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lxskllr

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Originally posted by: JoshGuru7

I admit that I strongly preferred UT'99 to 2kX, but the gameplay in UT3 feels far superior to me than it did in 2kX.

2kX felt more realistic (in everything but the gravity) but did so at the expense of precision and if I had wanted to make that trade I would have played any of the realistic shooters on the market who did it better. I liked the UT'99 shock rifle, sniper rifle and translocator how they were, and if it made the learning curve really steep then I thought that was a fair tradeoff.

UT3 extends dodging a bit, increases run speed, adds a hoverboard, ditches the jump/dodge and moves weapon balance back closer to '99 (welcome back shock rifle!). Most importantly for me, it brings back dodging as the primary mode of defense over the shield gun (and the bio can very definitely be dodged).

Really? I would say that the 2kx series is the least realistic of the bunch. That's the big attraction for me. I like the acrobatics, and advanced dodge and jump moves that are possible.

I also like the weapon selection in 2kx, though some could probably use tweaking. That's one thing I do like about UT3. They did a pretty decent job with the weapons, but I'd rather have them in UT2k4 :^P

The enforcers suck, and I'd rather have AR.

Hammer's just about useless. I'd have kept the shieldgun, but reduced the effective time, and boosted the regen slightly

Bio's too spammy for UT3, but it's a good weapon otherwise. I like the stickiness of it.

Flak secondary's obviously screwed. That's an easy fix though, and it's good otherwise.

I'm pretty happy with the rest of the weapons. I have a little trouble aiming sniper and shock, but I attribute that to being unfamiliar with them. I prefer lg, but I can live with UT3 sniper(much better than the 2kx sniper).

I've heard a lot of complaints about the 2kx xloc, but I haven't really used it in GOTY, so I can't comment. I liked it well enough, but I've never been a huge CTF player.

 

JoshGuru7

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Originally posted by: lxskllr
Really? I would say that the 2kx series is the least realistic of the bunch. That's the big attraction for me. I like the acrobatics, and advanced dodge and jump moves that are possible.
The increased jumping height feels more like rocket arena than UT and the side dodging is actually worse than in UT or UT3. I'll take the UT'99 dodge over the UT2kX jump-dodge any day.

Originally posted by: lxskllr
The enforcers suck, and I'd rather have AR.
The single enforcer isn't much to write home about but dual enforcers (with good aim) are a very well balanced weapon and a good counter to spawn camping. Use them in primary mode, and aim for the opponent's head.

Originally posted by: lxskllr
I've heard a lot of complaints about the 2kx xloc, but I haven't really used it in GOTY, so I can't comment. I liked it well enough, but I've never been a huge CTF player.
The UT translocator had zero cooldown, a very fast weapon switch time, great distance, and could be punted around the map with either the impact hammer or a shock combo. It was a big improvement for CTF as it made flag running *hard* and really required the entire team to work together to score against equally talented opponents. It also led to a very steep learning curve and a lot of complaints from newer players who were constantly getting tele-fragged, so they nerfed it in 2kX.

I think a lot of the fond memories of UT are specifically focused on UT CTF or UT Assault. The DM was fun, but even at the time I preferred Q3:RA for DM/TDM.
 

CP5670

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It includes quite a few new maps. :thumbsup: This looks almost like an expansion pack rather than just a patch. Props to them for making it free. Official game content updates like this used to be common at one point but are rarely seen today.

The Greed mode sounds very similar to Hoard in Descent 3, if anyone has played that.
 

evident

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is this thing out yet

eg. are we there yet are we there yet are we there yet are we there yet are we there yet :laugh:
 

Modelworks

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They said they are releasing new maps on March 5th, and that would be after the big patch. So anytime between now and March 4th !


attaching a March 5 to its release on PC and PlayStation 3, the free Titan Pack will add 11 new maps for Deathmatch, CTF, Vehicle CTF and Warfare modes. An additional 8 maps come from the first Bonus Pack and Xbox 360 version of the game.

The Titan Pack will also add two new game modes: Greed, a "tug of war"-style mode, and Betrayal, a mode where alliances and teams change throughout a match.

Players will be able to use the Axon Stealthbender unit as well, along with X-Ray field and Link Station repair unit deployables.

Also expect to see new characters, turrets and a Titan mutator where, upon hitting a certain amount of frags, you become a 15-foot tall Titan, enhanced by every power-up in the game.

The Titan Pack will follow after the release of a massive patch for the game, which will bring Steam achievements support among other changes.
 

Stuxnet

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Originally posted by: CP5670
The Greed mode sounds very similar to Hoard in Descent 3, if anyone has played that.

Greed was actually a community mod for UT2k4. If memory serves, the guy who wrote it was hired by Epic as a result.
 

destrekor

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Due to this announcement, I figured it was perfect time to get back into my Unreal Tournament days. That, and need new games for my new LCD and videocard. Result? Picked up L4D recently when Steam had the half-off sale. And UT3 cost $20 through Steam so just picked it up. Why not right? :)
Pack sounds kickass.
 

orion23

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Love this game....Awesome graphics, great weapons, just pure fun....good to relieve stress. But I think my 3 year old nephew like it more than me, in fact, I can no longer play it as much as I used to...I'm guessing he'll like the patch as well!
 

videopho

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Originally posted by: orion23
Love this game....Awesome graphics, great weapons, just pure fun....good to relieve stress. But I think my 3 year old nephew like it more than me, in fact, I can no longer play it as much as I used to...I'm guessing he'll like the patch as well!

lol...I gave up playing this game the very same day I received it in the mail from Gogamer.com.
I may put it on FS forum if I can find the disc.
 

Molondo

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Good game, just not fun getting slaughtered. It seems everyone knows everyone in the community.
 
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Yall can go ahead and forget about this; the PC patch doesn't have a server browser overhaul. Same stupid UI, still have to disconnect from server and wait 5 seconds to load, click, click, wait for it to refresh, and then click to connect to another one.

They can't say "Extensive UI overhaul" without doing something about this. As I was afraid, they have completely overhyped this patch. Goodbye, Epic, you pulled everything from the franchise that set UT apart from other games.
 

Zenoth

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Originally posted by: soccerballtux
Yall can go ahead and forget about this; the PC patch doesn't have a server browser overhaul. Same stupid UI, still have to disconnect from server and wait 5 seconds to load, click, click, wait for it to refresh, and then click to connect to another one.

They can't say "Extensive UI overhaul" without doing something about this. As I was afraid, they have completely overhyped this patch. Goodbye, Epic, you pulled everything from the franchise that set UT apart from other games.

I assume you gather your conclusions from the Beta patch?

If not then please provide me with the link of the final patch so I can see that for myself.

Thanks.
 

Zillatech

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I myself hated the demo (beta) when it came out so I never bought the real game. I was hoping Epic would have released a new Demo with all the patches/improvements but they never have.

Its a damn shame they botched this so badly. I've been a hardcore UT player since 2000 and loved them all before UT3. Even thou the game is only $19.00 bucks now, I can't bring myself to spend the money on a game I expected so much more from.

I still play UT2004 now and again but I have to admit, its getting old now & most players have moved on.

UT - R.I.P. :(