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ivwshane

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No, the Christians there are being persecuted and need the most protection. He's saying we should focus on protecting them over other groups because they are persecuted. Duh.



Idiots who can't read and comprehend what is actually said are the problem.

Oh so he was talking about Christians, so back to the original question and the point of this thread: how do you know who is a Christian?

Yeah idiots who can't read and comprehend are the problem, I agree! Welcome to the conversation, it only took you how many posts?
 

PokerGuy

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Oh so he was talking about Christians, so back to the original question and the point of this thread: how do you know who is a Christian?

How do you know anything about anyone? If gays are being persecuted in some country and you seek to help some of them, how do you know who is gay?

Yeah idiots who can't read and comprehend are the problem, I agree!

Good to see that you agree, because that's you.
 

HomerJS

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No, the Christians there are being persecuted and need the most protection. He's saying we should focus on protecting them over other groups because they are persecuted. Duh.



Idiots who can't read and comprehend what is actually said are the problem.

Considering more Muslims have been the victims of ISIS the Christians your statement makes even less sense. So Syrian families who have been terrorized need less help just because they happen to be Muslim? You can't be serious.
 

buckshot24

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How do you know? You don't for certain. That doesn't mean you can't make reasonable determinations.
 

ivwshane

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How do you know anything about anyone? If gays are being persecuted in some country and you seek to help some of them, how do you know who is gay?



Good to see that you agree, because that's you.


Uh what? Are you drunk? We certainly wouldn't test someone to see if they were gay now would we?

I hope you are drunk because your posts are getting dumber and dumber by the minute.
 

FerrelGeek

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ivwshane

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Well, if National Review has it right (ducks as all the lib's heads explode), they cited US Code http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/granule/US...DE-2011-title8-chap12-subchapII-partI-sec1158 that states that religion is indeed one of the questions to be taken into account.
http://www.nationalreview.com/corne...merican-except-federal-law-requires-it-andrew

Doesn't really matter if it's in there or not as it won't stop yet another lib circle-jerk. Please clean up the jizz when you're done, boys.

Is there a difference between Christians being persecuted and Muslims being persecuted by the same people?
Does the law say that only people of a certain religion can be granted asylum? Or does it say that someone is considered a refugee if they are unwilling to return home due to religious persecution? Do you understand the difference? How exactly does that for in with what the right has been calling for?

The problem with right wing talking points (and this is one) is that the mouth breathers don't or aren't critical of what's being fed to them.

Your links simply prove how stupid you and the Republicans are about understanding US law.
 

MongGrel

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Well, if National Review has it right (ducks as all the lib's heads explode), they cited US Code http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/granule/US...DE-2011-title8-chap12-subchapII-partI-sec1158 that states that religion is indeed one of the questions to be taken into account.
http://www.nationalreview.com/corne...merican-except-federal-law-requires-it-andrew

Doesn't really matter if it's in there or not as it won't stop yet another lib circle-jerk. Please clean up the jizz when you're done, boys.

The only heads I usually see explode around here are the ultra right wing types in my experience.

Other than that it is in your imagination.

Most people just look a bit amused and wonder what they are ranting about.
 

sandorski

No Lifer
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Clearly these dudes stated they prefer to bring in the Christian Syrians and not the Muslim Syrians. Somehow stating that they would use Criteria to do so, thus violating law, is misquoting these dudes. It's almost as if these dudes merely said they would just bring in Syrian Refugees...
 

Screech

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so just to be clear,

the argument is that right now we are allowing almost anyone in and that if we limit it to christians we will prevent someone who wishes to commit terrorism here from infiltrating the US?

So basically, we ask "are you christian or muslim" and all the terrorists who want to attack the US will say "oh, sorry, i guess we can't come in" and sadly return to raqqa?... as opposed to simply lying in response to such a question?

Isn't this a pretty obvious example of something that would obviously not work?
 

buckshot24

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so just to be clear,

the argument is that right now we are allowing almost anyone in and that if we limit it to christians we will prevent someone who wishes to commit terrorism here from infiltrating the US?

So basically, we ask "are you christian or muslim" and all the terrorists who want to attack the US will say "oh, sorry, i guess we can't come in" and sadly return to raqqa?... as opposed to simply lying in response to such a question?

Isn't this a pretty obvious example of something that would obviously not work?
Maybe ask them to eat a slim jim if they want to come in?
 

sandorski

No Lifer
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Maybe ask them to eat a slim jim if they want to come in?

Given that it is acceptable to most Muslims to eat Pork if it's the only thing available to them, I suspect this test would have no effect. Besides, does anyone really know what's in those things?
 

Grooveriding

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Ask if they believe in the Easter Bunny, Tooth Fairy and the Sasquatch. Answer is yes, they're definitely on board with believing fairy tales.
 
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It's just a couple of questions and then on the plane, right?

What?! It's not?!



