Huge article on Crysis2 in PC Gamer. Says "most advanced game ever"

[jonks]

It looks good to me. I am in the minority that liked Crysis, though.

You're not in the minority.

http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/crysis/players.html?tag=scoresummary;user-score
17,554 votes = avg score: 8.9

I loved crysis and warhead. Anxiously awaiting C2, haven't had fun with an FPS in a long while.

 

[TechBoyJK]

Are you aware that companies simply run the game through a compiler for each system?

No, but I'm aware that "companies" don't simply run a game through a "compiler" for each system.

Care to elaborate? Maybe explain why games, which were custom coded for a specific system, aren't just ran "through a compiler" so they can be played on other consoles? Time maybe? Money?

Or by compiler, do you mean company of programmers and designers that have to go through code and rewrite it so its compatible for other systems... ??

 

[TechBoyJK]

You're not in the minority.

http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/crysis/players.html?tag=scoresummary;user-score
17,554 votes = avg score: 8.9

I loved crysis and warhead. Anxiously awaiting C2, haven't had fun with an FPS in a long while.

This. People either had a rig that could play, and simply didn't like the game (to each his own) or they didn't have a rig that could play it and bitched that the game was poorly coded.

Most people that have a rig that can play it, and enjoy FPS's, love it for what it is.

 

[smackababy]

No, but I'm aware that "companies" don't simply run a game through a "compiler" for each system.

Care to elaborate? Maybe explain why games, which were custom coded for a specific system, aren't just ran "through a compiler" so they can be played on other consoles? Time maybe? Money?

Or by compiler, do you mean company of programmers and designers that have to go through code and rewrite it so its compatible for other systems... ??

He doesn't understand what a compiler does, if he did, he would know it has no effect on the subject he is talking about. A complier simply translates the source code into a language suitable to be used. Different languages do it differently, but it all ends up as bytecode read by the CPU.

This. People either had a rig that could play, and simply didn't like the game (to each his own) or they didn't have a rig that could play it and bitched that the game was poorly coded.

Most people that have a rig that can play it, and enjoy FPS's, love it for what it is.

I didn't actually think Crysis was that good of a game. I loved how it was done though and enjoyed playing it as if it were a really well done tech demo. The things that people were able to do with that engine were amazing.

 

[WaitingForNehalem]

I'm talking about getting the engine to run on multiple platforms. They write everything using C/C++, nothing low level like assembly. They then run it through a compiler to get it to run on each system. It's all automatic. Now when it comes to optimizing, they do that by hand. It doesn't cost them millions like TechBoyJK stated. Smackabay, I do know what I'm talking about.

 

[TechBoyJK]

I'm talking about getting the engine to run on multiple platforms. They write everything using C/C++, nothing low level like assembly. They then run it through a compiler to get it to run on each system. It's all automatic. Now when it comes to optimizing, they do that by hand. It doesn't cost them millions like TechBoyJK stated. Smackabay, I do know what I'm talking about.

They, as in Crytek? Or they, as in developers in general....

Because the beauty of CryEngine3 is that it's automatic.. Other game engines, not so much. That's why CryEngine3 is such a big deal for developers. They don't develop for a specific platform. THey develop in the Sandbox..

 

[TechBoyJK]

He doesn't understand what a compiler does, if he did, he would know it has no effect on the subject he is talking about. A complier simply translates the source code into a language suitable to be used. Different languages do it differently, but it all ends up as bytecode read by the CPU.

I didn't actually think Crysis was that good of a game. I loved how it was done though and enjoyed playing it as if it were a really well done tech demo. The things that people were able to do with that engine were amazing.

CryTek actually owns up to that opinion, that the game lacked a lot of substance in the games story, etc...

I think that's what they are pushing with this new release. That the engine advances aren't in graphics, but in ability to enhance gameplay.

 

[WaitingForNehalem]

They, as in Crytek? Or they, as in developers in general....

Because the beauty of CryEngine3 is that it's automatic.. Other game engines, not so much. That's why CryEngine3 is such a big deal for developers. They don't develop for a specific platform. THey develop in the Sandbox..

most large developers have their own custom compiler

 

[TechBoyJK]

most large developers have their own custom compiler

This still doesn't mean they can just make a game and deploy it on multiple platforms like CryEngine3.

