HTC One X and One S reviews

[Puddle Jumper]

To be fair I did, but with the two phones I have most experience with (HTC desire and SGS2) the SAMOLED+ screen is brighter.

That's a reasonable statement though, SAMOLED clearly can be brighter than some LCDs but he is right that if you compare the brightest lcd phone to the brightest amoled one lcd would win at this point.

Edit I do find it funny that someone who is using a Winmo 5 smartphone with a 240x320 screen is complaining about the display on the Galaxy Note.

 

[Mopetar]

I dont have an iPad3 and I'm not going back to the Apple store after the last time I went in there and they wanted a "touchy feely introduce yourself to everyone and we'll have a little meeting about our new magical product" pow wow type thing. I'd be worried they'd cart me off to a re-education camp if I pulled out a Samsung and HTC smartphone in there. :biggrin:

Id be surprised if the iPad3 screen was more vivid than a SAMOLED+ screen, one of the biggest criticisisms about them is that they can be too over saturated. To me its not an issue on a phone but in a table I can see the need for better colour accuracy.

I find that surprising. The few times I've been to an Apple store it seemed like the most laid back and chill place in the world, but then again one of them was one in Hawaii. A colleague needed to get a computer to check some email and I said we could probably just use one at the Apple store. We just hung out for about 20 minutes and none of the sales staff ever bothered us about it and it seemed like there were a lot of people who just came in to use a computer or goof off with stuff.

That said, Anand found that the new iPad screen was a lot better than the old one, but I don't think they compared it to much else. I'll have to double check, but even having a picture would be nice.

 

[WelshBloke]

That's a reasonable statement though, SAMOLED clearly can be brighter than some LCDs but he is right that if you compare the brightest lcd phone to the brightest amoled one lcd would win at this point.

Oh yeah I dont disagree about that, I'd be worried about the picture on the SLCD at those sorts of brightness levels though. They tend to wash out a bit when they get too bright, the SAMOLED+ ones tend to do the opposite.

Ive never heard of anyone complain about SAMOLED screens being washed out. :hmm:

 

[WelshBloke]

I find that surprising. The few times I've been to an Apple store it seemed like the most laid back and chill place in the world, but then again one of them was one in Hawaii. A colleague needed to get a computer to check some email and I said we could probably just use one at the Apple store. We just hung out for about 20 minutes and none of the sales staff ever bothered us about it and it seemed like there were a lot of people who just came in to use a computer or goof off with stuff.

Yeah I was a bit wierded out. To give them the benefit of the doubt though the iPad3 had just come out so they were probably in "push the product" mode.

Edit: and it was just around the iPad3 tables, the rest of the store continued on as normal.

That said, Anand found that the new iPad screen was a lot better than the old one, but I don't think they compared it to much else. I'll have to double check, but even having a picture would be nice.

I have old eyes so I couldnt really see a massive difference between the iPad3 on display and the iPad2 with the product info on next to it. They both had nice screens.

 

[lothar]

http://blog.laptopmag.com/smartphone-screen-shoot-out-which-has-the-best-high-def-display

Round 1: Brightness

Winner: LG Spectrum/Samsung Galaxy Nexus.

Round 2: Viewing Angles

Winner: Samsung Galaxy Nexus

Round 3: Color Accuracy

Winner: LG Spectrum

Round 4: Sharpness

Winner: HTC Rezound. The LG Spectrum was a very close second.

Round 5: Outdoor Visibility

Winner: Samsung Galaxy Nexus



The technology behind the screens...
Galaxy Nexus: SAMOLED
LG Spectrum: IPS
LG Nitro HD : IPS
HTC Rezound: SLCD

 

[lothar]

But they aren't. At least not on the Samsung phones I've seen, most recently the Galaxy not. People say you can make it brighter but I did that and the damn thing was still dark. I was shocked given the praise these screens get.


Based on what I've seen LCDs are much more vibrant, especially the SLCDs and those from Sharp. The SAMOLED+ are not vibrant at all.

Obvious troll is obvious.

 

[WelshBloke]

Obvious troll is obvious.

Yeah he kind of over played his hand in this thread, he was getting away with it for a bit as well.

Cheers for the photos, save me from subjecting the forum to any more of my crappy attempts. :biggrin:

 

[makken]

The One X looks amazing design wise. unfortunately it is way too big for me. I wish they could/would make a phone like that with a 4.0" screen.

I guess this also means that HTC has written off QWERTY phones. Sad day for a G2 user

 

[poofyhairguy]

That's a reasonable statement though, SAMOLED clearly can be brighter than some LCDs but he is right that if you compare the brightest lcd phone to the brightest amoled one lcd would win at this point.

I have what is probably the brightest LCD (according to Anandtech's tests) and I will admit that the Prime in Super IPS mode is brighter than my SGS2. With that said the SGS2 is superior in sunlight despite that because the deeper blacks of the SAMOLED+ keep it from washing out. I would love a SAMOLED+ 10 inch tablet.

