for the greater good, it also has reached the level of intelligence necessary to genetically engineer themselves into a better human at a MUCH faster rate than any type of evolution.

Evolution hasn't stopped because we protect the weak, it has stopped because the population is so large and mobile that everyone is interbreeding so there can be no population that changes.

For there to be any real evolution 99.9% of the people need to die and we need to go back to walking as the only means to travel.

Thank you for verifying my statement in the post above yours.

Just because your to stupid to understand evolution doesn't mean the rest of the population is.

 

[rsd]

Originally posted by: smack Down

Originally posted by: rsd

Originally posted by: smack Down

Originally posted by: Cattlegod
I used to think that we wouldn't evolve from our current point because we protect the week. I then realized that once an organism protects its week for the greater good, it also has reached the level of intelligence necessary to genetically engineer themselves into a better human at a MUCH faster rate than any type of evolution.

Evolution hasn't stopped because we protect the weak, it has stopped because the population is so large and mobile that everyone is interbreeding so there can be no population that changes.

For there to be any real evolution 99.9% of the people need to die and we need to go back to walking as the only means to travel.

Thank you for verifying my statement in the post above yours.

Just because your to stupid to understand evolution doesn't mean the rest of the population is.

You're right! I must be too stupid to realize evolution has stopped.

Durrrrr.....

 

[Gibsons]

Originally posted by: smack Down

Originally posted by: Cattlegod
I used to think that we wouldn't evolve from our current point because we protect the week. I then realized that once an organism protects its week for the greater good, it also has reached the level of intelligence necessary to genetically engineer themselves into a better human at a MUCH faster rate than any type of evolution.

Evolution hasn't stopped because we protect the weak, it has stopped because the population is so large and mobile that everyone is interbreeding so there can be no population that changes.

For there to be any real evolution 99.9% of the people need to die and we need to go back to walking as the only means to travel.

Evolution hasn't stopped.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: smack Down

Originally posted by: rsd

Originally posted by: smack Down

Originally posted by: Cattlegod
I used to think that we wouldn't evolve from our current point because we protect the week. I then realized that once an organism protects its week for the greater good, it also has reached the level of intelligence necessary to genetically engineer themselves into a better human at a MUCH faster rate than any type of evolution.

Evolution hasn't stopped because we protect the weak, it has stopped because the population is so large and mobile that everyone is interbreeding so there can be no population that changes.

For there to be any real evolution 99.9% of the people need to die and we need to go back to walking as the only means to travel.

Thank you for verifying my statement in the post above yours.

Just because your to stupid to understand evolution doesn't mean the rest of the population is.

hey pot! you ever meet kettle?

 

[yllus]

We do well in our current environment. When this environment changes, as it eventually will, we'll see who's on top.

Originally posted by: waggy
hey pot! you ever meet kettle?

Good guy, that kettle. Owes me $20.

 

[smack Down]

Originally posted by: Gibsons

Originally posted by: smack Down

Originally posted by: Cattlegod
I used to think that we wouldn't evolve from our current point because we protect the week. I then realized that once an organism protects its week for the greater good, it also has reached the level of intelligence necessary to genetically engineer themselves into a better human at a MUCH faster rate than any type of evolution.

Evolution hasn't stopped because we protect the weak, it has stopped because the population is so large and mobile that everyone is interbreeding so there can be no population that changes.

For there to be any real evolution 99.9% of the people need to die and we need to go back to walking as the only means to travel.

Evolution hasn't stopped.

In humans for all practical purposes it has. You might find a few case like sickle cell, where a genetic defect is a slight advantage in a few areas of the world.

Other then that humans are not nearing the point of having new subspecies or species, nothing has change physically in human bodies for thousands of years. Large population simple can't evolve because any change in a person gene will take forever to spread through the whole population.

Think about say you have the gene that makes you immune to the flu. How long is it going to take you and your offspring to replace 6 billion people and there offspring? It is never going to happen. Now if a mass extinction was caused by the flu and you and offspring survived thanks to your gene and that 6 billion people was reduced to a few thousand your gene would be in most people with in a hundred generations.

Please go look up the Cambrian Extinction and notice that right after that is the Cambrian explosion.

 

[Gibsons]

Originally posted by: smack Down

Originally posted by: Gibsons

Originally posted by: smack Down

Originally posted by: Cattlegod
I used to think that we wouldn't evolve from our current point because we protect the week. I then realized that once an organism protects its week for the greater good, it also has reached the level of intelligence necessary to genetically engineer themselves into a better human at a MUCH faster rate than any type of evolution.

Evolution hasn't stopped because we protect the weak, it has stopped because the population is so large and mobile that everyone is interbreeding so there can be no population that changes.

For there to be any real evolution 99.9% of the people need to die and we need to go back to walking as the only means to travel.

Evolution hasn't stopped.

In humans for all practical purposes it has. You might find a few case like sickle cell, where a genetic defect is a slight advantage in a few areas of the world.

Other then that humans are not nearing the point of having new subspecies or species, nothing has change physically in human bodies for thousands of years. Large population simple can't evolve because any change in a person gene will take forever to spread through the whole population.

Think about say you have the gene that makes you immune to the flu. How long is it going to take you and your offspring to replace 6 billion people and there offspring? It is never going to happen. Now if a mass extinction was caused by the flu and you and offspring survived thanks to your gene and that 6 billion people was reduced to a few thousand your gene would be in most people with in a hundred generations.

Please go look up the Cambrian Extinction and notice that right after that is the Cambrian explosion.

All you're arguing is that the selective pressures have changed, which I agree with.

But as long as there are genetic traits which influence reproductive success, there will be evolution.

 

[iamaelephant]

Originally posted by: smack Down
In humans for all practical purposes it has. You might find a few case like sickle cell, where a genetic defect is a slight advantage in a few areas of the world.

Other then that humans are not nearing the point of having new subspecies or species, nothing has change physically in human bodies for thousands of years. Large population simple can't evolve because any change in a person gene will take forever to spread through the whole population.

Think about say you have the gene that makes you immune to the flu. How long is it going to take you and your offspring to replace 6 billion people and there offspring? It is never going to happen. Now if a mass extinction was caused by the flu and you and offspring survived thanks to your gene and that 6 billion people was reduced to a few thousand your gene would be in most people with in a hundred generations.

Please go look up the Cambrian Extinction and notice that right after that is the Cambrian explosion.

That must be why bacteria, with populations that are orders of magnitude bigger than human populations, no longer evolve. Oh wait...

 

[ravana]

Did you guys miss the first season of Heroes or something.

We is still evolving yo!

 

[nvmyz71]

No... it's the Apes that will take over the world.

Damn Dirty APES!