 

[EvilComputer92]

Don't be troll. . . I suppose you think Dirt2 is crappy port cause it encourage you to play with a gamepad? its a damned racing game. Theres nothing wrong with a console port as long as its done well.

Of course Crysis 2 isn't a port, if you would use the 3 brain cells you have to do some research you know that.

You're a bit dense aren't you? Dirt 2 has nothing to do with Crysis at all. One's a racing game that's easily feasible on both platforms. The other is a open ended shooter that's the sequel to the best looking game ever made.

Some of you guys have issues differentiating between Cryengine 3 and Crysis 2, which are in fact NOT the same thing.

Cryengine 3 is going to be one of the best engines developed with hopefully good scalability. I hope its takes over UE3 since it looks far better. It's taking the best of CE2 and optimizing it. It could be used for multiplatform, or it could be used for making PC only games. It's the choice of the developer.

On the other hand, Crysis 2 is multiplatform. It is bound to the constraints of the 360 and PS3. Do you realize we're talking about Crysis running on a X1800 and 7800 respectively. There's a limit to how far optimization can go. The fact is that the open world jungle is not possible on consoles, which is why they switched to a city which is far less intensive.
You are limited to 512mb of shared memory to fit everything. Cryengine 3 will do it's best to run everything well on all platforms, but the huge sprawling maps of Crysis will have to be left to mod makers.

 

[Liet]

This isn't the first time a game is touted as "being developed for multiple platforms!" and turns out to still be consolized shit. High textures are one thing, consolized unintuitive GUIs, menus, and dumbed-down gameplay are another.

 

[Skurge]

You're a bit dense aren't you? Dirt 2 has nothing to do with Crysis at all. One's a racing game that's easily feasible on both platforms. The other is a open ended shooter that's the sequel to the best looking game ever made.

Some of you guys have issues differentiating between Cryengine 3 and Crysis 2, which are in fact NOT the same thing.

Cryengine 3 is going to be one of the best engines developed with hopefully good scalability. I hope its takes over UE3 since it looks far better. It's taking the best of CE2 and optimizing it. It could be used for multiplatform, or it could be used for making PC only games. It's the choice of the developer.

On the other hand, Crysis 2 is multiplatform. It is bound to the constraints of the 360 and PS3. Do you realize we're talking about Crysis running on a X1800 and 7800 respectively. There's a limit to how far optimization can go. The fact is that the open world jungle is not possible on consoles, which is why they switched to a city which is far less intensive.
You are limited to 512mb of shared memory to fit everything. Cryengine 3 will do it's best to run everything well on all platforms, but the huge sprawling maps of Crysis will have to be left to mod makers.

So you are saying that they are gonna sacrifice the PC version, deliberately gimp it so that theres parity between all 3 platforms? I doubt it. I would believe that if they had to do MORE work to make the PC version look better, but the way CE3 is designed thats not the case.

This isn't the first time a game is touted as "being developed for multiple platforms!" and turns out to still be consolized shit. High textures are one thing, consolized unintuitive GUIs, menus, and dumbed-down gameplay are another.

Seeing as CryTEK have only made PC games in the past, I'm more inclined to believe the consoles will end up with the crappy UIs, menus, etc.

 

[shortylickens]

PC Gamer has been completely full of shit since the Doom 3 days, so I dont care what they say.
And Crysis wasnt much fun to play and originally looked a lot better than the game we actually got.
Far Cry 2 just plain sucked balls.

The only reason I care about this at all is I know Crytek has assloads of talent and will someday again impress me.
BUT, since this is being footed by EA (otherwise known as Anti-Midas) I dont think I will get my hopes up too high.
And I really dont care too much about it being cross-platform. There have been enough good titles that I dont think we can automatically dismiss this as ported crap.

 

[VulgarDisplay]

PC Gamer has been completely full of shit since the Doom 3 days, so I dont care what they say.
And Crysis wasnt much fun to play and originally looked a lot better than the game we actually got.
Far Cry 2 just plain sucked balls.

