How will Subway pitchman Jared Fogle weather FBI investigation?

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preslove

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There is entirely too little information out there to actually have a handle on what's going on. It looks like the press only caught wind of this yesterday or very soon before that. It's going to take a while for even leaks to get out there. Jared may or may not have been involved, we don't know much of anything. Given the fact that this non-profit worked with children, it makes sense for them, even without extra evidence, to seize all those computers to investigate just how the organization was used to abuse these kids.

There could have been more people involved, including Jared, in the conspiracy to create CP, or it could have just been him, but it will take an investigation to find out.

This is pretty far away from last fall's press explosion over Cosby, because there had been quite a few lawsuits & allegations, and there were already over 20 victims who had publicly come forward with a consistent story. It was pretty obvious to me that Cosby was guilty, whereas I want more info on the Jared case before I make up my useless internet opinion.

I am in no way accusing Jared of anything, but it strikes me as strange that his attorney has stated that he is cooperating with the investigation, but has NOT stated that he is not guilty. That may be a by-product of the fact that this guy is not a criminal lawyer, but it's odd that he is not denying Fogle's guilt.

Jared hasn't been charged with anything, so there's nothing for him to declare himself not guilty of. Given the possibility that his employee was using the non-profit's equipment to create, store and transmit the CP, on top of the fact that the employee probably gained access to the victims through the organization, I'd think that "My client hasn't been charged with anything and is being fully cooperative with the investigation" is the best approach. Acting defensive in this scenario just makes him look guilty.
 

Ichinisan

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The TV is on at work and I can't hear anything, but it said this in the story description at the bottom of the screen: "Subway Drops Fogle"

Do they know something we don't?
 

waggy

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The TV is on at work and I can't hear anything, but it said this in the story description at the bottom of the screen: "Subway Drops Fogle"

Do they know something we don't?

nope not at all. they are a business who's spokesmen is linked to someone being investigated for child porn.

just as in this thread there are fucking idiots who take that huge leap and say "jarad is guilty of child porn!!!" when that so far is not what is happening.

so to be safe they drop him.

anyone with a IQ over 20 should have been able to figure out that.
 

preslove

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The TV is on at work and I can't hear anything, but it said this in the story description at the bottom of the screen: "Subway Drops Fogle"

Do they know something we don't?

Just look at all the posts assuming he's guilty, here. The dude is just a spokesperson, so just being associated with the case is enough to stop giving him practically free money. Given how little the press knows, and the fact that this was done right after the press reports (and not before), says that they saw the news and went "let's get as far away from this ASAP!"
 

88keys

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This kinda shit really irritates me. The man is being investigated and commenters everywhere are still presuming his guilt and he hasn't even been charged with anything.
To top it all off if the investigation yields nothing and/or he is later found not guilty; that part of the story would only make for a footnote in the media while his presumed guilt alone is enough for headlines.

So no matter what, he'll be remembered as a child pornographer for the rest of his public life..... People make me sick.
 

Mai72

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Even if he gets thru this investigation fine his image is going to take a beating.

Will he still have his job w/ Subway? Only time will tell I guess.


The Jared memes are starting.
 

Nashemon

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http://nypost.com/2015/07/07/home-of-subways-jared-raided-in-child-porn-probe/

I don't eat at Subway, but if I did, I would boycott them at least until more is released to the public.

I have eaten Subway at least once a week for the past 10 years. Well, did. I'm done with them. Abandoning someone during a horrible circumstance in their life over slanderous allegations shows that Subway has no backbone at all. At least places like Hobby Lobby and Chick-fil-a have my respect for standing by their beliefs.
 

Homerboy

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I have eaten Subway at least once a week for the past 10 years. Well, did. I'm done with them. Abandoning someone during a horrible circumstance in their life over slanderous allegations shows that Subway has no backbone at all. At least places like Hobby Lobby and Chick-fil-a have my respect for standing by their beliefs.

How did Subway not "stand by their beliefs"?
 

KeithTalent

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I'm going to have a tuna sub for dinner tonight.

KT
 

Nashemon

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How did Subway not "stand by their beliefs"?
I didn't say they didn't.

Perhaps the comparison wasn't clear. While I don't agree with Chick-fil-a's CEO's beliefs, I have more respect for them than Subway. Chick-fil-a didn't fire all their gay employees.
 

Oyeve

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I didn't say they didn't.

Perhaps the comparison wasn't clear. While I don't agree with Chick-fil-a's CEO's beliefs, I have more respect for them than Subway. Chick-fil-a didn't fire all their gay employees.

True. I love chick-fil-as sandwich and don't care about their stance on gays. Hell, my gay son goes there all the time!
 

OutHouse

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has NOT stated that he is not guilty.

humm, im not a attorney but i think it would be a bad idea for Jarrod's attorney to come out swinging saying that his client is not guilty of child porn when his client has not been arrested or even charged with ANYTHING.
 

Phoenix86

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humm, im not a attorney but i think it would be a bad idea for Jarrod's attorney to come out swinging saying that his client is not guilty of child porn when his client has not been arrested or even charged with ANYTHING.

I wondered about that myself. It would immediately turn into "Jared denies involvement with child porn" when he hasn't (and might never be) charged.

I think it's safe to assume the "we're 100% cooperating" type statement means just that. His employee got caught doing something illegal and he isn't involved. It's just his company wasn't large enough to warrant a data center/office so he housed everything in his house. Cops want the computers, here they are officers! I'm complying because I'm innocent.

The other possibility is he knows he's fucked and has capitulated, and communicated that to his lawyer.
 

CPA

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humm, im not a attorney but i think it would be a bad idea for Jarrod's attorney to come out swinging saying that his client is not guilty of child porn when his client has not been arrested or even charged with ANYTHING.

I was part of a jury once. The defendant took the 5th and didn't take the stand. During a lunch break, one of the other jurors stated "If you're not guilty, why are you taking the 5th". That mentality sickens me.
 
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humm, im not a attorney but i think it would be a bad idea for Jarrod's attorney to come out swinging saying that his client is not guilty of child porn when his client has not been arrested or even charged with ANYTHING.

It's been announced that he is a suspect. I would expect the lawyer to state that he did nothing wrong (unless he knows that not to be the case).
 

Phoenix86

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It's been announced that he is a suspect. I would expect the lawyer to state that he did nothing wrong (unless he knows that not to be the case).

Interesting, everything I had read yesterday didn't mention the word suspect. I guess that's been clarified and as most of us probably thought, he's involved.

Who was saying Jared wasn't involved again? :hmm:

The opposite argument from "my company is too small to have an office or data center" in this case is going to be "if you're storing child porn, you do it on computers you have physical access to."
 

preslove

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It's been announced that he is a suspect. I would expect the lawyer to state that he did nothing wrong (unless he knows that not to be the case).

Have a link? I'm not challenging what you're saying, I just haven't seen him called a suspect, yet.
 

TheGardener

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Seems to be another opening on The View. Maybe an employment opportunity for Jared, if he can stay out of jail.
 

Phoenix86

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Have a link? I'm not challenging what you're saying, I just haven't seen him called a suspect, yet.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/federal...ubways-jared-fogle-in-child-pornography-case/

ZIONSVILLE, Ind. -- A law enforcement source has confirmed to CBS News that Subway restaurant spokesman Jared Fogle is a suspect in a federal child pornography investigation.

edit: considering he's a suspect, the other guy's case, the computers being seized and his cooperation I'm leaning towards he knows he's fucked (tons of evidence on the computers) and is doing everything to comply to ease the punishment.
 
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Slew Foot

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so whos the guy who has to dig through every frame of terabytes of porn to see if any of them are minors?
 

waggy

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http://www.cbsnews.com/news/federal...ubways-jared-fogle-in-child-pornography-case/

ZIONSVILLE, Ind. -- A law enforcement source has confirmed to CBS News that Subway restaurant spokesman Jared Fogle is a suspect in a federal child pornography investigation.

edit: considering he's a suspect, the other guy's case, the computers being seized and his cooperation I'm leaning towards he knows he's fucked (tons of evidence on the computers) and is doing everything to comply to ease the punishment.

oh well then. yeah if he is a suspect and the the other guys involvment. but man the other guy is fucked.

Taylor is accused of secretly videotaping four children, ranging in age between nine and 16, on at least seven occasions total. In each case, the child who was allegedly videotaped was naked, according to a document filed in federal court on May 4. Investigators also allegedly found more than 400 videos of child pornography on computers and storage media recovered from Taylor's home office in his Indianapolis residence.


videotaping kids and having 400 videos. oh boy
 

LightRider

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:confused: Because some spokesman for a company may or may not have employed a criminal at one point?

Because they tried to make a whole thing about eating sandwiches is the way to lose weight. No other sandwich place was so dishonest to me.

This makes no sense.

Also, Blimpy's is bullshit.

Blimpy's is great! They add extra oil to their sandwiches for extra deliciousness. Subway never does that shit.