 

[lothar]

I have what is probably the brightest LCD (according to Anandtech's tests) and I will admit that the Prime in Super IPS mode is brighter than my SGS2. With that said the SGS2 is superior in sunlight despite that because the deeper blacks of the SAMOLED+ keep it from washing out. I would love a SAMOLED+ 10 inch tablet.

Does Samsung use SAMOLED (+ or -) technology on any of their tablets?
I haven't kept up with tablets much because unlike phones, I still believe that they are toys.

 

[Dari]

That's a reasonable statement though, SAMOLED clearly can be brighter than some LCDs but he is right that if you compare the brightest lcd phone to the brightest amoled one lcd would win at this point.

Edit I do find it funny that someone who is using a Winmo 5 smartphone with a 240x320 screen is complaining about the display on the Galaxy Note.

I complained because it does not hold a candle to my work phone. And I wasn't impressed with the color or brightness. I just think it's all hype. And, yes, I did go into the settings and put the brightness to max. SAMOLED+ is overhyped. I will be at Tekserve later this week so, if BB has internet access, suggest a website I can go to to see what the Galaxy Note is truly made of. If not, accept the fact that not everyone agrees with you...

 

[Dari]

http://blog.laptopmag.com/smartphone-screen-shoot-out-which-has-the-best-high-def-display

Round 1: Brightness

Winner: LG Spectrum/Samsung Galaxy Nexus.

Round 2: Viewing Angles

Winner: Samsung Galaxy Nexus

Round 3: Color Accuracy

Winner: LG Spectrum

Round 4: Sharpness

Winner: HTC Rezound. The LG Spectrum was a very close second.

Round 5: Outdoor Visibility

Winner: Samsung Galaxy Nexus



The technology behind the screens...
Galaxy Nexus: SAMOLED
LG Spectrum: IPS
LG Nitro HD : IPS
HTC Rezound: SLCD

There is clearly a blue-tint in the Galaxy Nexus in the brightness test.
In the Color Accuracy test the Galaxy Nexus looks good but wasn't the winner. Not sure how they were measuring it...
Outdoors, they all look awful...

 

[NikolaeVarius]

I complained because it does not hold a candle to my work phone. And I wasn't impressed with the color or brightness. I just think it's all hype. And, yes, I did go into the settings and put the brightness to max. SAMOLED+ is overhyped. I will be at Tekserve later this week so, if BB has internet access, suggest a website I can go to to see what the Galaxy Note is truly made of. If not, accept the fact that not everyone agrees with you...

I'm sorry if you don't agree with science.

Next up, arguing that the sun isn't all that bright compared to the moon.

 

[Dari]

I'm sorry if you don't agree with science.

Next up, arguing that the sun isn't all that bright compared to the moon.

Stop it. You're breaking my heart...
I'm sorry you can't see that, even in the pics Lothar posted, the SAMOLED+ screen has a strong blue-tint at full brightness. Also, it lost in the color accuracy test. Others disagree with you as well...

 

[NikolaeVarius]

Stop it. You're breaking my heart...
I'm sorry you can't see that, even in the pics Lothar posted, the SAMOLED+ screen has a strong blue-tint at full brightness. Also, it lost in the color accuracy test. Others disagree with you as well...

Of course, your argument wasn't that the colors weren't accurate, it was that the colors aren't saturated.

Color accuracy can be fixed easily by messing with the gamut values, quite easy on Android.

And blue tint is one of those tech quirks.

Science still states that AMOLED is one of the most saturated screen techs out there.

 

[Dari]

Of course, your argument wasn't that the colors weren't accurate, it was that the colors aren't saturated.

Color accuracy can be fixed easily by messing with the gamut values, quite easy on Android.

And blue tint is one of those tech quirks.

Science still states that AMOLED is one of the most saturated screen techs out there.

I never once used the word "saturated" in my posts. I complained that the screen was neither bright nor vibrant. They looked stale to me. You can play semantics but you're still putting words into my mouth.

 

[NikolaeVarius]

I never once used the word "saturated" in my posts. I complained that the screen was neither bright nor vibrant. They looked stale to me. You can play semantics but you're still putting words into my mouth.

Brightness sure, Super AMOLED isn't the brightest and it handles less nits, but it handles higher brightness as it doesn't wash out and the blacks are true blacks because the light is off.

As for Vibrant. Vibrance is in fact essentially a synonym of saturation. In picture terms, increasing Vibrance would simply increase the saturation of the less saturated portions of the picture to match the saturation of the rest of the picture, while increasing saturation would linearly increase saturation of the entire picture.

With AMOLED, considering the entire picture is already extremely saturated, it makes very little sense to say that it needs to increase the vibrance because you're admitting that the picture is already extremely saturated, but you want to increase the saturation of the less saturated parts.

Scientific tests have shown that SAMOLED already has the highest color saturation across the entire spectrum by a very large amount over LCD.

Please think before you post.

 

[lothar]

There is clearly a blue-tint in the Galaxy Nexus in the brightness test.
In the Color Accuracy test the Galaxy Nexus looks good but wasn't the winner. Not sure how they were measuring it...
Outdoors, they all look awful...

But it wasn't the loser either. You're the one advocating for SLCD screens and it performed the worst(the HTC Rezound) of the bunch in these tests.

But Galaxy Nexus looks the least awful. It's still the best outdoors.

You go ahead and keep advocating that SLCD screens are the brighter and more vibrant than SAMOLED screens.
You're the only one in this thread who's arguing that. Your obvious troll is obvious to anyone that has more than 2 brain cells to rub together.

 

[Dari]

But it wasn't the loser either. You're the one advocating for SLCD screens and it performed the worst(the HTC Rezound) of the bunch in these tests.

But Galaxy Nexus looks the least awful. It's still the best outdoors.

You go ahead and keep advocating that SLCD screens are the brighter and more vibrant than SAMOLED screens.
You're the only one in this thread who's arguing that. Your obvious troll is obvious to anyone that has more than 2 brain cells to rub together.

I will keep advocating that and leave the insults to you. Clearly, your own pictures refuted what you and others claim that the SAMOLED+ has a better screen when you can see the blue tint in the brightness test. You can also see that it loses the color accuracy test.

 

[Dari]

Brightness sure, Super AMOLED isn't the brightest and it handles less nits, but it handles higher brightness as it doesn't wash out and the blacks are true blacks because the light is off.

As for Vibrant. Vibrance is in fact essentially a synonym of saturation. In picture terms, increasing Vibrance would simply increase the saturation of the less saturated portions of the picture to match the saturation of the rest of the picture, while increasing saturation would linearly increase saturation of the entire picture.

With AMOLED, considering the entire picture is already extremely saturated, it makes very little sense to say that it needs to increase the vibrance because you're admitting that the picture is already extremely saturated, but you want to increase the saturation of the less saturated parts.

Scientific tests have shown that SAMOLED already has the highest color saturation across the entire spectrum by a very large amount over LCD.

Please think before you post.

I will formulate my opinion based on what I see, not on what you claim science says (without any proof, I might add). And based on what I've seen, the SAMOLED+ is overrated. Lothar's pics bear that out.

 

[lothar]

I will keep advocating that and leave the insults to you. Clearly, your own pictures refuted what you and others claim that the SAMOLED+ has a better screen when you can see the blue tint in the brightness test. You can also see that it loses the color accuracy test.

Clearly you did not read the review.
The pictures also refuted your claim that SLCDs are superior to SAMOLED.
SLCD was the worst performing screen out of the entire screens tested.

 

[lothar]

I will formulate my opinion based on what I see, not on what you claim science says (without any proof, I might add). And based on what I've seen, the SAMOLED+ is overrated. Lothar's pics bear that out.

Verdict
 	LG Spectrum	Samsung Galaxy Nexus	HTC Rezound	LG Nitro HD
Brightness   	X	 X	 	 
Viewing Angles	 	 X	 	 
Color Accuracy	X	 	 	 
Sharpness	 	 	                  X	 
Outdoor Visibility       X	 	 
VERDICT	 Runner-up	 FIRST PLACE

Though it didn’t win every round, the Samsung Galaxy Nexus and its Super AMOLED display outperformed the competition overall. While the Galaxy Nexus’s 4.7-inch display isn’t as sharp as its smaller-screened competitors and the LG Spectrum’s True HD IPS display boasts slightly more vivid colors, the Nexus’s brightness, wider viewing angles, and suprerior outdoor visibility combine to give it the best HD screen on the market today.

Quoted for those that don't know how to read.

 

[Dari]

Verdict
 	LG Spectrum	Samsung Galaxy Nexus	HTC Rezound	LG Nitro HD
Brightness   	X	 X	 	 
Viewing Angles	 	 X	 	 
Color Accuracy	X	 	 	 
Sharpness	 	 	                  X	 
Outdoor Visibility       X	 	 
VERDICT	 Runner-up	 FIRST PLACE

Quoted for those that don't know how to read.

So, the color accuracy is inferior to LCDs. Thanks for proving my point. As for brightness, it has been agreed in this thread that SAMOLED+ is nowhere near as bright as LCDs. Also, based on YOUR pics, there is a bluish tint on the SAMOLED+ screens. I think this debate is over. I'm done here.

 

[lothar]

So, the color accuracy is inferior to LCDs. Thanks for proving my point. As for brightness, it has been agreed in this thread that SAMOLED+ is nowhere near as bright as LCDs. Also, based on YOUR pics, there is a bluish tint on the SAMOLED+ screens. I think this debate is over. I'm done here.

Agreed by whom?
I also see a yellowish tint on the HTC Rezound SLCD screen. Your point?

When you've lost a debate, stick your index fingers in your ears and sing "la-la-la, I can't hear you"

 

[zerocool84]

So, the color accuracy is inferior to LCDs. Thanks for proving my point. As for brightness, it has been agreed in this thread that SAMOLED+ is nowhere near as bright as LCDs. Also, based on YOUR pics, there is a bluish tint on the SAMOLED+ screens. I think this debate is over. I'm done here.

Only recently have LCD's in phones color accuracy been good and it's only certain phones, not across the board. It's been that most LCD's undersaturated as much as AMOLED oversaturated. Now they are getting better but just recently. Motorola has been the only smartphone company that has good color accuracy for the past couple years.