The only reason I care about this at all is I know Crytek has assloads of talent and will someday again impress me.
BUT, since this is being footed by EA (otherwise known as Anti-Midas) I dont think I will get my hopes up too high.
And I really dont care too much about it being cross-platform. There have been enough good titles that I dont think we can automatically dismiss this as ported crap.

Far Cry 2 wasn't made by Crytek. They lost the license for the Far Cry name to Ubisoft.

 

[TheVrolok]

I'm pretty excited for Crysis 2.. I just hope I don't have to upgrade for it.. I'm just too lazy these days to play with my WC loop.

 

[Rebel44]

Looks nice.

Any word on what DRM will they use? I hope they will use Steamworks or something similar.

 

[Cheesetogo]

BUT, since this is being footed by EA (otherwise known as Anti-Midas) I dont think I will get my hopes up too high.

Eh, EA has been doing a much better job with the studios they buy up recently. Just look at Bioware for example -- if anything, their games have actually gotten better.

 

[VulgarDisplay]

EA has been releasing amazing games lately if you ask me. Especially with what the other publishers are pushing out.

 

[scooterlibby]

You're not in the minority.

http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/crysis/players.html?tag=scoresummary;user-score
17,554 votes = avg score: 8.9

I loved crysis and warhead. Anxiously awaiting C2, haven't had fun with an FPS in a long while.

I guess you have a point. I should have remembered that that the prevailing negative attitude in the forums is derived from a non-random sample. Technically, though, the same could be said about the gamestop data.

 

[borisvodofsky]

You're all freakin tards, buying 2000 dollar hardware to play crysis. You realize the industry is just milking you when they put over 9000 lights in the game for the hell of it.

They'll sell you new hardware, make you feel guilty for not buying more games to utilize said hardware. So then you buy more overbloated games, which requires even more cash to play..

We gamers need to unite and just say NO to this criminal enterprise.

 

[TechBoyJK]

You're all freakin tards, buying 2000 dollar hardware to play crysis. You realize the industry is just milking you when they put over 9000 lights in the game for the hell of it.

They'll sell you new hardware, make you feel guilty for not buying more games to utilize said hardware. So then you buy more overbloated games, which requires even more cash to play..

We gamers need to unite and just say NO to this criminal enterprise.

lol you have to be joking and trolling, cause this is the most retardted thing ive read in a while

 

[Liet]

You're all freakin tards, buying 2000 dollar hardware to play crysis. You realize the industry is just milking you when they put over 9000 lights in the game for the hell of it.

They'll sell you new hardware, make you feel guilty for not buying more games to utilize said hardware. So then you buy more overbloated games, which requires even more cash to play..

We gamers need to unite and just say NO to this criminal enterprise.

Speak for yourself, dude. I'm a bang-for-the-buck enthusiast. Components get upgraded piecemeal, at the price point where the cost-per-performance is justified.

Yeah, buying a $900 CPU just for Crysis is silly... to me. I'm not judging those who do, because their money helps the industry I love.

Anyway. Poor troll, but it got a response I guess.

 

[Anubis]

"most advanced game ever"

so they confirmed that its just another graphics tech demo with piss poor gameplay that no computer built for the next 10 years will be able to play at max settings.

sounds awesome

 

[motsm]

so they confirmed that its just another graphics tech demo with piss poor gameplay that no computer built for the next 10 years will be able to play at max settings.

sounds awesome

Have fun trolling? Unfortunately for you it's already been shown in this thread that the vast majority of gamers loved Crysis. Boo hoo, you didn't like it, others did.

 

[TechBoyJK]

so they confirmed that its just another graphics tech demo with piss poor gameplay that no computer built for the next 10 years will be able to play at max settings.

sounds awesome

No they confirmed they didn't really mess with graphics all to much, just tuned the engine, and spent all of their time working on gameplay elements, etc. Crysis 2 is supposedly going to run better than Crysis 1. So I think have the wrong idea and might want to look into the facts to truly understand where their development is going. That is, if you don't want to be spreading false ideas.