HS Student pushes to start caucasian club, meets resistance

[Ameesh]

Originally posted by: minendo

Originally posted by: Triumph
So they have a Black Student Union and an Asian Club, but they're not allowed to have a White Club? Can someone please make a compelling argument for why that is OK? Because in my simple mind, all I see is a double standard.

As soon as whites start congregating it is discrimination.

cause when whites congregate the kill black people or start world wars

 

[SackOfAllTrades]

Originally posted by: Ameesh

Originally posted by: SaltBoy
I've been waiting for WET (White Entertainment Television) to start up.

you ever watch cbs or nbc?

nbc is turning into Gay Entertainment Television.

cbs...who the fsck cares...

 

[Hoober]

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: yellowfiero
I remember a few years back the NAAWP, which is on the lines of this topic. I googled it and they still exist:

NAAWP.ORG

NAAWP BELIEFS

The white majority must have a national organization that defends it's rights, values, and heritage.

Does it shock you that we actually used the word WHITE?

In describing ourselves, we have been taught to avoid that word like the plague. If we dare even mention our "White Heritage" we could be called a racist or a bigot. However, if a minority talks about defending their civil rights, or preserving their heritage, or instilling racial pride in their children, no one would even give it a second thought. In fact, the proud minority is likely to be praised.

We don't condemn minorities - we want the best for them, both from a compassionate Christian-point-of-view, and because if they escape from the cycle of poverty, drugs, and crime - then we too will be better off.

At the same time, we know that:

*The welfare system of rewarding irresponsibility and illegitimacy only increases poverty instead of alleviating it.

*Lowering standards to accommodate poorly achieving minorities harms everyone.

*Discriminating against whites is as morally wrong as it is against blacks, Hispanics, Asians, or anyone else.

*Increased minority crime is destroying the social fabric of America.

*Forced integration and unrestrained immigration destroy schools, neighborhoods, cities, and ultimately nations.

*High, illegitimate, minority birthrates - if allowed to continue - will one day make them the majority and give them political control of our country - just as they now control major cities.

*Unless stopped now, massive illegal immigration from the Third World will surely make America more like the Third World rather than the nation of our forefathers.

We are not ashamed of the fact that we have a deep love for our heritage, and although we will always respect the rights of others, we are not ashamed to stand up for our rights and those of our children.

It is time to act; the NAAWP is the only organization unashamed of standing up for our heritage. The first task of the organization is to inform the American people of the truth on the vital issues facing us, and The NAAWP has made great strides toward this goal.

We urge you to join the NAAWP and subscribe to the beliefs that will enlighten and motivate millions of other Americans to the truth.

It's not illegal to be White......YET ! It only seems like it!

But what do you think is in store for your children's future? Will they have rights? Will they have a heritage to be proud of?

THINK ABOUT IT!

The National Association for the Advancement of White People is a non-violent civil rights organization demanding:

"Equal Rights for All
Special Privileges for None"

We care enough to make an effort for your rights - which are rapidly eroding, every day in America. Aren't you sick of reverse discrimination, busing, minority welfare rip offs, massive immigration, gun control, anti-white movies & TV shows? Do you want to see America become like Mexico or South Africa, or Uganda?

Impossible?

Examine nonwhite birth rates and immigration. America is heading toward becoming another third world nation... in the name of "diversity"!

Hello, did you fail History in HS or something?

When has the "white" people not oppressed minorities in America? I guess you forgot about the Separate but Equal years, and don't believe in Equal Pay for Equal Work.

Funny that the article mentions being proud of your heritage's history.

Yeah, be proud of your history of oppression.

Its more socially acceptable for minorities to have these types of clubs because OMG they are minorities. :Q

So are you one of those people that believes the minority should get the job because the company will then fill their quota for minorities on payroll? I believe organizations like these are discriminatory. What's amazing is how people are more than happy to go along with them out of guilt, but balk at the idea of a "white" club. Tell me, honestly, what's the difference between a Black Student Union and a White Student Union? One has minorities so therefore they should be allowed to band together?

 

[CommCR]

well what do you all think about affirmative action.... Reverse Racism!

 

[PlatinumGold]

Originally posted by: CommCR
well what do you all think about affirmative action.... Reverse Racism!

u r new here

 

[GoingUp]

I see no problem with them having the club so long as they are all inclusive.

 

[minendo]

Originally posted by: Ameesh
cause when whites congregate the kill black people or start world wars

Yes because when my friends and I go golfing we are actually secretly planning ways to off a few colored people.

 

[Hoober]

Originally posted by: minendo

Originally posted by: Ameesh
cause when whites congregate the kill black people or start world wars

Yes because when my friends and I go golfing we are actually secretly planning ways to off a few colored people.

You too, huh? And here I thought I was all alone.

 

[AU Tiger]

Originally posted by: CommCR
well what do you all think about affirmative action.... Reverse Racism!

Reverse Racism, thats funny. Racism is Racism.

 

[SackOfAllTrades]

Originally posted by: minendo

Originally posted by: Ameesh
cause when whites congregate the kill black people or start world wars

Yes because when my friends and I go golfing we are actually secretly planning ways to off a few colored people.

well, in the least...you're thinking about it.

 

[Gulzakar]

White people in the US are mutts. That is why people don't want to sponser. Though, there is still a double standard when your asian club has Koreans, Japanese, Chinese, Vietnamese, etc... so there really isn't much difference. The same could be said for blacks, though, more homoginized than either the white or asian US culture. In the end, it's just an excuse to get together.

I remember the asian clubs at my school... how can you have "pride" when there were several different asian cultures in one group who were vastly different in culture. Why not have the "korean club" or the "vietnamese club". Blacks suffer a wrose fate. It would seem that if your not stompin in your air force ones, your too white to be black. Who knows.


Most of these groups just cluster and jibber in whatever language they speak, then they go home. No biggie. They really aren't very productive.

 

[Hoober]

Originally posted by: Gulzakar
White people in the US are mutts. That is why people don't want to sponser. Though, there is still a double standard when your asian club has Koreans, Japanese, Chinese, Vietnamese, etc... so there really isn't much difference. The same could be said for blacks, though, more homoginized than either the white or asian US culture. In the end, it's just an excuse to get together.

I remember the asian clubs at my school... how can you have "pride" when there were several different asian cultures in one group who were vastly different in culture. Why not have the "korean club" or the "vietnamese club". Blacks suffer a wrose fate. It would seem that if your not stompin in your air force ones, your too white to be black. Who knows.


Most of these groups just cluster and jibber in whatever language they speak, then they go home. No biggie. They really aren't very productive.

So tell me, all of these minorities immigrated from various countries? Otherwise all you could have is the American Club.

 

[PlatinumGold]

Originally posted by: Gulzakar
White people in the US are mutts. That is why people don't want to sponser. Though, there is still a double standard when your asian club has Koreans, Japanese, Chinese, Vietnamese, etc... so there really isn't much difference. The same could be said for blacks, though, more homoginized than either the white or asian US culture. In the end, it's just an excuse to get together.

I remember the asian clubs at my school... how can you have "pride" when there were several different asian cultures in one group who were vastly different in culture. Why not have the "korean club" or the "vietnamese club". Blacks suffer a wrose fate. It would seem that if your not stompin in your air force ones, your too white to be black. Who knows.


Most of these groups just cluster and jibber in whatever language they speak, then they go home. No biggie. They really aren't very productive.

so what if they go some eastern europeans to start up a European Club, would that be acceptable?

it would still be primarily white.

 

[Muck]

Man, this is where I tread lightly. On one hand, every other race has their own club or organization. On the other hand, I feel a "caucasian club" has a racist tone to it. I guess because I came from a small town and most people who talked about this kind of thing ("why can't we have a white people club") used the N-word anyway.

It's just a bad idea I think. Minorities had to unite because this country was one big Caucasian Club for a few centuries. And this case in particular, I think it would be a bad idea because of the noose thing. That shows that the racial tones are there.

 

[Mani]

I think asians, blacks, etc. start clubs to share things they tend have in common (upbringing, values, culture, interests), not to be discriminatory and exclusionary.

I could see a polish-american student association or german-american S.A. making sense, but caucasian? I'm no fan of the NAACP but I think that is the reason why they think it smacks of racism - there doesn't seem to be any such benefit to a caucasian club.

 

[her209]

Originally posted by: Hoober
So are you one of those people that believes the minority should get the job because the company will then fill their quota for minorities on payroll? I believe organizations like these are discriminatory.

Yep, I'm one of those people. Its funny that in situations like affirmative action, you automatically assume that all "white" applicants are better qualified for the job than all of the other non-"white" applicants. Yea, lets get rid of affirmative action since discrimination didn't occur before affirmative action nor will it happen after abolishing it.

What's amazing is how people are more than happy to go along with them out of guilt, but balk at the idea of a "white" club. Tell me, honestly, what's the difference between a Black Student Union and a White Student Union? One has minorities so therefore they should be allowed to band together?

LOL, you are sadly mistaken. I wouldn't have any problem with a club that say was a Chess Club who had all white members. Also, these so called "Asian" and "Hispanic" clubs allow any person from any walk of life to join. When a club is labeled a "White" club, it has historical significance behind it. For example, if someone started a Hitler club that had nothing to do with Adolf Hitler, there would still be resistance against it.

 

[Mani]

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold

Originally posted by: Gulzakar
White people in the US are mutts. That is why people don't want to sponser. Though, there is still a double standard when your asian club has Koreans, Japanese, Chinese, Vietnamese, etc... so there really isn't much difference. The same could be said for blacks, though, more homoginized than either the white or asian US culture. In the end, it's just an excuse to get together.

I remember the asian clubs at my school... how can you have "pride" when there were several different asian cultures in one group who were vastly different in culture. Why not have the "korean club" or the "vietnamese club". Blacks suffer a wrose fate. It would seem that if your not stompin in your air force ones, your too white to be black. Who knows.


Most of these groups just cluster and jibber in whatever language they speak, then they go home. No biggie. They really aren't very productive.

so what if they go some eastern europeans to start up a European Club, would that be acceptable?

it would still be primarily white.

I truly don't think anyone would have a problem with an eastern-european club, not even the rabid NAACP. In fact, to my knowledge there are a number of European clubs in campuses around the nation.

 

[QueHuong]

There are two main problems with starting a white club. I can see why minorities would want to socialize with the other few people who share the same kind of background, but why would a majority want to start a club for the majority? The only reason that girl want to start a white club is because she's feeling a little exluded from the other clubs. Hmm...only if minorities could empathize with that, huh?

If I were to start my own Ohio Club at my college so me and those people who live in Ohio (i.e. EVERYONE) can socialize and promote Ohio cultural awareness, everyone will think it's ridiculous, and it absolutely is.

Second issue is starting a white club instantly brings back feelings of oppression. If whites do not have such a long history of discrimination and oppression, then other groups do not have much to complain about. Or if the other white group isn't geared towards maintaining white supremacy while oppressing the minority, then there would be less opposition to creating a white high school club. Truth is, whites do have a horrible history of racism and have a white group that terrorizes minorities. And then they wonder why everyone else is opposing the creation of another white club.


Also, I would like to emphasize what mani said:

"I think asians, blacks, etc. start clubs to share things they tend have in common (upbringing, values, culture, interests), not to be discriminatory and exclusionary."