"If a refugee is cleared to be considered by the US, the process for approval is lengthy - 18-24 months, said one senior administration official.

Refugees are admitted at about a 50% acceptance rate after being subjected to "the most rigorous screening of any traveller to the US," an official told reporters in a conference call.

That involves extensive in-person interviews about their experiences with conflict, as well as the collection of both biometric and biographic information that is cross-checked with the State Department, the Department of Homeland Security and in some cases, the Department of Defense."

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-34848248


"The sad truth is that the US's insistence on screening Syrian refugees carefully, and its almost paranoid aversion to admitting anyone whose family might have had any form of contact with any extremist group at any point, created a bottleneck that for years prevented nearly any Syrian refugee from coming to the US. The federal government has just, in 2015, started devoting enough resources to screening refugees who've fled Syria to start allowing them to come into the country in any numbers at all."

http://www.vox.com/explainers/2015/11/16/9745318/syrian-refugees-us-isis
 

Meghan54

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It would be the government promoting a religion. You're not so stupid that you don't realize that's against the Constitution, are you?


Obviously, you've not been reading his posts in other threads.

And watch out.....keep up that line of inquiry and you, too, might end up on his LIST!!!!! Horrors!
 

FerrelGeek

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I was only pointing out that federal law does indeed take religion into account. And yes, lib heads do explode around here, as do conservative heads. I don't hold to any particular political ideology, but I'll never be a full-on lib as that would mean I'd have to become an arrogant twat that is pathologically incapable of admitting that I could actually be not perfectly correct on all occasions. I freely admit my humanity, foibles and all. Libs should try it sometime; it's actually quite liberating to do so.

Our government has in fact refused asylum for Christians from Syria and Iraq, in spite of the fact that they are being butchered by ISIS.

It's not fear, xenophobia, hatred of brown people to acknowledge that there should be serious concern around our government letting in a group of people where ISIS has clearly stated that they are infiltrating that group as a means to wage their war on the west. Yes, I'm sure that some of that is just plain rhetoric, but no sane government should take that threat lightly if the genuinely value the safety and welfare of their citizens. My concern, not blind frothing fear, is that our government won't take appropriate action to guard the safety of its citizens.

Yes, Victorian pointed out the vetting process, but I have no faith in our government to properly carry out said process given the volume of refugees that want to come here.

See? No blind rage, hate, xenophobia, fear, etc. Just a rational concern that any circumspect, thinking person should have in this situation.

Is there a difference between Christians being persecuted and Muslims being persecuted by the same people?
Does the law say that only people of a certain religion can be granted asylum? Or does it say that someone is considered a refugee if they are unwilling to return home due to religious persecution? Do you understand the difference? How exactly does that for in with what the right has been calling for?

The problem with right wing talking points (and this is one) is that the mouth breathers don't or aren't critical of what's being fed to them.

Your links simply prove how stupid you and the Republicans are about understanding US law.

The only heads I usually see explode around here are the ultra right wing types in my experience.

Other than that it is in your imagination.

Most people just look a bit amused and wonder what they are ranting about.
 
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Jeb Bush and other Republican presidential candidates have said we need to limit admittance Syria refugees to Christians, no Muslims allowed.
http://www.rawstory.com/2015/11/jeb...d-refugee-status-in-response-to-paris-attack/
Lie #1. Jeb never said that no Muslims should be allowed and to admit only Christians.

Lie #2. No other Republican presidential candidates have said this either.

Reading comprehension fail.

Edit: I take back Lie #2 based on Cruz statement. Lie #1 still apllies.
 
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dank69

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Lie #1. Jeb never said that no Muslims should be allowed and to admit only Christians.

Lie #2. No other Republican presidential candidates have said this either.

Reading comprehension fail.

Edit: I take back Lie #2 based on Cruz statement. Lie #1 still apllies.
I'm glad you can admit the Cruz part because it shows you can logically infer what has been implied by their statements. Cruz didn't technically say "no Muslims should be allowed and to admit only Christians" either. The statements by both Bush and Cruz imply it though.
 

Sonikku

Lifer
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Jeb Bush and other Republican presidential candidates have said we need to limit admittance Syria refugees to Christians, no Muslims allowed.
http://www.rawstory.com/2015/11/jeb...d-refugee-status-in-response-to-paris-attack/

My first question how would the government administer a "Christian test"? Do you just ask are you a Christian and if they say yes, let them in? Do we have trials like the witches in Salem?
http://listverse.com/2012/07/27/10-tests-for-guilt-used-at-the-salem-witch-trials/

Sprinkle them with holy water and see if they burn?

So how do we do these tests?

Written test.

"Which would you find more appealing?"
A. Praise the name of our one true lord and savior Jesus Christ
B. Construct a detonator and strap a bomb to your chest for the glory of Admiral Ackbar

The test will be administered in our own spoken tongue because if you can't speak American, you don't belong in America. :colbert: