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HP launches new desktop with AMD 380 GPU
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Looks like the R9 3xx series launch is definitely going to happen in June. The HP Envy and Envy Phoenix are expected to launch on June 10th. I expect the R9 380 with HBM to match the GTX 980 performance wise. Now all we need to see is the actual GPU reviews. My expectation is June 16th will be the embargo release date for reviews to go up for R9 390 and R9 380 series.
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S.H.O.D.A.N.
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If a box with a 380 inside is supposed to launch on the 10th, then surely reviews would have to be released before that point to retain any sort of relevance?
yeah it remains to be seen when exactly embargo reveal happens and when broad GPU availability in both OEM PCs and the AIB channel happens. We might get some clear info as to when these GPUs will launch on Wed May 6th at AMD Financial Analyst Day.
It is very unlikely they have a design win already without any major leaks. So many people would be involved, someone would spill the beans.
Or it is just a rebrand, without any testing and r&d by HP.
R9 380 EOM may be a rebrand, yet still r9 380 retail could be a new card.
Or it is just a rebrand, without any testing and r&d by HP.
R9 380 EOM may be a rebrand, yet still r9 380 retail could be a new card.
Plenty of beans have already spilled. It depends on which ones you believe. It ranges from being sub-par compared to Maxwell on performance/efficiency to smashing it out the park.
Nobody at AIBs or OEMs would put their name to a solid leak, it would be career over.
Nobody at AIBs or OEMs would put their name to a solid leak, it would be career over.
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One of the reasons why Apple went with AMD for the latest desktop parts in their computers is that AMD in the contrary to Nvidia is willing to be quiet about their upcoming lineup of GPUs, if the deadline collides with Apple.
Apple's WWDC is on 8th June. Get the bigger picture: Computex is from 1st June, WWDC 8th June, and new computers from HP with the new lineup also 10th june. Its not an accident.
Apple's WWDC is on 8th June. Get the bigger picture: Computex is from 1st June, WWDC 8th June, and new computers from HP with the new lineup also 10th june. Its not an accident.
exar333
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Being quiet about upcoming GPUs is not a smart move anyways. Lots of lost sales, as AMD has seen for the past few months. Nothing to see here IMHO.
Hopefully the performance is good though.
so R9 380 isn't a R9 290 rebadge?
I doubt HP would put a R9 290 rebadge into their PCs considering power, cooling, and sound requirements
I doubt HP would put a R9 290 rebadge into their PCs considering power, cooling, and sound requirements
Don't they advertise it with liquid cooling? If so, any card could work. We don't know yet if it's a new GPU or rebrand. Both is possible at this point.
RussianSensation
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Being quiet about upcoming GPUs is not a smart move anyways. Lots of lost sales, as AMD has seen for the past few months. Nothing to see here IMHO.
Hopefully the performance is good though.
Honestly, the same average joes that don't follow reviews of after-market cards, post-launch reviews and are brand attached, are the same ones who wouldn't read a technical forum such as ours to even learn about these leaks. I think someone who does follow the GPU industry closely has either already purchased a 970/980/Titan X or a heavily discounted 290 card, or is waiting for the new cards. Your typical BestBuy PC buyer is the type of chap who would be buying a 980 on June 16th because "he heard NV is the best / has class leading features and perf/watt" even if R9 390X beat the GTX980 by 30%. The average PC gamer doesn't follow the market like we do. Leaking performance data actually hurts AMD more because NV could devise a cost-cutting / GPU refreshing strategy that undermines the entire launch. Also, if someone knew that a $299-349 AMD card was as fast as a 290X but used 40% less power, had HDMI 2.0, revised UVD, etc. they might not want to buy an R9 290X for $280-300 and AMD would be left with a lot of unsold inventory.
Remember how 680 barely undercut 7970 by $50 and the entire momentum of 7970 was destroyed overnight. If NV had all the key data 2-3 months before launch of R9 300 series, they could take the wind out of AMD's sails. It's probably why we have rumours of GM200 6GB card coming soon because NV wants to purposely clamp down on the hype behind R9 390 series.
Remember how NV was rumoured to have 120,000 unsold GTX570 cards which forced them to delay the GTX660 by 2-3 months? Would it have been better for NV to leak 660 specs? I doubt it.The last time AMD almost executed with R9 290/290X. Price/perf was top notch. They just couldn't meet supply and their reference cooler launch strategy was an big mistake. However, if on day 1 we had a card like Sapphire Tri-X 290 for $399, and reviews were based on it, and the supply was not adversely affected by mining demand, I think 290/290X would have hit it out of the park back then. This time AMD has the chance to correct many of these mistakes.
In this case the choice of Card A vs. Card B doesn't tell us enough though. 980 can be the +$350 option and be faster than the 380 and be HP's higher-end offering and 380 could be the +$200 option.
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Pricing and Availability
The 21.5 and 23 inch HP Pavilion All-in-One PCs are expected to be available on June 28, 2015 in the United States at www.hpshopping.com and select retailers starting at $649.99 and $699.99 respectively.
The HP Pavilion, HP ENVY and HP ENVY Phoenix Towers are expected to be available in the United States on June 10, 2015 at www.hpshopping.com. With a starting price at $699.99 is the HP ENVY Tower and $899.99 is the HP ENVY Phoenix Tower. HP Pavilion Desktop Tower will also be available in select retailers on June 26, 2015 with a starting price at $449.99."
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Sounds like June 10, 2015 is the absolutely latest date for AMD to announce the cards. Shocking that 35 days before launch we don't have any benchmarks leaks.
Is it really that shocking?
I don't remember having more leaks before the 290X release then what we have now for the 390.
Maybe I'm just forgetting something
Guys, I don't think we can extrapolate anything from this in terms of performance. What we can say, however, is that this won't be Hawaii with the current reference cooler. I can't see HP bothering with that. So, new reference cooler semi-confirmed?
Is it really that shocking?
I don't remember having more leaks before the 290X release then what we have now for the 390.
Maybe I'm just forgetting something
Firestrike Extreme score was leaked two months before launch in August -
http://www.chiphell.com/thread-831155-1-1.html
The newer 290/x have reduced power consumption already. Runs almost 50w less than release. Hawaii is no longer hot and power hungry. That is just a generalization now from the original release cards. The 380 should be competitive in it's price bracket.
The 295x2 I purchased runs an average of 500w gaming load including an overclocked 5820k to 4.2ghz. That is just about 30w higher than my previous SLI 970 setup.
The 295x2 I purchased runs an average of 500w gaming load including an overclocked 5820k to 4.2ghz. That is just about 30w higher than my previous SLI 970 setup.
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Are you basing that off of your 295x2? Dual GPU on a single PCB parts tend to be better binned chips, less leakage etc. Not really comparable I'd say.
It's probably due to the fact that AMD have been putting out updated drivers for the Hawaii chip fairly regularly and the newer drivers are using the chip/power more efficiently.
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The main reason is OpenCL. AMD scores far better under OpenCL applications than nVidia does. There are many factors I am sure, cost included. But Apple has stated OpenCL performance is important to them.
The R9 380 is a renamed R9 285 with up to 4GB:
http://www.amd.com/en-us/products/graphics/desktop/oem#
http://www.amd.com/en-us/products/graphics/desktop/oem#
Well gg amd, hardly knew ya!
Tonga isn't necessarily bad but using what seems to be a 270 gcn1.0 and 260 gcn1.1 is just unbelievable. RIP amd 2015.
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