That's all true. In the first paragraph, I inferred that those minorities club are for people who share certain common backgrounds to get together, and to promote cultural awareness. Do whites need to create a group because there are so few people who share and know about white culture? No, a lot of them are just doing to spite all the other groups. A white club is just pointless and offensive to many other people (like I said, because of the history of oppression and the KKK).

 

[PlatinumGold]

Originally posted by: MindStorm
There are two main problems with starting a white club. I can see why minorities would want to socialize with the other few people who share the same kind of background, but why would a majority want to start a club for the majority? The only reason that girl want to start a white club is because she's feeling a little exluded from the other clubs. Hmm...only if minorities could empathize with that, huh?

If I were to start my own Ohio Club at my college so me and the few others who live in Ohio can socialize and promote Ohio culture awareness, everyone will think it's ridiculous, and it is.

Second issue is starting a white club instantly brings back feelings of oppression. If whites do not have such a long history of discrimination and oppression, then other groups do not have much to complain about. Or if the other white group isn't geared towards maintaining white supremacy while oppressing the minority, then there would be less opposition to creating a white high school club. Truth is, whites do have a horrible history of racism and have a white group that terrorizes minorities. And then they wonder why everyone else is opposing the creation of another white club.

i like your ohio club example. you ohioans really are a breed of your own and the ohioans in NJ propably should start their own club.

 

[PlatinumGold]

Originally posted by: Mani
I'm no fan of the NAACP but I think that is the reason why they think it smacks of racism - there doesn't seem to be any such benefit to a caucasian club.

and yet, how many asian members do you see in the NAACP?? Here is a lie of the higherst magnitude, the NAA Colored P.

they don't mean colored. they have NO desire to protect the rights of minorities, only the rights of black people so i wish they would just stop lying about it.

 

[minendo]

Originally posted by: Mani
there doesn't seem to be any such benefit to a caucasian club.

Says who?

 

[Hoober]

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: Hoober
So are you one of those people that believes the minority should get the job because the company will then fill their quota for minorities on payroll? I believe organizations like these are discriminatory.

Yep, I'm one of those people. Its funny that in situations like affirmative action, you automatically assume that all "white" applicants are better qualified for the job than all of the other non-"white" applicants. Yea, lets get rid of affirmative action since discrimination didn't occur before affirmative action nor will it happen after abolishing it.

What's amazing is how people are more than happy to go along with them out of guilt, but balk at the idea of a "white" club. Tell me, honestly, what's the difference between a Black Student Union and a White Student Union? One has minorities so therefore they should be allowed to band together?

LOL, you are sadly mistaken. I wouldn't have any problem with a club that say was a Chess Club who had all white members. Also, these so called "Asian" and "Hispanic" clubs allow any person from any walk of life to join. When a club is labeled a "White" club, it has historical significance behind it. For example, if someone started a Hitler club that had nothing to do with Adolf Hitler, there would still be resistance against it.

Ok, but a "Hitler" club has many problems with it. We're not talking about a "white" club. This is a "Caucasian" club. Who cares if the KKK is made up of white anglos? It has nothing to do with the Caucasian club being formed.

As far as affirmitive action, I absolutely despise the idea that minority would be hired over a caucasian if their qualifications are exactly the same. That's discrimination.

 

[Feldenak]

I've always liked the idea of starting up the United Caucasion College Fund and seeing how many people balk at the idea.




/waits for Classy to show up and inform us of how racist and bigoted we are.

 

[Pepsi90919]

Originally posted by: pyonir

Originally posted by: aircooled

Originally posted by: SaltBoy
I've been waiting for WET (White Entertainment Television) to start up.

Already here, it's called FOX News

I thought it was NBC.

yeah, cuz al roker's white

 

[Mani]

Originally posted by: minendo

Originally posted by: Mani
there doesn't seem to be any such benefit to a caucasian club.

Says who?

Tell me, if there were a white club, can you count on people being there that will share your upbringing, interests, and culture that you wouldn't be able to meet in your day to day life?